PGA TOUR 2K21 August 6 Streaming Content Thread

[pietasterp]

Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 August 6 Streaming Content Thread

They're not allowing people to do it because they don't want to get sue by Augusta, Pebble Beach, Royal Melburne, etc. It's as simple as that. If it was so easy, EA could have made a knockoff of Augusta 20 years ago, call it something else and include it in the PGA season. We've already seen Magnolia and Melburne get the XXXXXXX treatment in TGC 2019, it was not just for fun and laugh...

The key difference is that it's not 2K/HB making the courses, it's a user-created course. Legally, I think there's no issue here at all. However, you're probably right that it wouldn't stop a lawsuit or cease & desist or other onerous/costly legal action, which is a headache no one wants. Getting sued or having legal action taken against you doesn't just happen to people that are on the wrong side of the law; in fact, I'd wager that the majority of corporate law is pressing cases where the plaintiff has no legal leg to stand on whatsoever but pursues a case anyway, because legal muscle works exactly the same way mafia muscle does. You want to argue with Luca Brasi about whether they have the legal right to force you to pay tribute?

Catching up on some more of the streams that happened yesterday, and I am getting a kick out of the community fawning over things that other golf and sports games had in the iterations from the current and previous generation of consoles - going back to PS3 and Xbox 360.

Grass textures!
Backspin on approach shots!
Realistic shadows!
Real PGA Tour pro names on the leaderboard!
Yardage book!

I know EA gets a load of negativity for removing things, then adding them back in and saying they are new features, but obviously they aren't the only ones that do this.

I hate to be negative, but I just noticed this and got a charge out of how people are so excited about seeing real players' names on career mode leaderboards - something that could be done in games from 20+ years ago.

All of this stuff was on PGA Tour Golf on the PC back in the 1990's (definitely the "Gold" edition). It's comical but these guys take advantage of the short memories / lower average age of typical gamers. Actually, the developers themselves may well not remember or know that this stuff was in many golf games back in the day. They also may not know what "golf" is, apparently....

To be honest, if I could find a version of "PGA Tour Gold" that still worked on modern technology, I would play that game more than any other game that's come out since that time. I'm not saying this out of hyperbole - it simply has everything in it that I would want in a basic golf game. It's a 25 year old game, by the way...

[scagwi]

Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 August 6 Streaming Content Thread

The comment above highlights why I still wonder if my endgame might be Tiger Woods 2014 played through upscaled emulation

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Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 August 6 Streaming Content Thread

I hate to be negative, but I just noticed this and got a charge out of how people are so excited about seeing real players' names on career mode leaderboards - something that could be done in games from 20+ years ago.

I'm excited to see real player names on the leaderboard, but not for the reason I think you're pushing here... it's not that they "couldn't" do it from the games inception, it's that they "wouldn't" do it because they weren't willing to spend the money and effort necessary to get the rights to use them. In all honestly, they should have done this two years ago when they had "Featuring PGA TOUR" in the game's title!?

I'd lowered my expectations so much for this to happen that I was expecting only the Featured Pros to have their names on the leaderboard. More than once, HB Studios answered questions about whether the leaderboard would have PGA Tour players names on it. They answered with, 'yes, the names of the licensed pros will appear on the leaderboard in career mode'. Everywhere else where they used licensed pros, they meant the "featured" licensed pros in the game, based on the context of the rest of the answer, but in this case it appears they meant all licensed PGA Tour player names.

I don't get their angle on this. Here they had more than one, clear opportunity to inform the potential buyer base that they had secured the rights to use the PGA TOUR roster names on the career mode leaderboard. Yet, they spoke in vague terms that leaned heavily in the other direction. Why!? Was it to trigger this surprise reaction that they're getting to it and that we're should be so grateful to be getting this?

So in essence, I'm surprised that HB Studios finally did what they could do, and quite frankly, should have done over two years ago.

[MrArlingtonBeach]

Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 August 6 Streaming Content Thread

Another thing I have just now noticed, and I know the game the people got to play yesterday was a preview build, but there was no sign of offline/solo societies in the main menu...

[MrArlingtonBeach]

Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 August 6 Streaming Content Thread

One more thing:

While 2K/HB added the "splash" shot type for around the green and out of sand, they have removed the "punch" shot type from the game.

[Klocker]

Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 August 6 Streaming Content Thread

Liked a lot of what I saw today. Two negatives for me are the meter putting. Think they had a better putting system last version. I believe it can be turned off but don't think it will be for online tours (it was on legend preset). It also just looks like meterless putting would be hard in watching streams

Not being able to put user courses into career mode is probably the one that hurts the most for solo players. Seems like that should have been in game without question.

Man i really hope they putting is the same it was in 19 because it was so intuitive without any kind of meter.

what I hated about Rory all those years is that damn meter for putting if you didn't hit it exactly there was no way to really tell how far you were going to hit it.

In PGA 2019 I could dial it in pretty damn well without any kind of meter just by feel and the backstroke distance.

or if they haven't changed the mechanics of it and have only put a meter in to make it easier and it is able to be turned off I will be thrilled. he tied puting specifically to the distance and the meter only it will suck

[scagwi]

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Man i really hope they putting is the same it was in 19 because it was so intuitive without any kind of meter.

It seems changed and is now meter & aiming arrow oriented.

I was watching a twitch last night and that was talked about a bit.
Seems overhauled vs how it used to be

[Klocker]

Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 August 6 Streaming Content Thread

It seems changed and is now meter & aiming arrow oriented.

I was watching a twitch last night and that was talked about a bit.
Seems overhauled vs how it used to be

Oh crap. May have to rethink my preorder

That was my favorite thing about the game. Intuitve feel, short game and putting

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Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 August 6 Streaming Content Thread

With six difficulty levels, I can't believe there's not at least one where power meters for shots and putts are are absent. How can you have a difficulty level called "Legendary", yet include a power meter for ALL shots, including putts!?

[scagwi]

Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 August 6 Streaming Content Thread

With six difficulty levels, I can't believe there's not at least one where power meters for shots and putts are are absent. How can you have a difficulty level called "Legendary", yet include a power meter for ALL shots, including putts!?

Is that confirmed?

You have to play with meters, on all levels?

Even for putting?

(major thumbs down - I hate meters)

[MrArlingtonBeach]

Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 August 6 Streaming Content Thread

With six difficulty levels, I can't believe there's not at least one where power meters for shots and putts are are absent. How can you have a difficulty level called "Legendary", yet include a power meter for ALL shots, including putts!?

I thought the big selling point with difficulty levels and aids in this game was that they could all be edited/turned off/left on, no matter your difficulty level. Is that not true when it comes to power meters?

[MrArlingtonBeach]

Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 August 6 Streaming Content Thread

Solo Society responses from two of the streamers:

VctryLnSprts:
I didn’t see those either, which would be a miss, I agree. However, we weren’t able to investigate the society area, so perhaps it’s in there but packaged differently in the menu grids?

seamount4life:
Unfortunately I don't have the answer as we didn't really have access to it. However the Menu Tile says ONLINE Societies so there is a strong chance that means the Solo Societies option has been removed.

If Solo Societies are out...there's no way to get a true replication of the PGA Tour season, using all the "real" courses they play on. That would be unfortunate.

[TheBrew101]

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I don't like meters either. I did see it in the legend stream I watched. I did ask one of the streamers about the putting meter in the comments and he said it could be turned off.

In watching, I thought the swing went fast so more sure how it plays without meters (assuming they can be turned off).

[jbd345]

Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 August 6 Streaming Content Thread

I don't like meters either. I did see it in the legend stream I watched. I did ask one of the streamers about the putting meter in the comments and he said it could be turned off.

In watching, I thought the swing went fast so more sure how it plays without meters (assuming they can be turned off).

Thought I saw one that said it could be turned off as well, but there was a vibration feedback when approaching the shot %.

[Klocker]

Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 August 6 Streaming Content Thread

I don't like meters either. I did see it in the legend stream I watched. I did ask one of the streamers about the putting meter in the comments and he said it could be turned off.

In watching, I thought the swing went fast so more sure how it plays without meters (assuming they can be turned off).

would be great if you can turn the putting meter off. I just hope they didn't change the mechanic so it remains consistent with the backswing of the putter as it was in 19

Thought I saw one that said it could be turned off as well, but there was a vibration feedback when approaching the shot %.

Dang that does not bode well for putting system remaining in as was.