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As an Aussie I've seen a fair bit of Talipeau and did not expect him to get destroyed like that. Hopefully he can bounce back. I'm quietly confident Danny Geale can stun the world on Sunday. He has a lot of heart and great boxing skills. I'm confident he can take Golockoknto places he hasn't been before. Saying that if I was a betting man I would take Golovkin 10 out of 10Comment
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just saw the replay of canelo vs lara last night; thought lara won 7-5. but some of the rounds were close so i could see a draw or even 7-5 canelo.
my problem is i just dont see how anyone watching the fight could have scored the fight 9-3 as 1 of the judges did. 1 could argue that lara won the 1st 3rds of the fight. i think too often fighters get penalized for the style/gameplan they attempt to execute.
seems like 1 of the judges was less interested in watching the fight and more frustrated that he wasnt getting fight maybe he wanted to see.
its just disappointing these score cards sometimes...Through Holy Union God Lives Inside For Everyone
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Money. Thats why. ESPN and NBC have recently tried to put a few good free cards on and they havent rated well enough to make a profit.Anyone catch HBO2's showcase yesterday afternoon?
Gilberto Ramirez Sanchez vs Junior Talipeau.
Sanchez completely blew-out Talipeau. I don't know anything about either fighter, but Sanchez looks like a really good prospect. He annihilated Talipeau who had never been stopped.
He put together some really crisp combo's and had some terrific accuracy when head-hunting - especially his uppercuts.
Amateur stand-out Zou Shiming then put on a clinic vs Luis De la Rosa.
De la Rosa had tremendous heart, fighting on with a bad cut over his left eye. He kept wading in and attempting to trade shots.
Shiming showed some impressive skills and the last 10 seconds of the fight was an all-out trade fest.
Doesn't look like Shiming has much power, but you can see his amateur pedigree.
He won the vacant WBO in only his 5th fight.
All in all, not a bad pair of fights on HBO.
As a side note, after watching this card, I couldn't help but wonder why more of these types of fights aren't on free TV.
I loved ABC's wide world of sports program as a kid.
My two sons (11 and 7) actually watched this fight with me and they're both interested in staying up for the GGG vs Geale fight next weekend. I hope they can stay awake for the whole thing.
I'd love to start a tradition of watching some big fights with my boys.
On a completely other note, I see you have two sons and you allow them to watch boxing. I'm a huge combat sports fan and just had a newborn son. how old were they when you first started letting them watch boxing?Comment
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Yeah, Stiverne-Arreola was the highest rated ESPN in fight in years, but you have to wonder if ESPN salivates over the bottom line.
In the 70's the only LIVE ABC broadcasts of an Ali fight that I can remember was his bout with Jimmy Young in '75 or '76 and his fight with Ron Lyle. The Lyle fight was billed as the first $1 million "home television" fight.
Cosell's famous "Down Goes Frazier" line probably wasn't heard by a lot of folks as it happened because legendary Don Dunphy did the close circuit call.
Believe it or not I think CBS carried Ali's first bout with Spinks, but I can't verify it.Comment
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Probably in the past year.
I'll be the first to admit that I'm over protective of my kids and might go overboard with certain content.
I think it really depends on the kid.
My boys seem to be pretty sensitive. But (and maybe I'm REALLY off on this), for some reason, I don't mind them watching combat sports as compared to violent movies.
Seeing as it's controlled violence with rules and sportsmanship, I think it's different than watching Jason Stratham put 14 guys in the hospital.
(I didn't really help you with your question did I, haha.)Comment
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Haha, my wife's the same way.
In that way, I'm a huge hypocrite. I don't want my kids playing contact sports due to concussions concerns. The youngest one plays hockey right now, but it's all non-contact at this point.
As soon as he gets old enough to play in contact divisions, I'll pull him.
But at the same time, if my kids asked to learn boxing, I'd be all over it.
I love the sport and what it embodies. I think it's great for the discipline, confidence and physical conditioning it can offer.
I'm not crazy about seeing them get their bell rung, but I'd rather they get hit with a punch that they will most likely see coming, than get steamrolled into the boards from behind by some punk.
But all of that is moot, as I don't think either of my boys will ever want to learn to box (or MMA).
Now, my 1YO daughter on the other hand... Hahaha!Comment
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I was allowed to watch ANYTHING growing up. I saw Karate Kid at 5 or 6 years old and started taking TaeKwonDo almost immediately after that. I also watched boxing regularly growing up too, but never really wanted to do it until about 15, but even then it's such a big commitment and most gyms don't let you fight until you've been doing it quite a while so it never stuck, same with my buddy who took lessons in a nearby town.
I would say I was almost more influenced to want to try or do something from film over real sports. It's movie-magic!
But at the same time, having grounded parents, being raised correctly and being taught respect means movie violence had no impact, same with videogames (which I played since I was 6 or 7 years old as well)
If I have a son, I would prefer Martial-arts or MMA, over boxing for them because you get hit much more OFTEN in boxing - although boxing is #1 in a street fight or in danger in my opinion, so in that respect I'd like him to be able to handle himself in a really bad situation if need be. Above all though, learning at a young age would prevent injury and get him used to a level of contact, but also control and discipline.
Def not an easy answer for anyone though.Liquor in the front, poker in the rear.Comment
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I'm reading "The Triumph and Tragedy of Riddick Bowe" right now.
The writing is atrocious. There are tonnes of grammatical errors, not to mention really poor paragraph structure and a lot of repetition.
Eg "Riddick Bowe was a silver medalist. Riddick Bowe is big. Riddick Bowe likes kittens".
That's a typical sentence in this book.
Saying that, some of the information is really interesting. There's evidence/rumors/innuendo from both sides of the argument as to why he never fought Lennox Lewis.
Bowe's side said it was because he signed a lopsided deal with his promoter to give 33% of his purse over a 3-fight set (this included his title fight with Evander).
His next fight was supposed to be against Lennox, but since he didn't want to give up 1/3rd of his purse, he scoffed.
They offered Lennox a 90/10 split of a $30M purse. Lennox's camp balked (and rightfully so).
But other insiders said that Bowe, his manager Rock Newman and trainer Eddie Futch wanted no part of Lennox.
There's information that backs-up both claims, but in my opinion, I think he was scared to fight Lennox - at least right away. Who wants to win the belt and then get in the ring with the man who obliterated Razor Ruddock? Ruddock was heavily ducked by a lot of top tier heavyweights (Evander avoided him like the plague).
I'm about half-way through and at the part where he tossed the WBC strap in the trash.
Despite the poor writing, it's been a good book so far, if only for the info it's dishing out.Comment
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Very good points. MMA would mean a lot less blows to the head.If I have a son, I would prefer Martial-arts or MMA, over boxing for them because you get hit much more OFTEN in boxing - although boxing is #1 in a street fight or in danger in my opinion, so in that respect I'd like him to be able to handle himself in a really bad situation if need be. Above all though, learning at a young age would prevent injury and get him used to a level of contact, but also control and discipline.
But I think you're right that in a street fight, especially against a non-fighter, boxing would take care of most problems.
Bas Rutten once said that on the street, boxing and wrestling rule. That's all he used when bouncing.
Sort of off-topic, but I knew a kid in HS that got picked on quite a bit by a group of bullies.
This kid was a really nice guy, very affable and friendly and everyone liked him.
But this group of bullies gave him a rough ride knowing he'd never fight back. He was also very small for his age.
When word got out he was an easy target, his two younger brothers (who were of equal size and personality) began to get picked on by others.
In a way, the older brother had carved a negative path that affected both his younger siblings.
Their father finally had enough of his kids getting picked on so he brought them to the local boxing club.
3 months later, the older boy had laid-out one of his tormentors. He tried telling him to leave him alone, but when the bully - predictably - didn't let up, the former weakling threw a deadly 3-punch combination that flattened the bully.
In typical form, the bullies left him alone after that day.
Then his younger brothers did the same. Soon, the three bro's got a reputation as someone you didn't want to mess with.
I don't condone fighting - I think there's almost always a peaceful resolution.
But I recognize that there are times when talking time is over and actions are needed.
What's pathetic is that these 3 bullies continued to pick on smaller, weaker targets.
The one bully in particular probably got his butt kicked a dozen times before he realized he was more smoke and mirrors than fire.
What really hurt his trade was that despite being a large kid at 14, he didn't grow another inch the rest of his life. So by the time he was a Junior, he was one of the smallest kids in his grade. Sad that some kids have to learn the hard way.Comment
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I wonder if the wars he had with Tyson took something out of him?
I've read from more than one 'source' that Evander avoided him like the plague. I don't necessarily blame him.
Speaking of which, Evander stopped an injunction against the WBC forcing him to fight Ruddock instead of Bowe.
The feeling was, because Evander had sparred and beaten on Bowe in the past, he was the easier fight.
Evander even admitted that Bowe would gas-out after a few rounds of hard sparring.
But the Bowe that showed up in their first fight was in a lot better shape and had improved greatly since sparring with Holyfield.
Evander said as much afterward.Comment
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So now that we know S-Mart isn't going to retire, I was thinking he should go back to 154.
Fight a contender then go after Canelo.
I think his best years are behind him, but seeing as he refuses to quit, I'd love to see him fight Alvarez.
I think he can still compete at 160, but not against some of the monsters up there.
Wasn't it reported that Martinez walks around at 165? I know that a lot of his fights, he weighs in at around 158. By fight night, he's probably in the mid 160's while his opponents are over 170.
I think he could stretch his career a little by moving down in weight.Comment
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