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  • reyes the roof
    Hall Of Fame
    • Mar 2009
    • 11521

    #32806
    Re: NFL Off Topic

    Ugh, watch the Bears bring in Chad Henne now to solve their QB problem

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    • J_Posse
      Greatness Personified
      • Jun 2005
      • 11252

      #32807
      Re: NFL Off Topic

      [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

      I think less than 10 drives in the second half isn't enough time to say if he can save the Bears. Maybe they do it anyway?

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      • legendkiller5
        The Lord of #Hashtags
        • Jun 2008
        • 7731

        #32808
        Re: NFL Off Topic

        Originally posted by J_Posse
        What did Vermeil say and if they asked him a question why shouldn't he answer?

        I just read it and have absolutely no issue with what Vermeil said.

        I think he understands what it takes to be successful in the NFL over Watson, TBH.

        I understand that Watson feels "betrayed," but this ain't the NBA & NFL players are rarely involved in front-office/personnel matters.

        Get over it and play or sit out until they trade you.

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        Okay.

        Watson has every right to be upset, based on what the OWNER told him before they made the GM hire. And this is after dumb decision after dumb decision by the FO, including trading away Hopkins.

        Either way, I wasn't really asking for feedback.
        Last edited by legendkiller5; 01-17-2021, 07:12 PM.
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        • J_Posse
          Greatness Personified
          • Jun 2005
          • 11252

          #32809
          Re: NFL Off Topic

          Originally posted by legendkiller5
          Okay.

          Watson has every right to be upset, based on what the OWNER told him before they made the GM hire. And this is after dumb decision after dumb decision by the FO, including trading away Hopkins.

          Either way, I wasn't really asking for feedback.
          This is a message board and feedback is usually going to come.

          Anyway, I understand that Houston is a ****show, right now, McNair shouldn't made those sort of promises, but you can only control your play.

          Everything else is out of his hands and that is how he should see it.

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          • legendkiller5
            The Lord of #Hashtags
            • Jun 2008
            • 7731

            #32810
            Re: NFL Off Topic

            Originally posted by J_Posse
            This is a message board and feedback is usually going to come.

            Anyway, I understand that Houston is a ****show, right now, McNair shouldn't made those sort of promises, but you can only control your play.

            Everything else is out of his hands and that is how he should see it.

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            Absolutely hilarious, yet not surprising.
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            • J_Posse
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              • Jun 2005
              • 11252

              #32811
              Re: NFL Off Topic

              Originally posted by legendkiller5
              Absolutely hilarious, yet not surprising.
              Not sure what's "hilarious." He needs to worry about what he can effect & not the GM hiring, but I'll let you stay mad.

              And plenty of talented players have wasted years, decades on bad/mediocre teams. He isn't the first and won't be the last.

              The Bills went through 2 decades of questionable hire after hire, but then they hired Beane/McDermott. Now, they've been to the playoffs three out of four years.

              Saying all that to say everything can change quickly.

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              Last edited by J_Posse; 01-17-2021, 07:29 PM.
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              • legendkiller5
                The Lord of #Hashtags
                • Jun 2008
                • 7731

                #32812
                Re: NFL Off Topic

                Yeah, it's not hard at all to see how you would miss the point.
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                • illwill10
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 19791

                  #32813
                  Re: NFL Off Topic

                  "Drew Brees will be retiring after this season, per @JayGlazer https://t.co/ztszyhilR0 "

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                  • kehlis
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                    • Jul 2008
                    • 27738

                    #32814
                    Re: NFL Off Topic

                    Originally posted by illwill10
                    "Drew Brees will be retiring after this season, per @JayGlazer https://t.co/ztszyhilR0 "
                    It was a prediction when he said it, not an actual report.

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                    • DieHardYankee26
                      BING BONG
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 10178

                      #32815
                      Re: NFL Off Topic

                      Originally posted by J_Posse
                      Not sure what's "hilarious." He needs to worry about what he can effect & not the GM hiring, but I'll let you stay mad.

                      And plenty of talented players have wasted years, decades on bad/mediocre teams. He isn't the first and won't be the last.

                      The Bills went through 2 decades of questionable hire after hire, but then they hired Beane/McDermott. Now, they've been to the playoffs three out of four years.

                      Saying all that to say everything can change quickly.

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                      That clears it up. Obviously no one told Deshaun that after 2 decades of failure there may be some light at the end of the tunnel, that would change everything.
                      Originally posted by G Perico
                      If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
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                      • J_Posse
                        Greatness Personified
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 11252

                        #32816
                        Re: NFL Off Topic

                        Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
                        That clears it up. Obviously no one told Deshaun that after 2 decades of failure there may be some light at the end of the tunnel, that would change everything.
                        Point is that things can change quickly with the right hire. There is absolutely no guarantee who he had in mind would improve things or even be hired.

                        That was a mistake by ownership to give him the impression that he would be "involved" in the process, but all he can do now is get over it or ask to be traded.

                        I understand this is acommon thing in basketball, but players in the NFL (even the great Tom Brady) will never wield that sort of power.



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                        • DieHardYankee26
                          BING BONG
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 10178

                          #32817
                          Re: NFL Off Topic

                          It also might take a wholesale ownership change like it did for the Bills to turn it around and that’s not something you can count on. - Knicks fan
                          Originally posted by G Perico
                          If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
                          I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
                          In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
                          The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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                          • J_Posse
                            Greatness Personified
                            • Jun 2005
                            • 11252

                            #32818
                            Re: NFL Off Topic

                            Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
                            It also might take a wholesale ownership change like it did for the Bills to turn it around and that’s not something you can count on. - Knicks fan
                            Having been a fan of the Bills for nearly 30 years, I can say it was more of a cultural change than the death of Ralp Wilson that changed things.

                            Beane/McDermott have drafted well on both sides of the ball, not reached for too many players and hit a home run with Josh Allen.

                            The past regimes either drafted poorly or heavily to one side of the field.

                            Anyway, hopefully Watson can be moved or gets past his feelings being hurt.

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                            • DieHardYankee26
                              BING BONG
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 10178

                              #32819
                              Re: NFL Off Topic

                              Who changed the culture? The city of Buffalo?
                              Originally posted by G Perico
                              If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
                              I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
                              In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
                              The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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                              • J_Posse
                                Greatness Personified
                                • Jun 2005
                                • 11252

                                #32820
                                Re: NFL Off Topic

                                Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
                                Who changed the culture? The city of Buffalo?
                                The Pegulas didn't change the culture of the team, draft or sign the right players, though.
                                They made the hire, yes, but we can't say for certain that Wilson would be unable to as well.

                                The team was in need of a franchise QB (Josh Allen) and better drafting overall.

                                A change in ownership won't do anything for Houston, if they make the wrong hires (with or without DeShaun's input) or draft/sign poorly fitting players.



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                                Last edited by J_Posse; 01-17-2021, 08:52 PM.
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