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  • dieselboy
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    • Dec 2002
    • 18040

    #91
    Re: Allen Iverson

    Originally posted by asianflow
    Well it's hard to define what "great" is.

    But I would argue some of his teammates had great seasons.

    In 96 Stackhouse averaged 20.7 PPG and was 15th in the league.
    The same year Coleman averaged 18.1 PPG and 10.1 Reb.

    Both had all-star caliber years.
    In the 1996-97 season, Iverson shot 46% and had 6.2 assists per game, along with 22 points, off of 17 shots per game.

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    • VanCitySportsGuy
      NYG_Meth
      • Feb 2003
      • 9351

      #92
      Re: Allen Iverson

      Originally posted by dieselboy
      In the 1996-97 season, Iverson shot 46% and had 6.2 assists per game, along with 22 points, off of 17 shots per game.
      What's your point?

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      • VanCitySportsGuy
        NYG_Meth
        • Feb 2003
        • 9351

        #93
        Re: Allen Iverson

        Originally posted by dieselboy
        In the 1996-97 season, Iverson shot 46% and had 6.2 assists per game, along with 22 points, off of 17 shots per game.
        What's your point?

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        • 3rdAnswer
          Regular Cat Records®
          • Sep 2002
          • 10845

          #94
          Re: Allen Iverson

          Originally posted by dieselboy
          In the 1996-97 season, Iverson shot 46% and had 6.2 assists per game, along with 22 points, off of 17 shots per game.
          Also, when he was a rookie Jerry Stackhouse was on the squad, and in my opinion, Stack has never really proved he could be a first or second scoring option on a team.

          I think Iverson is hard to figure out, but all of the people that come to Philly wanting to help expect AI to do it all.

          Do you guys really think AI would jack up bad shots if he had worthy teammates?
          -Jay Illestrate, Emcee/Producer/Graphic Artist
          www.REGULARCATRECORDS.COM
          New York Giants - Duke Blue Devils - Charlotte Hornets - San Antonio Spurs

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          • 3rdAnswer
            Regular Cat Records®
            • Sep 2002
            • 10845

            #95
            Re: Allen Iverson

            Originally posted by dieselboy
            In the 1996-97 season, Iverson shot 46% and had 6.2 assists per game, along with 22 points, off of 17 shots per game.
            Also, when he was a rookie Jerry Stackhouse was on the squad, and in my opinion, Stack has never really proved he could be a first or second scoring option on a team.

            I think Iverson is hard to figure out, but all of the people that come to Philly wanting to help expect AI to do it all.

            Do you guys really think AI would jack up bad shots if he had worthy teammates?
            -Jay Illestrate, Emcee/Producer/Graphic Artist
            www.REGULARCATRECORDS.COM
            New York Giants - Duke Blue Devils - Charlotte Hornets - San Antonio Spurs

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            • dieselboy
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              • Dec 2002
              • 18040

              #96
              Re: Allen Iverson

              Originally posted by asianflow
              What's your point?
              The one season you brought up that he had "Stars around him", was the season where he shot the best, didn't take a lot of shots, and had a lot of assists. Coincidence?

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              • dieselboy
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                • Dec 2002
                • 18040

                #97
                Re: Allen Iverson

                Originally posted by asianflow
                What's your point?
                The one season you brought up that he had "Stars around him", was the season where he shot the best, didn't take a lot of shots, and had a lot of assists. Coincidence?

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                • Programmed2Kill
                  Banned
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 14644

                  #98
                  Re: Allen Iverson

                  Originally posted by 3rdAnswer
                  Do you guys really think AI would jack up bad shots if he had worthy teammates?

                  Yes.

                  Why? Because he's a scorer. Scorers are prone do jack up bad shots during a game.

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                  • Programmed2Kill
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 14644

                    #99
                    Re: Allen Iverson

                    Originally posted by 3rdAnswer
                    Do you guys really think AI would jack up bad shots if he had worthy teammates?

                    Yes.

                    Why? Because he's a scorer. Scorers are prone do jack up bad shots during a game.

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                    • 3rdAnswer
                      Regular Cat Records®
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 10845

                      #100
                      Re: Allen Iverson

                      Originally posted by Programmed2Kill
                      Yes.

                      Why? Because he's a scorer. Scorers are prone do jack up bad shots during a game.
                      Yeah he is a scorer but what about him getting 6,7 and 8+ assist in lots of games?
                      -Jay Illestrate, Emcee/Producer/Graphic Artist
                      www.REGULARCATRECORDS.COM
                      New York Giants - Duke Blue Devils - Charlotte Hornets - San Antonio Spurs

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                      • 3rdAnswer
                        Regular Cat Records®
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 10845

                        #101
                        Re: Allen Iverson

                        Originally posted by Programmed2Kill
                        Yes.

                        Why? Because he's a scorer. Scorers are prone do jack up bad shots during a game.
                        Yeah he is a scorer but what about him getting 6,7 and 8+ assist in lots of games?
                        -Jay Illestrate, Emcee/Producer/Graphic Artist
                        www.REGULARCATRECORDS.COM
                        New York Giants - Duke Blue Devils - Charlotte Hornets - San Antonio Spurs

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                        • Programmed2Kill
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 14644

                          #102
                          Re: Allen Iverson

                          Originally posted by 3rdAnswer
                          Yeah he is a scorer but what about him getting 6,7 and 8+ assist in lots of games?


                          He did the same thing his rookie year.

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                          • Programmed2Kill
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 14644

                            #103
                            Re: Allen Iverson

                            Originally posted by 3rdAnswer
                            Yeah he is a scorer but what about him getting 6,7 and 8+ assist in lots of games?


                            He did the same thing his rookie year.

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                            • NumberOneRB
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 1113

                              #104
                              Re: Allen Iverson

                              The fact of the matter is that when Iverson had talented supporting players around him in his earlier years, he shot a high FG percentage, took lesser shots, and had more assists. When the supporting cast was lacking, he shot a lower FG percentage on much more shots, with a lesser assists. That obviously tells you that he's had no substantial supporting cast in his later years. Look at what Kobe is doing right now without Shaq, he's shooting 40% from the field right now. Why you ask? Cause his supporting cast is lacking and that causes Kobe to take more shots per game, good or bad. The fact of the matter is that Iverson puts up tons of shots per game to make up for the fact that the rest of his team is passive on offense. Look at the game where Iverson scored 51, the rest of the team only scored 50 extra, and the Sixers lost 101 to something (can't remember). And don't tell me it's becasue he doesn't pass the ball, cause he's averaging over 7 assists per game this season. His assist totals really haven't been that bad over his career either. I believe he averages over 5 assists per game for his career, not bad at all considering the fact that most of his teammates over the years didn't know a basketball hoop from a philly cheese steak. Whether you love him or hate him, you gotta give him props for putting his body on the line every night of every season, most of the time towards a losing effort.

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                              • NumberOneRB
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 1113

                                #105
                                Re: Allen Iverson

                                The fact of the matter is that when Iverson had talented supporting players around him in his earlier years, he shot a high FG percentage, took lesser shots, and had more assists. When the supporting cast was lacking, he shot a lower FG percentage on much more shots, with a lesser assists. That obviously tells you that he's had no substantial supporting cast in his later years. Look at what Kobe is doing right now without Shaq, he's shooting 40% from the field right now. Why you ask? Cause his supporting cast is lacking and that causes Kobe to take more shots per game, good or bad. The fact of the matter is that Iverson puts up tons of shots per game to make up for the fact that the rest of his team is passive on offense. Look at the game where Iverson scored 51, the rest of the team only scored 50 extra, and the Sixers lost 101 to something (can't remember). And don't tell me it's becasue he doesn't pass the ball, cause he's averaging over 7 assists per game this season. His assist totals really haven't been that bad over his career either. I believe he averages over 5 assists per game for his career, not bad at all considering the fact that most of his teammates over the years didn't know a basketball hoop from a philly cheese steak. Whether you love him or hate him, you gotta give him props for putting his body on the line every night of every season, most of the time towards a losing effort.

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