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  • Skyboxer
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    • Jul 2002
    • 20302

    #241
    Re: Both PS4 and XBOX3 to be shown at E3

    Frankly as a mainly FB and BaseBall gamer (along with "some" shooters...)
    I just hope we finally get a FB game that has things like... FB fundamentals in it. A game where coaching and ratings matter. A game where you have more options for passing other than hit X for X ...etc...
    But mostly get the fundamentals and physics down.
    Hell I'd take "get it close"
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    • choadler
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      • Feb 2004
      • 2001

      #242
      Re: Both PS4 and XBOX3 to be shown at E3

      Originally posted by Skyboxer
      Frankly as a mainly FB and BaseBall gamer (along with "some" shooters...)
      I just hope we finally get a FB game that has things like... FB fundamentals in it. A game where coaching and ratings matter. A game where you have more options for passing other than hit X for X ...etc...
      But mostly get the fundamentals and physics down.
      Hell I'd take "get it close"
      My guess is that you won't. The first iteration of the Next gen football was a joke. EA showed off how great it looked, but it was atrocious football. Most likely we will see great textures, possibly some new physics, but AI and other aspects of the game will not be better the end products of last gen. Things like Franchise mode will be back to square one as they rush to get the new engine coded. It will take several versions of development before they catch up again.

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      • mestevo
        Gooney Goo Goo
        • Apr 2010
        • 19556

        #243
        Its much more likely we'll see much more compatible architectures from this Gen to next imo so I'm not so pessimistic.

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        • Skyboxer
          Donny Baseball!
          • Jul 2002
          • 20302

          #244
          Re: Both PS4 and XBOX3 to be shown at E3

          Originally posted by choadler
          My guess is that you won't. The first iteration of the Next gen football was a joke. EA showed off how great it looked, but it was atrocious football. Most likely we will see great textures, possibly some new physics, but AI and other aspects of the game will not be better the end products of last gen. Things like Franchise mode will be back to square one as they rush to get the new engine coded. It will take several versions of development before they catch up again.
          Its really not ai that is the most needed in Madden.
          Fundamental football and Player ratings that actually mean something is the main thing for me.
          Why can I have a 99 rated de beast get stonewalled 9 times out of 10 by a 60 rated tackle?
          Why can we still run backwards and not really be penalized when throwing as much as it should?
          Get that down, add the "supposed" ball awareness NCAA is said to have IF it is true.
          Also get some excitement in the game via presentation and "little things"
          Like players leaving and coming on field etc...

          There was just too many years wasted on covering up faults with gimicks rather that getting the issues fixed.
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          • choadler
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            • Feb 2004
            • 2001

            #245
            Re: Both PS4 and XBOX3 to be shown at E3

            Originally posted by Skyboxer
            Its really not ai that is the most needed in Madden.
            Fundamental football and Player ratings that actually mean something is the main thing for me.
            Why can I have a 99 rated de beast get stonewalled 9 times out of 10 by a 60 rated tackle?
            Why can we still run backwards and not really be penalized when throwing as much as it should?
            Get that down, add the "supposed" ball awareness NCAA is said to have IF it is true.
            Also get some excitement in the game via presentation and "little things"
            Like players leaving and coming on field etc...

            There was just too many years wasted on covering up faults with gimicks rather that getting the issues fixed.
            I understand what you are saying there. My guess is that EA will pursue the gimmicks rather than fixing OL/DL interaction.

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            • RoyalBoyle78
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              • May 2003
              • 23918

              #246
              Will the 360 and ps3 still be supported when this new consoles are released? I'm not jumping in to the new systems like the past.
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              • mestevo
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                • Apr 2010
                • 19556

                #247
                Originally posted by Footballforever
                Will the 360 and ps3 still be supported when this new consoles are released? I'm not jumping in to the new systems like the past.
                Too many systems sold for publishers to drop them cold, they'll have a healthy slate of games for a couple/few years after like the PS2.

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                • JWR3232
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                  • Jul 2011
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                  #248
                  I don't really want new systems but I really hope the have FULL backwards comparability (on new xbox play xbox 360 and original xbox games and ps4 play ps 1,2,3 games) probably wont but it would be great to have because in that case I would defiantly buy sooner rather than later. Another thing with te rumors of no used games I wouldn't not min that as much if the cost of new games reduced to the $40-50$ range preferably 40 lol


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                  • DamnYanks2
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                    • Jun 2007
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                    #249
                    Re: Both PS4 and XBOX3 to be shown at E3

                    I really hope the PS4 has a cleaner picture with little to no jaggies.

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                    • Jm0ney2001
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 1352

                      #250
                      Re: Both PS4 and XBOX3 to be shown at E3

                      I heard on the radio tonight, on kfan here in mn that the ps4 or xbox next will not be at e3. At least not playable or in released soon condition. I don't think we.will see them till next.year.

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                      • bukktown
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                        • Jan 2007
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                        #251
                        Re: Both PS4 and XBOX3 to be shown at E3

                        Originally posted by Jm0ney2001
                        I heard on the radio tonight, on kfan here in mn that the ps4 or xbox next will not be at e3. At least not playable or in released soon condition. I don't think we.will see them till next.year.
                        I heard that too. They said that an announcement wouldn't come until next April at the earliest (end of fiscal year) because the 360 and ps3 still are selling well and the moment that a new console is announced, those sales drop dramatically.

                        I would like to see the ps2 sales numbers before and after the ps3 was announced to see what the merit is in that logic.

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                        • rspencer86
                          MIB Crew
                          • Sep 2004
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                          #252
                          Re: Both PS4 and XBOX3 to be shown at E3

                          Originally posted by bukktown
                          I would like to see the ps2 sales numbers before and after the ps3 was announced to see what the merit is in that logic.
                          IIRC, PS2 sales were quite strong even several months after the PS3's release, much less its announcement.
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                          • mestevo
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                            • Apr 2010
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                            #253
                            Re: Both PS4 and XBOX3 to be shown at E3

                            Yeah, also doesn't make sense to hold out... cheap hardware, huge libraries... vs expensive hardware, minimal software.

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                            • bukktown
                              MVP
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 3257

                              #254
                              Re: Both PS4 and XBOX3 to be shown at E3

                              Originally posted by rspencer86
                              IIRC, PS2 sales were quite strong even several months after the PS3's release, much less its announcement.
                              I looked at some unofficial sales numbers and it took a full year after release for the ps3 to outsell the ps2 in a calendar month.



                              I wonder how long it will take for next gen consoles to outsell current gen.

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                              • Chef Matt
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                                • Apr 2008
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                                #255
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