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[Money99]

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I didn't realize this. I must have forwarded through the prefight enough not to hear anyone say this was not a title fight due to Rubio landing at 161.8 pounds. So he forfeited $100,000 of his $450,000 purse to GGG.

That's correct. Kellerman asked his trainer why he wouldn't at least try to work that extra 2 pounds off instead of forfeiting 100K.
Garcia explained that Rubio had already sweated off 15 lbs over the previous 2 days just to get down to 162, so trying to shed the additional 2 would have made him even worse.

After I heard that, I knew Rubio didn't even try to prepare for this fight. He was going to take his 450K (now 350K) and walk.
His pathetic acting after the stoppage was horrendous too. Maybe Razzie worthy.

After that charade, I really hope that GGG's next opponent is an actual champion or someone who could give him a bit of work.
I really don't have much interest in him moving up to 168 to fight Ward. I'd prefer he fought Quillen or Cotto. Heck, even Pirog would be a decent bout.

[JayBee74]

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I really don't have much interest in him moving up to 168 to fight Ward. I'd prefer he fought Quillen or Cotto. Heck, even Pirog would be a decent bout.

Cotto wouldn't dare. As much as I would like to see GGG stay at 160 for the foreseeable future that leaves Quillen left at 160.

You want Pirog to come out of retirement? I'd rather see Pavlik unretire before him.

[Money99]

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Cotto wouldn't dare. As much as I would like to see GGG stay at 160 for the foreseeable future that leaves Quillen left at 160.

You want Pirog to come out of retirement? I'd rather see Pavlik unretire before him.

My bad and thank-you for pointing out Pirog's retirement. I had totally forgotten about that.

You're right though. There's only 1 or two fights left at 160. After Kid Chocolate, I think the only one left is Canelo (if he moves up). And I honestly don't think he will until GGG moves up to 168.

[steelcityjames]

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Ward is the ONLY big name fighter to come out and say he'd like to fight GGG....i think after Kid Chocolate, that might be his best and only option. i don't see Coto or Canelo taking on GGG anytime soon. GGG vs Ward? i would love to see it! it would be great for boxing. however, i think there's a good chance GGG destroys Ward like he's just another opponent. could be wrong, but Ward's inactivity lately could spell disaster for him if he steps in the ring vs GGG!

[SPRINGS03]

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^Ward vs GGG definitely needs to happen. I also love the idea of GGG fighting Chavez Jr. Although i'm sure he'll destroy chavez, i'm curious to see if he can knock him out with his iron chin and size advantage(plus i can't stand chavez jr's spoiled ***)

I think ward easily outclasses GGG honestly, and it won't be as competitive as some people would think, unless he got reeally rusty due to inactivity(he seriously needs to stop wasting his prime fighting legal battles.) GGG hasn't fought anyone close to wards level, and ward has fought some tough opponents beat them easily(carl froch anyone?) I still need to see GGG destroy a good opponent before i'm sold on him.

Main fight i'm hyped for that's actually happening is Bhop vs Kovalev, can't wait for that! That's a 50/50 60/40 fight at the most(i lean towards hopkins craftiness but if his age catches up to him finally, this will be a horrible fight for him to show it in)

[steelcityjames]

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^ Good points, SPRINGS. totally agree with you about Bhop vs Kovalev. i can't wait for this fight. cheering hard for Bhop, but it could definitely go either way.

[JayBee74]

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I think ward easily outclasses GGG honestly, and it won't be as competitive as some people would think, unless he got reeally rusty due to inactivity(he seriously needs to stop wasting his prime fighting legal battles.)

Don't know. You certainly can't give Ward any points for inactivity. If GGG could translate his power to a 168 level he could give Ward some trouble. Ward versus Stevenson at 168 would be interesting. We know Andre is not going to fight Kovalev or Stevenson at 175.

I still think B-Hop gets destroyed by Kovalev. Cunning and guile can take you so far. He's had 16 fights and ten years without a knockout, he'll be two months shy of 50, facing an iron chinned murderous puncher (to the body and head) who is a natural light heavyweight.

Sorry for repeating myself. I'm sure I've said this before. I would be stunned if Hopkins wins. Forget that he is only a 2-1 underdog.

[SPRINGS03]

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^Yeah, but power isn't everything. We've seen plenty of power punchers neutralized by great defense(which both hopkins and ward have). Power will always keep you in a fight, but it doesn't mean much if you can't land a clean shot. Even if GGG's power translates, i don't see it winning him the fight, unless he catches ward and KO's him. I'd be up for ward fighting stevenson or kovalev as well(stevenson needs to fight another big fight, seems like he's reluctant to fight a top guy right now)

The only problem with kovalev is that again, he hasn't been in there with anyone as crafty as hopkins. However, he's definitely faster and stronger than hopkins, which to me makes this a close fight.

[JayBee74]

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^Yeah, but power isn't everything. We've seen plenty of power punchers neutralized by great defense(which both hopkins and ward have). Power will always keep you in a fight, but it doesn't mean much if you can't land a clean shot. Even if GGG's power translates, i don't see it winning him the fight, unless he catches ward and KO's him. I'd be up for ward fighting stevenson or kovalev as well(stevenson needs to fight another big fight, seems like he's reluctant to fight a top guy right now)

The only problem with kovalev is that again, he hasn't been in there with anyone as crafty as hopkins. However, he's definitely faster and stronger than hopkins, which to me makes this a close fight.

That's true if you make GGG all about his power, but he's one of the most efficient knockout artists I've ever seen. He sets you up and puts you down. GGG Versus Ward is a lot more than Slugger VS Boxer. Bottomline: Both would be facing their toughest opponent if they fought tomorrow.

Hopkins has guts, I'll give him that.

[pk500]

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Ward is the ONLY big name fighter to come out and say he'd like to fight GGG....i think after Kid Chocolate, that might be his best and only option. i don't see Coto or Canelo taking on GGG anytime soon. GGG vs Ward? i would love to see it! it would be great for boxing. however, i think there's a good chance GGG destroys Ward like he's just another opponent. could be wrong, but Ward's inactivity lately could spell disaster for him if he steps in the ring vs GGG!

Ward shouldn't call out ANYONE. Legal wrangling or not, the guy is doing a magnificent job ruining his career by staying so inactive the last two years.

SOG was a budding superstar after winning the Super 6. Now he induces little but yawns even from the most hardcore fans because of his dull, efficient style and his inactivity.

[pk500]

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Hopkins beats Kovalev in a close, possibly split, decision. His experience and guile will be decisive. He has forgotten tricks that Kovalev has never seen.

[SPRINGS03]

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That's true if you make GGG all about his power, but he's one of the most efficient knockout artists I've ever seen. He sets you up and puts you down. GGG Versus Ward is a lot more than Slugger VS Boxer. Bottomline: Both would be facing their toughest opponent if they fought tomorrow.

Hopkins has guts, I'll give him that.

I don't think he's all power, but it is his most potent attribute. And i've watched him, i definitely wouldn't say he's a brawler, he doesn't waste punches, he's more of a boxer puncher if anything. But there's no way he'll outbox ward, i think most would agree that ward is technically better, but GGG's power is greater, which is why i say he would have to knock him out to beat him. I'd be shocked if he beat him by decision. Most definitely the toughest opponent for either of them.

Also, isn't ward's legal battles over some kind of contract? Sad thing is, i remember somebody saying if he would of just kept fighting his contract would of been over at this point and he could sign something different. Such a waste of his prime.

[JayBee74]

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Hopkins beats Kovalev in a close, possibly split, decision. His experience and guile will be decisive. He has forgotten tricks that Kovalev has never seen.

I have a feeling Bernard will forget his name after this fight. Yeah he knows some tricks but he's never come close to fighting someone as lethal as this guy. Trinidad and Pavlik were the most power laden boxers he fought and his victory over Trinidad was truly impressive but it was against a natural 147 pound heavy hitter. Pavlik went up 10 pounds and was probably about 60% for that fight.

Still, he was brilliant against Trinidad, but that was 13 years ago!!


Pic is a little small. Against Agnew, Kovalez finds himself throwing a left cross out of a southpaw position, while his left foot is back and up in the air. Despite the awkward position and non-generation of power from the legs he knocks Agnew down. (Credit to Roy Jones for bringing much of these dynamics to my attention)

The final knockout punch is a LEFT JAB to the body!!

The guy is just too strong.

[JayBee74]

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I am surprised (but pleased) that Hopkins-Kovalez is on regular HBO. Hopkins is apparently getting $2 million to Kolalez's $1 million. For comparison's sake that's twice what B-Hop got for his PPV bout with Chad Dawson.

GGG has signed to fight Martin Murray at Monte Carlo February 21. Another exhibition for Golovkin.

[allBthere]

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Nov 15th Live

Made this video going back to my film roots.

Denton Daley is fighting Youri Kalenga for the WBA cruiserweight title.

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hum...0410&cat=boxer

That's Kalenga's boxrec, the rest of the card can be seen there too.

I'll be producing/directing this show once again "Championship Boxing"

It will be seen locally - Toronto HD ch 510
Mississauga, Brampton, Orangeville, and Ottawa

Depending on what happens, it will be exciting for the future. The winner is guaranteed from what I understand to fight Denis Lebedev - Huck, Drozd and Hernandez would also be on the horizon.