PGA TOUR 2K21 August 6 Streaming Content Thread

[MrArlingtonBeach]

Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 August 6 Streaming Content Thread

PGA 2K21 achievements are out:

https://www.keengamer.com/articles/guides/the-complete-pga-tour-2k21-trophies-and-achievements-list/

- TOUR Pro: Earn all Trophies.
- Nananana: Sink 5 putts in a row in the putting practice without mulligans, or using Place Ball.
- PGA TOUR event winner: Win a PGA TOUR Event.
- A Challenger Appears: Win a rivalry in PGA TOUR Career mode.
- Scratch Golfer: Earn a Handicap Index of scratch (zero) or better.
- Ferret: Hole the ball from off the green on an official course.
- Golden Ferret: Hole the ball from a bunker on an official course.
- Reliable Contractor: Complete all the goals of a single sponsor contract in PGA TOUR Career.
- Making a Living: Earn $10,000,000 in a single PGA TOUR season.
- Mixed Bag: Complete an 18 hole round with clubs from at least 5 different brands in your golf bag.
- Déjà Vu: Make a putt from more than 10ft after using a putt preview that also ended in the cup.
- Team Spirit: Complete an 18 hole round with three ghosts.
- FIR Collector : Hit all fairways in regulation in an 18 hole round on an official course.
- GIR Collector: Hit all greens in regulation in an 18 hole round on an official course.
- I Have The Power: Drive the ball 350 yards onto a fairway with a swing of 103% or more.
- True Legend: Shoot Par or better on 18 holes of an official course on Legend difficulty.
- Playing For Stakes: Finish a Skins match.
- Egg-cellent Match: Finish a Scramble match.
- Playing With Others: Finish a round in Matchmaking.
- Invite Only: Finish a round in a Private Match.
- Plus Ten: Earn a Handicap Index of +10 or better.
- THE PLAYERS-Champion: Win THE PLAYERS Championship.
- Top Dog: Beat the last rival in PGA TOUR Career.
- Express Delivery: Win the FedExCup.
- Brand Loyalty: Max out your progression with any sponsor in PGA TOUR Career.
- Blue Blooded: Win the Royal Championship.
- A Masterful Performance: Win the Legends Championship.
- Regent In The North: Win the Northwest Open.
- This Is Major: Win the The Golf Club Championship.
- Ace: Score a hole-in-one on an official course.

I am most intrigued by the "Making a Living" achievement, as this implies that there is a money list in-game. I haven't seen that yet in any streams, so that's a pleasant surprise, if true.

[OnlookerDelay]

Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 August 6 Streaming Content Thread

I suppose I would if I thought it would make any difference, but I have significant doubts that it would. Not to mention, given the way it sounds like they treat people with critical or even not-critical-but-not-complimentary opinions over there, not sure I want to even bother. Also, I'm lazy.

I guess at this point, the game is 2 weeks away (or whatever the date is) from being out in the wild, so we'll get opinions from more trusted sources soon enough. I wish they'd release a demo but I can wait.

It might very well make a difference, especially if lots of others got on board with you on this... I know I would! They've proven to me that they listen to feedback, but they don't respond to it or even acknowledge it as often as I think they should. Still, they surprised the heck out of me with some to the things they included in 2K21 that I thought they were ambivalent about.

Your points about the short game being a "get out of jail free" card are valid and backed up with reason. They need to hear it expressed in the most eloquent terms in which you used here. It might just be the grain that tips the scales! You've got an account over there; I encourage you to use it and make your voice heard. HB Studios is always a bit welcoming of a new voice there, so let freedom ring baby!

[lowpaiddonkey10]

Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 August 6 Streaming Content Thread

For all the work they did I'm still just so bummed that the short game and around the green looks like it does.

I don't like the shot selection, the animations for it, the camera work and sure as hell don't like the "bail out" nature of the shots they are situationally allowing.

I don't think they understand how much they are short circuiting the whole point of proper aiming, shot selection and mastering of different clubs and shots by allowing you to basically "get out of jail free" if you miss on your approach and/or get into trouble in general.

You don't have to flop around the greens or on them like some YouTubers do. Ruff ruff.

[lowpaiddonkey10]

Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 August 6 Streaming Content Thread

From the looks of some of the higher difficulty levels they added cheesing around the greens is the least of the problems. I played Master in 19 looks like Pro is as hard as I can handle. You wanted to miss fairways you got it now.

[scagwi]

Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 August 6 Streaming Content Thread

You don't have to flop around the greens or on them like some YouTubers do. Ruff ruff.

You sort of do if competing with others online

It’s sort of like steroids in sports

[jbd345]

Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 August 6 Streaming Content Thread

I only use flop shot in realistic situations like having to go over a bunker or hill/water....to say it’s like it’s steroids or a get out of jail free card is a bit of a stretch. if it’s used appropriately, it’s fine.

[lowpaiddonkey10]

Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 August 6 Streaming Content Thread

You sort of do if competing with others online

It’s sort of like steroids in sports

Unfortunate you got cheesers. I want to replicate something of a real experience.

[Freakywwe]

Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 August 6 Streaming Content Thread

I only use flop shot in realistic situations like having to go over a bunker or hill/water....to say it’s like it’s steroids or a get out of jail free card is a bit of a stretch. if it’s used appropriately, it’s fine.

Played against many people online in 2K19 who wouldn't even putt on the green, just flop shot it within 6 inches for the tap in

It's a big problem online and shouldn't be the go-to shot no matter where you are as long as you're within 50 yards of the hole

[scagwi]

Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 August 6 Streaming Content Thread

I only use flop shot in realistic situations like having to go over a bunker or hill/water....to say it’s like it’s steroids or a get out of jail free card is a bit of a stretch. if it’s used appropriately, it’s fine.

What “you” do isn’t the problem...

It’s what the person you’d be competing with is allowed to do by the software.

Guys come on… This is not hard to understand.

It’d be the equivalent in real life of someone you are competing against using an illegal club, and you guys are suggesting that we should just “not use it ourselves”?

[MrArlingtonBeach]

Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 August 6 Streaming Content Thread

I don't get why they couldn't specifically only allow "Splash" shots when in bunkers.

And I also don't know why they aren't forcing you to use a putter when on the green (specifically and uniquely when playing online in ranked matches - feel free to chip on the green in local matches and career mode if you want). I mean, they are keeping Putt Preview on for all ranked matches in PGA 2K21, so why not just require putter use then, too?

[lowpaiddonkey10]

Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 August 6 Streaming Content Thread

I don't get why they couldn't specifically only allow "Splash" shots when in bunkers.

And I also don't know why they aren't forcing you to use a putter when on the green (specifically and uniquely when playing online in ranked matches - feel free to chip on the green in local matches and career mode if you want). I mean, they are keeping Putt Preview on for all ranked matches in PGA 2K21, so why not just require putter use then, too?

Good question they either can't or won't who knows but at least they got rid of the 1 iron 200 yard shot out of the rough.

[jbd345]

Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 August 6 Streaming Content Thread

What “you” do isn’t the problem...

It’s what the person you’d be competing with is allowed to do by the software.

Guys come on… This is not hard to understand.

It’d be the equivalent in real life of someone you are competing against using an illegal club, and you guys are suggesting that we should just “not use it ourselves”?

Then it’s up to whoever made the competition at that point. People will always find a way to curve the software to their favor. Idk. Don’t play online or find a good sim league with good house rules. Ranked matches in multiplayer modes have always been a mess. If they take this out, they’ll find something else. With 2k maybe will finally get good post launch support as far as gameplay tuning and patches. It’s hard to say something is broken in a game that hasn’t even been released yet though.

[scagwi]

Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 August 6 Streaming Content Thread

With 2k maybe will finally get good post launch support as far as gameplay tuning and patches.

That is my great hope also.

I agree we can’t make a final determination because it hasn’t released and I should have qualified my statements that they are all regarding what we are hearing and seeing from the streamers so far.

[MrArlingtonBeach]

Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 August 6 Streaming Content Thread

In all the content, interviews, Q&A, etc. for PGA 2K21, at least HB Studios has been out there saying they will be supporting the game post-release - in terms of DLC, course and MyPlayer gear additions, etc.

Seems like they are at least looking ahead at more support for the game after it comes out, so that's a positive.

It remains to be seen, of course, how they'll address any gameplay issues. They have already shut down the notion of fixing the consistent 96% swing "exploit", but as the game isn't in the public's hands yet, who knows what their post-release support will be like for sure.

I am very interested to see how they approach putting, as that seems to be the area in which most of the streamers' have a unified view - that putting is a bit twitchy compared to TGC 2019.

[scagwi]

Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 August 6 Streaming Content Thread

In all the content, interviews, Q&A, etc. for PGA 2K21, at least HB Studios has been out there saying they will be supporting the game post-release - in terms of DLC, course and MyPlayer gear additions, etc.

Seems like they are at least looking ahead at more support for the game after it comes out, so that's a positive.

It remains to be seen, of course, how they'll address any gameplay issues. They have already shut down the notion of fixing the consistent 96% swing "exploit", but as the game isn't in the public's hands yet, who knows what their post-release support will be like for sure.

I am very interesting to see how they approach putting, as that seems to be the area in which most of the streamers' have a unified view - that putting is a bit twitchy compared to TGC 2019.

So weird they'd settle on a constant 96% if you hold the overswing too long..

Why wouldn't you make that be anything from 85-98% or something so it could never be gamed and was truly introducing risk of "who knows what I'll get" if you go for overswing too aggressively