Sway And Pray. Let's Talk About This.

[GameplayDevUFC]

Re: Blocking and moving your head at the same time

Controls are the biggest thing preventing any exploration on this.

RT + right stick is currently TD/Clinch defense.

[Serengeti1]

Re: Blocking and moving your head at the same time

Controls are the biggest thing preventing any exploration on this.

RT + right stick is currently TD/Clinch defense.

Not sure what you mean?

[Nugget7211]

Re: Blocking and moving your head at the same time

Not sure what you mean?

Threads were merged, he's talking about being able to move your head and block at the same time.

[Morgan Monkman]

Re: Sway And Pray. Let's Talk About This.

why not just have blocking of clinch and takedowns tied to holding back and r2? that way you can still sway and block but are still vulnerable to takedowns while saying left right or forward except backwards which makes sense.

[johnmangala]

Re: Blocking and moving your head at the same time

Controls are the biggest thing preventing any exploration on this.

RT + right stick is currently TD/Clinch defense.

Can't defending TDs/clinch be one of the signature modifiers + RS? This would leave (L2+)R2+RS for head movement and blocking at the same time.

[Boiler569]

Re: Sway And Pray. Let's Talk About This.

What does foot work matter when you make your opponent hit air and it doesn't gas them?

zing

Stamina really is a huge factor in all of this (and many other 'issues' people want patched) --- so I hope that's looked at first and foremost

[Morgan Monkman]

Re: Sway And Pray. Let's Talk About This.

zing

Stamina really is a huge factor in all of this (and many other 'issues' people want patched) --- so I hope that's looked at first and foremost

There needs to be a bigger stamina drain on missed strikes.

[Find_the_Door]

Re: Sway And Pray. Let's Talk About This.

There needs to be a bigger stamina drain on missed strikes.

Currently there is no stamina drain on strikes just thrown at the air "because fighters have start combos that way."

So your opponent can throw wildly but until they hit something or you manually "evade" a strike then there's stamina drain.

This needs to change

[SaucyJacky]

Re: Sway And Pray. Let's Talk About This.

Just lost a fight to a guy who would sit there in side sway until I got close and just wing 5 piece hooks once I made a move. Even if he sat there for 5 seconds and I tried firing off a jab straight, it would shoot straight over his head as if I can't see clearly where his head is at. Welp, my 5 minute wait for a match is up, so I guess it's time to fight McGoober one more time.

EDIT: I lost to Iron Mike McGoober utilizing more flick and rip action. As it is, the only viable gameplan is to sway and wing hooks, or wait for your opponent to sway so you can wing hooks. Doesn't matter if you like to fight at range or in the clinch. Just wait for your opponent to approach with planted feet and let loose the hooks of war. Yikes.

[The Relaxed Guy]

Re: Guard breaks and head movement changes.

Martial Mind's post on page 6 of this thread is hands down the best post yet on this subject. Absolutely brilliant, and a perfect solution.

I encourage everyone who hasn't already, go and read it.

In a nutshell, the power of in tight combinations isn't the problem - it's the lack of viable options to deal with it through distance and range control. The proposed solution is that when not blocking or exchanging, movement needs to be much faster. This way, players need to cut off the cage and strategically work their way inside in order to dominate in close quarters.

Essentially, engaging in tight exchanges should be a choice the player makes, not a forced element of the games meta.


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[Morgan Monkman]

Re: Sway And Pray. Let's Talk About This.

Currently there is no stamina drain on strikes just thrown at the air "because fighters have start combos that way."

So your opponent can throw wildly but until they hit something or you manually "evade" a strike then there's stamina drain.

This needs to change

Thats not the case.


I was under the assumption they made it so throwing out a jab barely drains stamina due to you trying to find range but a missed kick or power punch will drain it.

[zeric]

Re: Sway And Pray. Let's Talk About This.

I dont think this is as big of a problem as people are making it out to be. There are far more pressing issues and i think this is something that wont be as much of an issue as the game progresses and people continue to learn how to play.

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Ok im uploading a clip right now to show what i meant by this. Against a "top player" who is trying to "sway and pray" and he gets decimated by my non swaying, stationary strikes.

http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/zzzeric/video/44214559

[johnmangala]

Re: Sway And Pray. Let's Talk About This.

Ok im uploading a clip right now to show what i meant by this. Against a "top player" who is trying to "sway and pray" and he gets decimated by my non swaying, stationary strikes.

If they are good at head movement, they will slip your stationary strikes easily with stationary slips and will counter you with ducking uppercuts/swaying strikes.

[zeric]

Re: Sway And Pray. Let's Talk About This.

If they are good at head movement, they will slip your stationary strikes easily with stationary slips and will counter you with ducking uppercuts/swaying strikes.

Watch the clip. He is top 10 on xbox. (or at least he was, most guys in the top 10 bounce around quite a bit)

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[johnmangala]

Re: Sway And Pray. Let's Talk About This.

Watch the clip. He is top 10 on xbox. (or at least he was, most guys in the top 10 bounce around quite a bit)

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It's not loading. But either stationary strikes are easily slipped by stationary sways, leaving you open to counter ducking uppercuts and swaying strikes.