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  • ProfessaPackMan
    Bamma
    • Mar 2008
    • 63852

    #316
    Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

    Originally posted by cima
    I just meant more $. Price of admission should go up if Russ is on the team.
    I hear you. Ticket prices are already high as it is(Most expensive in the league behind LA)and they’ve been trash for the last 20 years.
    #RespectTheCulture

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    • Majingir
      Moderator
      • Apr 2005
      • 47621

      #317
      Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

      Originally posted by cima
      I wonder what the market out there for DeMar DeRozan is? Can't imagine many are chopping at the bit to pay big money to a guy that doesn't shoot 3's. But who knows, he's still a talented player.

      Edit: List I was looking at didn't note he has a PO. I'm guessing he opts-in.
      I'm sure he'd love going to LA. Still has big Compton ties, and obviously idolized Kobe.

      If Lakers could deal Danny Green and Bradley and have the room to add DeRozan, that would be a nice option for them. DeRozan obviously isn't a true #1 option for a team, but if he becomes the #2 option on offense and has way more space on the floor, he'd be a dangerous player.

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      • cima
        Hall Of Fame
        • Sep 2004
        • 13478

        #318
        Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

        Originally posted by Majingir
        I'm sure he'd love going to LA. Still has big Compton ties, and obviously idolized Kobe.

        If Lakers could deal Danny Green and Bradley and have the room to add DeRozan, that would be a nice option for them. DeRozan obviously isn't a true #1 option for a team, but if he becomes the #2 option on offense and has way more space on the floor, he'd be a dangerous player.
        If he doesn't shoot 3's, I don't see how he fits with Bron and AD.

        Also, Pops doesn't do business with the Lakers so it won't happen.

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        • illwill10
          Hall Of Fame
          • Mar 2009
          • 19827

          #319
          Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

          I would like to see Beal on a contender. He doesn't get as much recognition being on a losing team. Plus Wizards have to plan for a rebuild. You don't know how Wall will return from injury and definitely see Bertans chasing the bag in Free Agency. I don't see Wizards making the playoffs year. So I rather get young talent and draft picks, I would take it. John Wall's contract is a tough one. But he is still just 28. If he can bounce back fast from Injury, his value could go up.

          Russell Westbrook isn't a player I would want. I like the player and his competitive drive. Outside of the stigma that he chases stats and plays at one speed. I don't think he is a player that makes others around him better and adds wins to teams. I dont see him and Harden as good fits since both are ball dominant guards who both play Hero Ball. At the wrong side of 30 and his play style, I think he only has 2-3 years of his prime left before injuries pile on and he starts to lose that athleticism. If i had to choose, I would rather have Chris Paul over RW. I feel that CP3 brings more to the table, consistency, and leadership.

          For Philly, I would like to keep Embiid and Simmons together. Everyone else is expendable. I would love to keep Thybulle. I feel if he can get more disciplined on defense and figure it out on Offense, he can be a solid start who can develop into a All NBA defender. I feel can eventually become one of those vets who you want in the playoffs. But, I feel he might have to get sacrificed to get rid of Al Horford. But, I'm all for moving Tobias, Shake Milton, and Josh Richardson and some picks for players for fit. I feel Ben and Joel needs someone to push and motivate them to play at their best. I still feel that if Ben is going to be the PG, then I think the team needs a Combo Guard who can create his own shot, secondary playmaker, and play off ball.

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          • J_Posse
            Greatness Personified
            • Jun 2005
            • 11255

            #320
            Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

            Originally posted by Majingir
            I'm sure he'd love going to LA. Still has big Compton ties, and obviously idolized Kobe.

            If Lakers could deal Danny Green and Bradley and have the room to add DeRozan, that would be a nice option for them. DeRozan obviously isn't a true #1 option for a team, but if he becomes the #2 option on offense and has way more space on the floor, he'd be a dangerous player.
            Originally posted by cima
            If he doesn't shoot 3's, I don't see how he fits with Bron and AD.

            Also, Pops doesn't do business with the Lakers so it won't happen.
            Right, his game & where he likes to operate from wouldn't mesh well with James & Davis.

            He'd be much better off back in Toronto or maybe Milwaukee, but the Bucks would have tough time matching salary or having assets the Spurs want.

            And like Cima said, Pop wouldn't do business with the Lakers unless it completely favored Spurs.


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            • illwill10
              Hall Of Fame
              • Mar 2009
              • 19827

              #321
              Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

              I definitely think Pop tries to trade DeRozan. The problem is that DeRozan doesn't "fit" in today's NBA especially if he isn't going to be a Number 1 on a team. Is a team a 'DeRozan' away from being a title contender?

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              • cima
                Hall Of Fame
                • Sep 2004
                • 13478

                #322
                Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

                DeRozan would be a nice get on a buyout but I don't see many takers for him at $27 million unless they get to shed worse contracts to acquire his (doubtful).

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                • ProfessaPackMan
                  Bamma
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 63852

                  #323
                  Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

                  Originally posted by illwill10
                  I would like to see Beal on a contender. He doesn't get as much recognition being on a losing team. Plus Wizards have to plan for a rebuild. You don't know how Wall will return from injury and definitely see Bertans chasing the bag in Free Agency. I don't see Wizards making the playoffs year. So I rather get young talent and draft picks, I would take it. John Wall's contract is a tough one. But he is still just 28. If he can bounce back fast from Injury, his value could go up.

                  Russell Westbrook isn't a player I would want. I like the player and his competitive drive. Outside of the stigma that he chases stats and plays at one speed. I don't think he is a player that makes others around him better and adds wins to teams. I dont see him and Harden as good fits since both are ball dominant guards who both play Hero Ball. At the wrong side of 30 and his play style, I think he only has 2-3 years of his prime left before injuries pile on and he starts to lose that athleticism. If i had to choose, I would rather have Chris Paul over RW. I feel that CP3 brings more to the table, consistency, and leadership.

                  For Philly, I would like to keep Embiid and Simmons together. Everyone else is expendable. I would love to keep Thybulle. I feel if he can get more disciplined on defense and figure it out on Offense, he can be a solid start who can develop into a All NBA defender. I feel can eventually become one of those vets who you want in the playoffs. But, I feel he might have to get sacrificed to get rid of Al Horford. But, I'm all for moving Tobias, Shake Milton, and Josh Richardson and some picks for players for fit. I feel Ben and Joel needs someone to push and motivate them to play at their best. I still feel that if Ben is going to be the PG, then I think the team needs a Combo Guard who can create his own shot, secondary playmaker, and play off ball.
                  Wall turned 30 last month.
                  #RespectTheCulture

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                  • illwill10
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 19827

                    #324
                    Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

                    Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                    Wall turned 30 last month.
                    My bad. I was looking for his contract status and that must have been his age when he signed his contract

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                    • jfsolo
                      Live Action, please?
                      • May 2003
                      • 12965

                      #325
                      Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

                      It's the reality of how the game is played now, but I feel sad that DeRozan is basically considered a "defective" wing because he's not a 3pt shooter.
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                      • illwill10
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 19827

                        #326
                        Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

                        Originally posted by jfsolo
                        It's the reality of how the game is played now, but I feel sad that DeRozan is basically considered a "defective" wing because he's not a 3pt shooter.
                        I agree. He's not a number one on a contending team. I think he can be a good Second option. But at this stage of his career, I think he's limited to being a second option. If he was an A level defender, that would make up for his lack of a 3pt shot. He can't really be a 3rd option. When I think of a 3rd option in today's NBA, I think of a Spot-Up/Catch & Shoot guy. I think he might be a good fit for Orlando

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                        • Majingir
                          Moderator
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 47621

                          #327
                          Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

                          DeRozan won't be a star 3pt shooter, but he could at least make some baskets from there.

                          Spurs stopped him from taking 3s, but he was a 31% shooter from 3 at the end of his Raptors career, averaging almost 4 attempts a game. Obviously not great numbers, but as a #2 option on offense, if he could develop his 3 game some more, he could be good.

                          He does draw lots of fouls as well, so it's not like he's not good. Not saying he'll make as big a difference as a Butler,PG,Embiid or anything like that, but he's still better than many starters out there.

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                          • The 24th Letter
                            ERA
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 39373

                            #328
                            Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

                            Derozan had a crazy year last year..

                            53% FG is just sick for a wing.

                            22.1 points 5.5 rebounds & 5.6 assists

                            6.6 FTA's a game at 84%

                            He needs to be in a motion offense though.
                            Last edited by The 24th Letter; 10-17-2020, 02:04 PM.

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                            • King_B_Mack
                              All Star
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 24450

                              #329
                              Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

                              I highly doubt New York wants to do this. But just for discussion purposes. Knicks fans, y’all down for this?

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                              • DieHardYankee26
                                BING BONG
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 10178

                                #330
                                Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

                                It doesn’t make sense for us to trade assets for CP3, I would love him on the team but only if they were just trying to dump his salary which I don’t think will happen. I’d love Melo back but I feel like he’s proven he’s worth something to a better team than us.
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