2023 Offseason Thread

[J_Posse]

Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

Maybe a hot take or some hyperbole, but if both Kuzma and Porzingas exercise their player option and enter free agency, would it be reasonable to argue that last season's Wizards offseason was one of the biggest blunders and instances of mismanagement in recent sports memory?

Wizards would be losing Beal, Porzingas, and Kuzma for what, some 2nd round picks? How do you enter into a rebuild without acquiring any kind of future assets. Its like the Wizards accidentally simulated a full year in nba 2k and forgot autosave was on

Even more, the reason why Tommy Sheppard should never see a GM job again. He set the team back at least three or four years with the Beal extension and if Porzingis doesn't exercise his player option.

Dumb decision after dumb decision, when they should hit the "reset" button when John's Achilles went to shot.

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[ggsimmonds]

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Even more, the reason why Tommy Sheppard should never see a GM job again. He set the team back at least three or four years with the Beal extension and if Porzingis doesn't exercise his player option.

Dumb decision after dumb decision, when they should hit the "reset" button when John's Achilles went to shot.

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I genuinely have no idea if/how often a situation like this happens where a team loses its top 3 players (all pretty much still in their prime) for so little as what the Wizards would be getting.

Yes, there has undoubtedly been more drama dumpster fires, but I can't think of another instance where talent out so drastically outweighed incoming assets because...hell I don't even know why. They were banking on having a magical run like the Heat just had maybe? And when they do finally decide to tear it all down, its a year too late for the most hyped prospect ever?

Wizards subreddit is having a breakdown. A lot of comments along the lines of preferring to keep Beal instead of such a paltry return in the trade. I don't agree with that, better to rip the bandaid off and get a clean start. But I am hard pressed to find an instance of poor GM performance that rivals what Sheppard has accomplished

[ProfessaPackMan]

2023 Offseason Thread

They exist, it’s just a matter of whether or not you actually want to keep looking for another example, especially if you’re talking about all major pro leagues.

Anyway, I think it should work out. KD is the most adaptable player(probably 2nd behind Lebron)in the league into any situation. Worked out in GS obviously and in the 20+ games KD, Kyrie and Harden were on the floor together, they were damn near unstoppable. Their issue was they couldn’t stay on the court together because of injuries and Kyrie missing home games the following year due to not getting the shot.

Obviously it’s going to take some buy in from Vogel and additional roster moves between July 1st and October from those 4 guys(really Booker and Ayton assuming they keep him)but if they can do that, they’ll be up there as a challenger to Denver in no time.

[georgiafan]

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I don't think it's fair to blame the past sins of the GM on to the new group. They are now picking a direction and going with it and appear to have a plan in place. With all the cap space that's opened up in future years they can pick up future 1st with that if need be.

[ggsimmonds]

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I don't think it's fair to blame the past sins of the GM on to the new group. They are now picking a direction and going with it and appear to have a plan in place. With all the cap space that's opened up in future years they can pick up future 1st with that if need be.

Oh I'm definitely not putting any blame on the new regime. They did right by pulling the plug. The previous regime left a mess that will take a while to sort out

[King_B_Mack]

Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

Dray officially opts out.

Shams Charania
@ShamsCharania
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Golden State Warriors four-time NBA champion Draymond Green is declining his $27.5 million player option for 2023-24 season and will enter unrestricted free agency, Klutch Sports CEO Rich Paul told
@TheAthletic

@Stadium
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Adrian Wojnarowski
@wojespn
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Klutch's Rich Paul to ESPN on Golden State's Draymond Green declining player option: "We will continue to talk to Golden State and explore all options," Paul said. It was expected Green would opt-out and now he can talk with Warriors, explore sign-and-trades and free agency.

[georgiafan]

Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

Seemed like a no brainer he would opt out and secure one last big multi year contract. Golden State needs him back, but he will be able to use several other teams as leverage. I bet he returns to them.

[Majingir]

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I laughed a little too hard at this[ATTACH]206388[/ATTACH]

Funny part, you could do a whole "rank KD teams" post after all this.

The Thunder with KD,Westbrook,Harden,Ibaka
VS
Warriors with KD,Curry,Thompson,Green
VS
Nets with KD,Kyrie,Harden
VS
Nets with KD,Kyrie,Simmons
VS
Suns with KD,Booker,Ayton,Paul
VS
Suns with KD,Booker,Beal,Ayton?

[dubcity]

Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

Funny part, you could do a whole "rank KD teams" post after all this.

The Thunder with KD,Westbrook,Harden,Ibaka
VS
Warriors with KD,Curry,Thompson,Green
VS
Nets with KD,Kyrie,Harden
VS
Nets with KD,Kyrie,Simmons
VS
Suns with KD,Booker,Ayton,Paul
VS
Suns with KD,Booker,Beal,Ayton?

Boy that's a tough one ... wait no it isn't lol.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Lol that Kyrie and Ben team shouldn’t be on that list at all, Maj.

[georgiafan]

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@YossiGozlan

Chris Paul’s $30.8M salary now looking likely to get fully guaranteed with the inclusion of Jordan Goodwin and Isaiah Todd.

His guarantee needs to be raised to $27M to facilitate the current trade. Otherwise, they’d have to dip into their $5M TPE to acquire Goodwin and Todd.

[J_Posse]

Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

Smart move by Phoenix to add more salary filler/bodies when they'll only have five players under contract.

Goodwin showed he can play NBA - level defense & could be a valuable backup PG.

Todd is still an intriguing prospect but needs more time to develop.

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[Yeah...THAT Guy]

Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

Interesting that Washington is giving their young guys away too. Guess they’re really trying to start over with a totally clean slate. I wonder if they’re angling to pick up more draft picks this year.


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[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

Feel like it’s more likely CP ends up staying in DC, which wouldn’t be a bad thing for them.

Because if you’re going to have a roster full of young players going into the season, you’re going to need some vets on the team, otherwise it’s looking like another Houston situation.

Plus, it doesn’t really help them to be outright bad(never helped any team if we’re being honest but that’s another topic).

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

Re: 2023 Offseason Thread

Feel like it’s more likely CP ends up staying in DC, which wouldn’t be a bad thing for them.

Because if you’re going to have a roster full of young players going into the season, you’re going to need some vets on the team, otherwise it’s looking like another Houston situation.

Plus, it doesn’t really help them to be outright bad(never helped any team if we’re being honest but that’s another topic).

If they’re guaranteeing the full salary anyways (which it sounds like they are), I’d probably just keep him for the year if he’s willing to cooperate. I do think he’d help them evaluate the rest of the roster in the very least.

Now if a team offers a first round pick for him or something, I probably move him, but I don’t see that happening and don’t think I’d bother trading him just for expirings when he’s basically an expiring too.


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