2023 Offseason Thread

[King_B_Mack]

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Yes and no?

Sure Tyus makes us a better team right now, but that doesn't mean much when we are looking at being trash this year.

Of course we could easily flip him at the trade deadline next season, and the Clippers return didn't offer that flexibility.

Feel free to slide him on over this way in chicago.


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[ggsimmonds]

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I’d rather have Tyus Jones than Marcus Smart.. damn man

I'll wait until we know more about the details of the trade, but my hot take is that I thought Memphis could get more in exchange for Tyus.

I really thought they'd wait until the trade deadline to move him. Let him hold the fort down while Ja is in timeout, and it basically be an audition for the rest of the league. And once the playoff picture is starting to shape up, trade him to shore up another area of weakness they have. Feel like Tyus' value would be higher at that point

[JazzMan]

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I’d rather have Tyus Jones than Marcus Smart.. damn man

[MacMahon] There had been a sense around the league that Tyus Jones, who had thrived as a backup and fill-in starter for Memphis, was no longer content in that role.

Makes sense, he gets the keys to the offense in Washington

[ggsimmonds]

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I’m assuming with his injuries lately he’ll look to lock in on a longer deal that’s maybe a bit cheaper? Didn’t see him leaving but maybe.

Seems like the odds are high that he declined his option to resign with the Bucks.

Makes sense, he gets the keys to the offense in Washington

Better to drive a hooptie than ride passenger in a Benz

[BleacherBum2310]

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the single worst move of the Brad Stevens era. they better have more moves because trading Smart for Porzingis is disgusting.

[JazzMan]

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Idk I feel like Smart for Porzingis and 2 1sts is robbery

[BleacherBum2310]

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Idk I feel like Smart for Porzingis and 2 1sts is robbery

the emotional aspect lol. I guess i gotta wait and see because i'm not sure what 2 picks in the 20s does for a contending team. but i'm not really a fan of it as of now. I'm just really confused as well.

[JazzMan]

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the emotional aspect lol. I guess i gotta wait and see because i'm not sure what 2 picks in the 20s does for a contending team. but i'm not really a fan of it as of now. I'm just really confused as well.

Oh for sure, Smart always seemed like one of those dudes that was just going to be a Boston lifer, honestly shocked they dealt him instead of Brogdon but I guess their hands were tied

[ggsimmonds]

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Idk I feel like Smart for Porzingis and 2 1sts is robbery

It is. I think that 2024 1st is a wildcard too if its the Warriors original pick. I don't know what to expect from them next season

[ojandpizza]

2023 Offseason Thread

Y’all know my thoughts on Smart, he’s a really good version of the player he is but having him being treated like he’s untouchable for the past few years has made him one of the, if not the, most overrated players in the league. Two first for him seems like a good haul even without Porzingis. Porzingis and two firsts for Smart is a much better trade than Brogdon for Porzingis straight up IMO.

What those picks actually mean for Boston who knows, but they can still be traded this off-season. So they have more assets than they had before this move unless somebody thought Smart could return a star.. Only thing “bad” about this trade would be the whole leadership, loyalty, blah blah aspect.. but it’s been my opinion that Marcus Smart hasn’t needed to have a primary leadership role on this team for some time now, and that “role” had him constantly trying to do way too much on the floor. Again, just my opinion.

I do still think Boston still needs a true point guard. Even if it’s not somebody you don’t expect to play 30+ minutes every night.

Tyus has been great for the Grizz, one of the most consistent guys in the league. If he really wanted a bigger role I guess they could have done worse than Smart. At the very least Smart can be Dillon Brooks for them but a better player overall. Will be a weird dynamic for him going from sorta that leader role to now playing with a bunch of young guys on a team that is clearly Ja’s team. Grizz are a happy go lucky group. Other than Adams they don’t really have guys on the team that feel like they take the game as serious as Smart does. Idk if that’s a good thing, or something that is just going to clash. Does Smart even want to be in Memphis? Wonder if he tries to force himself out.

Tyus might be that good middle ground pickup for Washington where maybe they won’t completely suck, adds a good vet to help steady their offense as they build with young guys. If Tyus wants a bigger role and is headed to Washington what does that mean for Chris Paul? And if LAC was concerned with Brogdon’s injury history again what does that say about their interest in Chris Paul? Weird dynamic going on there. Worst case scenario Jones is a trade chip for Washington. Teams really needing a PG should be willing to send decent assets for him. One of the few players in the league who can be a starting caliber PG and not give a damn about taking touches or scoring attempts from others. Scores when he needs to, runs the offense as well as anybody.

[jeebs9]

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I’d rather have Tyus Jones than Marcus Smart.. damn man

Hahahaha this is too funny

Unless those picks turn into championship players. I'm just not behind this trade. KP he's good player. But not a championship type of player. We still treating him like his pre Knicks days lol. Worst trade.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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I’m assuming with his injuries lately he’ll look to lock in on a longer deal that’s maybe a bit cheaper? Didn’t see him leaving but maybe.

Rumor around Milwaukee has been like 4 years $120-130 mil and I assume a player option to return to Milwaukee. I’d be fairly surprised if he left but stranger things have happened.


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[Yeah...THAT Guy]

2023 Offseason Thread

Idk I feel like Smart for Porzingis and 2 1sts is robbery

Feel like moving Smart out and creating more minutes for Derrick White alone is an upgrade and Porzingis is obviously a very significant upgrade over their current big men.

I’m pretty furious as a Bucks fan that Boston pulled this off lol.


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[jeebs9]

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Rumor around Milwaukee has been like 4 years $120-130 mil and I assume a player option to return to Milwaukee. I’d be fairly surprised if he left but stranger things have happened.


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Carlos Boozer deal comes to mind in this situation lol.

Feel like moving Smart out and creating more minutes for Derrick White alone is an upgrade and Porzingis is obviously a very significant upgrade over their current big men.

I’m pretty furious as a Bucks fan that Boston pulled this off lol.


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Wait you think Derrick White is better than Marcus Smart? KP is an upgrade to Al Horford and Robert Williams? [emoji102]

It's a change. If it's an upgrade, I guess we will find out. Celtics have enough shooters as it stands. KP isn't going to add anything on that end. Unless he's going to be rim protect and rebound like he did for the Knicks (before the injury). This is a steal.

By all accounts Derrick White had a great season. He's a really good player. But he's no Smart period.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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Carlos Boozer deal comes to mind in this situation lol.





Wait you think Derrick White is better than Marcus Smart? KP is an upgrade to Al Horford and Robert Williams? [emoji102]

It's a change. If it's an upgrade, I guess we will find out. Celtics have enough shooters as it stands. KP isn't going to add anything on that end. Unless he's going to be rim protect and rebound like he did for the Knicks (before the injury). This is a steal.

By all accounts Derrick White had a great season. He's a really good player. But he's no Smart period.

Absolutely yes. White, to me, offers the good Smart things without the bad Smart things and knows his place much better than Smart did.

Porzingis was excellent protecting the rim last season and obviously offers far more offense than any of the Celtics current bigs.

And to get multiple first round picks on top of it? It’s an incredible trade for the Celtics.


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