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  • Yeah...THAT Guy
    Once in a Lifetime Memory
    • Dec 2006
    • 17294

    #1276
    Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

    Originally posted by CMH
    It's been two years though. And he declined the same way Landry Fields and Shumpert did.

    I agree that Hardaway was the best second option the team had, but isn't that a problem?

    Grant apparently has all the skills Hardaway has but better. It's a move you make, I think.

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    He's not nearly the shooter Hardaway is, but he has better shot selection and he has legit all around skills. Jack of all trades, master of none type.


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    • ProfessaPackMan
      Bamma
      • Mar 2008
      • 63852

      #1277
      Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

      I don't think he's as bad as some of ya'll are making him out to be. Making it sound like he has no business being in the league haha
      #RespectTheCulture

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      • 23
        yellow
        • Sep 2002
        • 66469

        #1278
        Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

        Is it true Davud West wants to go to the Knicks?

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        • Yeah...THAT Guy
          Once in a Lifetime Memory
          • Dec 2006
          • 17294

          #1279
          2015 Offseason Thread

          Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
          I don't think he's as bad as some of ya'll are making him out to be. Making it sound like he has no business being in the league haha

          He deserves a place. But he's more of a bench player talent at the moment that happened to play starter's minutes because it's the Knicks. He's just the definition of one dimensional. I don't know his numbers off the top of my head, but I'm pretty sure he literally averages like 1 rebound and 1 assist per game and he's just about as bad as it gets in terms of defensive effort.

          I like to think at some point he'll start to care about more than just shooting because you could tell at Michigan that he has talent, but it hasn't happened for him yet.


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          • NYJets
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jul 2002
            • 18637

            #1280
            Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

            Yea basically every aspect of Hardaway's game besides scoring is about as bad as it can be. And his scoring regressed in year 2.

            Maybe being in a better situation will help his development, he's still got time. I hope it does, he seems like a good guy, and he plays with a lot of passion and excitement for the game. But to be able to get a first rounder for him at this point is still crazy to me, have to jump on that.
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            • Cyrus09
              Pro
              • Nov 2012
              • 599

              #1281
              Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

              Was his defensive potential not one thing everyone mentioned in scouting reports before he was drafted? My first thought was that the Knicks sold him low, but the internets reaction told me otherwise. But I didn't watch to many Knicks games of course.

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              • Hassan Darkside
                We Here
                • Sep 2003
                • 7561

                #1282
                Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                He has the potential to be a turnstile on defense. Maybe he'll reach that potential in Atlanta.
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                • NYJets
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 18637

                  #1283
                  Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                  Originally posted by Cyrus09
                  Was his defensive potential not one thing everyone mentioned in scouting reports before he was drafted? My first thought was that the Knicks sold him low, but the internets reaction told me otherwise. But I didn't watch to many Knicks games of course.
                  They sold low in the sense that his stock SHOULD be really down now, but for some reason the Hawks valued him more than anyone could expect.

                  I mean, strictly value wise, he was the 24th pick in what was considered a weak draft, and after 2 seasons in which if anything he's regressed, they turned him into the 19th pick in a stronger draft.
                  Originally posted by Jay Bilas
                  The question isn't whether UConn belongs with the elites, but over the last 20 years, whether the rest of the college basketball elite belongs with UConn

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                  • bigfnjoe96
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 11410

                    #1284
                    Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                    Originally posted by 23
                    Is it true Davud West wants to go to the Knicks?
                    Word is he's "very interested"

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                    • ojandpizza
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 29807

                      #1285
                      Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                      West would be great in the "triangle".. Hopefully they can sign a decent shooting guard.


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                      • CMH
                        Making you famous
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 26203

                        #1286
                        Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                        I'll take West if he doesn't go crazy and expects big money or years.
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                        • ProfessaPackMan
                          Bamma
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 63852

                          #1287
                          Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                          Sacramento News:

                          Kings decision-maker Vlade Divac won’t be bullied into trading away DeMarcus Cousins, but if ownership would get out of the way, his job would be a whole lot easier.

                          As news of the Lakers working on a deal with Sacramento became reported, with Kings head coach George Karl appearing to be pushing for a trade behind the scenes, it seemed as though pressure was being applied to Divac to make something happen.

                          But as it turned out, the agent for Cousins was the one behind it all — at ownership’s behest.

                          Sam Amick of USA Today:

                          So when [agent for DeMarcus Cousins Dan Fegan] tried to orchestrate a trade that would send Cousins to the Los Angeles Lakers in the days leading up to the draft – one that Kings owner Vivek Ranadive gave him permission to pursue when he made it clear that Cousins wanted out – it wouldn’t have shocked anyone if Divac decided to do the deal just to quiet this storm. Instead, he’s trying to fix a fractured situation on his terms.

                          When asked about the unhealthy dynamic between Karl and Cousins and the idea that they may be able to work it out, Divac pulled no punches and left all options open in terms of what happens next.

                          “I’ll be honest with you, how I think right now, I think they got the message yesterday,” he said. “So here I am, and if you’re on board, (you’re) more than welcome. If you’re not, I’ve got to go. I can’t wait. We do have everything except time. We have to go forward and try to make it a healthy environment and try to have a good team for next year.

                          This is where I remind you that the Kings paid three different head coaches last season, all because ownership simply couldn’t make up its mind.

                          The indecision in Sacramento is troubling, to say the least. The public stance was that they wouldn’t entertain offers for Cousins, when privately, ownership authorized his agent to shop around.

                          Divac might be capable of making solid decisions that could raise the franchise out of the muck its been mired in for the past nine seasons. But that’s only if he’s allowed to do his job, and ownership in Sacramento has yet to give us any faith at all that they’ll let that be the case.
                          #RespectTheCulture

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                          • TracerBullet
                            One Last Job
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 22119

                            #1288
                            Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                            Magic aren't picking up Ben Gordon's option.
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                            • jeebs9
                              Fear is the Unknown
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 47565

                              #1289
                              Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                              Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                              Sacramento News:
                              I don't like this owner one bit.

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                              • Majingir
                                Moderator
                                • Apr 2005
                                • 47508

                                #1290
                                Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                                Originally posted by jeebs9
                                I don't like this owner one bit.

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                                They should trade Divac instead lol. Worked out well last time for the team who gave him up.

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