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  • bkrich83
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    Re: For those who are white-americans...

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    Amen, my friend. IMO, the NBA hasn't suffered so much from expansion as they have from high school mega stars who can fly from the free throw line and jam with three hands but can't knock down a consistent 15 foot jumper.

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    Very good point.
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    • bkrich83
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      2012 said:

      But the day you see black qbs starting on 20-30 teams is the day that tvs are being turned to something else in many homes.



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      WTF are you talking about?
      I'd argue that some of the biggest names in the NFL play a position other than QB and happen to be African American. Ray Lewis, Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, Marshall Faulk and the list can go on. These guys are more marketable than a Favre or Manning in my honest opinion. Yet I still don't see the ratings dropping year after year in the NFL. Go figure.

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      Very true. You look around at the kids today. No matter what color they are, I see a lot more kids wearing Mike Vick, Steve McNair jersey's etc. then I do Manning or Favre or Tom Brady. The TO's and Vick's of the world are a lot more marketable.

      People who like football will watch tbe NFL no matter who is playing. There has been a rather large influx of black QB's in the league in recent years, and NFL ratings have done nothing but skyrocket during that time.
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      • bkrich83
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        #153
        Re: For those who are white-americans...

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        Sully said:
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        2012 said:

        But the day you see black qbs starting on 20-30 teams is the day that tvs are being turned to something else in many homes.



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        WTF are you talking about?
        I'd argue that some of the biggest names in the NFL play a position other than QB and happen to be African American. Ray Lewis, Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, Marshall Faulk and the list can go on. These guys are more marketable than a Favre or Manning in my honest opinion. Yet I still don't see the ratings dropping year after year in the NFL. Go figure.

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        Very true. You look around at the kids today. No matter what color they are, I see a lot more kids wearing Mike Vick, Steve McNair jersey's etc. then I do Manning or Favre or Tom Brady. The TO's and Vick's of the world are a lot more marketable.

        People who like football will watch tbe NFL no matter who is playing. There has been a rather large influx of black QB's in the league in recent years, and NFL ratings have done nothing but skyrocket during that time.
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        • bkrich83
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          #154
          Re: For those who are white-americans...

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          Sully said:
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          2012 said:

          But the day you see black qbs starting on 20-30 teams is the day that tvs are being turned to something else in many homes.



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          WTF are you talking about?
          I'd argue that some of the biggest names in the NFL play a position other than QB and happen to be African American. Ray Lewis, Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, Marshall Faulk and the list can go on. These guys are more marketable than a Favre or Manning in my honest opinion. Yet I still don't see the ratings dropping year after year in the NFL. Go figure.

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          Very true. You look around at the kids today. No matter what color they are, I see a lot more kids wearing Mike Vick, Steve McNair jersey's etc. then I do Manning or Favre or Tom Brady. The TO's and Vick's of the world are a lot more marketable.

          People who like football will watch tbe NFL no matter who is playing. There has been a rather large influx of black QB's in the league in recent years, and NFL ratings have done nothing but skyrocket during that time.
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          • jmood88
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            #155
            Re: For those who are white-americans...

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            It doesnt really matter to me but it DOES matter to corporate america a good amount

            <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">why?

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            Because its alot easier to sell a cornfed white boy like Keith Van Horn then a tattooed thug like Kenyon Martin to white america

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            Not really, In the 80s Magic was a far more viable asset rather then Larry Bird who was too bland to be truly marketed. Most of the white players i've seen in the NBA are devoid of true personality.

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            Magic wasnt a tattoed thug either im talking about present day NBA

            <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">so K-Mart is a thug? Does having tatoos make you a thug?

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            Don't forget, you have to be black too. They have white guys with tattos but no one says anything about them being "thugs".
            Originally posted by Blzer
            Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

            If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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            • jmood88
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              #156
              Re: For those who are white-americans...

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              SoMiss2000 said:
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              Taur3asi3 said:
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              SportsmanTO said:
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              Taur3asi3 said:
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              SoMiss2000 said:
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              Taur3asi3 said:
              It doesnt really matter to me but it DOES matter to corporate america a good amount

              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">why?

              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

              Because its alot easier to sell a cornfed white boy like Keith Van Horn then a tattooed thug like Kenyon Martin to white america

              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

              Not really, In the 80s Magic was a far more viable asset rather then Larry Bird who was too bland to be truly marketed. Most of the white players i've seen in the NBA are devoid of true personality.

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              Magic wasnt a tattoed thug either im talking about present day NBA

              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">so K-Mart is a thug? Does having tatoos make you a thug?

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              Don't forget, you have to be black too. They have white guys with tattos but no one says anything about them being "thugs".
              Originally posted by Blzer
              Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

              If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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              • jmood88
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                #157
                Re: For those who are white-americans...

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                SoMiss2000 said:
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                Taur3asi3 said:
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                SportsmanTO said:
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                Taur3asi3 said:
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                SoMiss2000 said:
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                Taur3asi3 said:
                It doesnt really matter to me but it DOES matter to corporate america a good amount

                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">why?

                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                Because its alot easier to sell a cornfed white boy like Keith Van Horn then a tattooed thug like Kenyon Martin to white america

                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                Not really, In the 80s Magic was a far more viable asset rather then Larry Bird who was too bland to be truly marketed. Most of the white players i've seen in the NBA are devoid of true personality.

                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                Magic wasnt a tattoed thug either im talking about present day NBA

                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">so K-Mart is a thug? Does having tatoos make you a thug?

                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                Don't forget, you have to be black too. They have white guys with tattos but no one says anything about them being "thugs".
                Originally posted by Blzer
                Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                • jmood88
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                  #158
                  Re: For those who are white-americans...

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                  Sully said:
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                  jmood88 said:
                  Ok, and how long was it since he used to have those flagrant fouls? And how does it make him a thug?

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                  I never said K-Mart was a thug.
                  I just said that it's ridiculous to assume that all flagrant fouls happen because a player is excited.

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                  Cool.
                  Originally posted by Blzer
                  Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                  If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                  • jmood88
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                    • Jul 2003
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                    #159
                    Re: For those who are white-americans...

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                    Sully said:
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                    jmood88 said:
                    Ok, and how long was it since he used to have those flagrant fouls? And how does it make him a thug?

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                    I never said K-Mart was a thug.
                    I just said that it's ridiculous to assume that all flagrant fouls happen because a player is excited.

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                    Cool.
                    Originally posted by Blzer
                    Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                    If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                    • jmood88
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                      • Jul 2003
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                      #160
                      Re: For those who are white-americans...

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                      Sully said:
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                      jmood88 said:
                      Ok, and how long was it since he used to have those flagrant fouls? And how does it make him a thug?

                      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                      I never said K-Mart was a thug.
                      I just said that it's ridiculous to assume that all flagrant fouls happen because a player is excited.

                      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                      Cool.
                      Originally posted by Blzer
                      Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                      If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                      • jmood88
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                        • Jul 2003
                        • 34639

                        #161
                        Re: For those who are white-americans...

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                        bkrich83 said:
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                        jmood88 said:
                        Ok, and how long was it since he used to have those flagrant fouls? And how does it make him a thug?

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                        How does it make him a thug? Ummm. I don't know, clotheslining mutliple people on their way to the rim, is what probably does it. It has nothing to do with him being black. Bill Laimbeer had the same issues, hard fouls/flagrant fouls and he was considered a thug in the NBA, and he's about as white as you can be. I know it's tough for you to understand, but there was an NBA before the year 1999.

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                        When did I say anything about not having an nba or not knowing about old players? Bill Laimbeer tried to get into fights with everyone along with his flagrant fouls. Kenyon Martin hasn't done any of that the past few years either.
                        Originally posted by Blzer
                        Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                        If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                        • jmood88
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                          • Jul 2003
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                          #162
                          Re: For those who are white-americans...

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                          bkrich83 said:
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                          jmood88 said:
                          Ok, and how long was it since he used to have those flagrant fouls? And how does it make him a thug?

                          <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                          How does it make him a thug? Ummm. I don't know, clotheslining mutliple people on their way to the rim, is what probably does it. It has nothing to do with him being black. Bill Laimbeer had the same issues, hard fouls/flagrant fouls and he was considered a thug in the NBA, and he's about as white as you can be. I know it's tough for you to understand, but there was an NBA before the year 1999.

                          <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                          When did I say anything about not having an nba or not knowing about old players? Bill Laimbeer tried to get into fights with everyone along with his flagrant fouls. Kenyon Martin hasn't done any of that the past few years either.
                          Originally posted by Blzer
                          Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                          If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                          • jmood88
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                            #163
                            Re: For those who are white-americans...

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                            bkrich83 said:
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                            jmood88 said:
                            Ok, and how long was it since he used to have those flagrant fouls? And how does it make him a thug?

                            <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                            How does it make him a thug? Ummm. I don't know, clotheslining mutliple people on their way to the rim, is what probably does it. It has nothing to do with him being black. Bill Laimbeer had the same issues, hard fouls/flagrant fouls and he was considered a thug in the NBA, and he's about as white as you can be. I know it's tough for you to understand, but there was an NBA before the year 1999.

                            <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                            When did I say anything about not having an nba or not knowing about old players? Bill Laimbeer tried to get into fights with everyone along with his flagrant fouls. Kenyon Martin hasn't done any of that the past few years either.
                            Originally posted by Blzer
                            Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                            If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                            • bkrich83
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                              #164
                              Re: For those who are white-americans...

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                              jmood88 said:
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                              SoMiss2000 said:
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                              Taur3asi3 said:
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                              SportsmanTO said:
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                              Taur3asi3 said:
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                              SoMiss2000 said:
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                              Taur3asi3 said:
                              It doesnt really matter to me but it DOES matter to corporate america a good amount

                              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">why?

                              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                              Because its alot easier to sell a cornfed white boy like Keith Van Horn then a tattooed thug like Kenyon Martin to white america

                              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                              Not really, In the 80s Magic was a far more viable asset rather then Larry Bird who was too bland to be truly marketed. Most of the white players i've seen in the NBA are devoid of true personality.

                              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                              Magic wasnt a tattoed thug either im talking about present day NBA

                              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">so K-Mart is a thug? Does having tatoos make you a thug?

                              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                              Don't forget, you have to be black too. They have white guys with tattos but no one says anything about them being "thugs".

                              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                              Again, see Bill Laimbeer. You don't have to be black to be a thug.
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                              • bkrich83
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                                #165
                                Re: For those who are white-americans...

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                                jmood88 said:
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                                SoMiss2000 said:
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                                Taur3asi3 said:
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                                SportsmanTO said:
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                                Taur3asi3 said:
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                                SoMiss2000 said:
                                </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                                Taur3asi3 said:
                                It doesnt really matter to me but it DOES matter to corporate america a good amount

                                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">why?

                                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                                Because its alot easier to sell a cornfed white boy like Keith Van Horn then a tattooed thug like Kenyon Martin to white america

                                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                                Not really, In the 80s Magic was a far more viable asset rather then Larry Bird who was too bland to be truly marketed. Most of the white players i've seen in the NBA are devoid of true personality.

                                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                                Magic wasnt a tattoed thug either im talking about present day NBA

                                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">so K-Mart is a thug? Does having tatoos make you a thug?

                                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                                Don't forget, you have to be black too. They have white guys with tattos but no one says anything about them being "thugs".

                                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                                Again, see Bill Laimbeer. You don't have to be black to be a thug.
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