**Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread Part II**

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  • Blzer
    Resident film pundit
    • Mar 2004
    • 42531

    #961
    Re: **Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread Part II**

    Originally posted by Rawdeal28
    so let me get this straight. gears is a professional movie reviewer? or critic?
    Will that change your opinion on his reviews?

    I feel like people have some sort of unconscious psyche that, as long as they have the title, their opinion holds a higher guard than somebody else. I mean obviously if it is their job to identify technological aspects of a piece of cinema and form sentences in a fluid stream of their extensive vocabulary on a web page, then they should know what they're talking about. But sometimes I see/hear things that they don't, and I'm not even talking about The Dark Knight (though after looking back, it seems a lot of reviewers noticed the EE, but because it's the coolest movie ever, they don't want to ding it for that when a potential re-release with this fix would deserve a higher score).

    So in that regard, somebody that doesn't notice the constant crackle in the dialogue of Street Kings or the over-saturated look of 300 may be missing something because their eyes and ears may not be able to perceive what someone else's eyes can, and while their report may seem valuable as ever, they might not have gotten the whole picture. This is a "no offense" to Gears, but if he can't notice the EE, that's just that his eyes can't detect that. I never went looking for EE, I watched it without reading a single review. The first IMAX shot... brilliant. The first shot with Ramirez and Woerz however... there should have been a rather instantaneous difference between that and the first scene in the movie.

    Now, where in that did I say the picture looks bad? It doesn't. It's just that it doesn't deserve a 5 because, what if a re-release (which is completely imaginable with the lack of Heath Ledger special features in this one) with this EE and DNR fix makes the image look better? What do you score that? You can't give it a 5.1. You can't knock down your score for the original BD release. What now? That's what I'm saying... this was not a reference video transfer and has room for improvement. 4.5 is a reasonable score.

    I know I'm nitpicking, but if it wasn't for nitpicking in this world we wouldn't be where we are technologically, even with next-gen games. Getting a signature stance or sock color corrected is small, but hey, if it can be something to make it look better, why be against that? Just because I can't see the problem with the stance or sock color doesn't mean there isn't anything wrong with it. Same thing here. Besides, for a movie that reached nearly $1 billion in the box office, if it is anything short of the best looking and sounding Blu-ray in the world, there's something wrong with that.


    So to answer your question... he has his own website where he reviews pre-released Blu-ray discs, and his reviews, from both a technological and editorial aspect, seem both sound and professional in my book. But in the end, it's what you see on screen. Not all BD's are created the same, and that's why we have ratings for their audio and video components. I like how people are titling me "movie critic" (with the quotations included) because they think that's suddenly what I'm passing myself off as because I am familiar with the term EE and what effects it has on a movie. I just feel sorry for myself because I am plagued with being able to see it when others can't. At least it makes things look better by comparison when it's not there.
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    • JohnnytheSkin
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      • Jul 2003
      • 5914

      #962
      Re: **Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread Part II**

      Jesus Christ, Blzer...just stop! A simple yes or no would have sufficed, instead you post another treatise about how you have perfect vision, see things others don't, not that it's a "bad thing", hear crackles on your system, and five more paragraphs of verbal diarrhea.
      Last edited by JohnnytheSkin; 12-20-2008, 11:06 AM.
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      • CaptainZombie
        Brains
        • Jul 2003
        • 37851

        #963
        Re: **Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread Part II**

        Originally posted by JohnnytheSkin
        Jesus Christ, Blzer...just stop! A simple yes or no would have sufficed, instead you post another treatise about how you have perfect vision, see things others don't, not that it's a "bad thing", hear crackles on your system, and five more paragraphs of verbal diarrhea.
        This guy does not stop. Rawdeal asked a question, and instead of a simple yes/no/I don't know..................he goes on and on for paragraphs about EE/DNR. I've known about DNR/EE for years while this guy was standing at Best Buy kiosks trying to become an expert on MLB2K7, Blu-ray, etc.

        Anyone can go to AVS and look at Xylon's screen captures, then call themselves an expert. Blzer takes an attack on me with his comment about TDK since that was never brought up.

        Not once did I ever come in here acting like an expert and have posted about the high def format since a year after its inception on these boards. No other reviewer on the net goes on and on like you have about TDK..........even on the forums I visit. Blzer, I would be embarrassed of myself to keep this up like earlier in the year when you got yourself into trouble in the MLB forums.

        Yes, Street Kings does have some issues with the audio which is well known.
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        • Blzer
          Resident film pundit
          • Mar 2004
          • 42531

          #964
          Re: **Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread Part II**

          The reason I didn't say "yes" or "no" is because I didn't know the answer. I do want to know what his motive was, though... and how your reviews make a difference if you are "professional" or not.

          Originally posted by GearsX8
          Anyone can go to AVS and look at Xylon's screen captures, then call themselves an expert.
          That has nothing to do with anything (and doesn't even make sense, seeing that I only saw those pictures for the first time after I had to get some screengrabs for proof), and my rant about TDK would have stopped much sooner if people just understood that you don't see what I see, and instead insist that there isn't a problem.

          But I'm done. I will stop, because you're right... I don't want this to turn into what happened last December, which made no sense either (only a question about jaggies that turned into some 2K baseball love/The Show hate thing that never existed).





          However...

          Yes, Street Kings does have some issues with the audio which is well known.
          At least you and I are at agreement here, but since people like to compare reviews so much, the "professional reviewer" at High-Def Digest (as well as the one on AVS) didn't seem to find any audio crackling issues whatsoever:


          The Audio: Rating the Sound
          Loud, heavy, and aggressive, ‘Street Kings’ intense DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 surround track packs the sort of punch I long for when it comes to bullet-riddled police dramas. Gunfire is precisely mapped across the soundfield, using gut-kicks from the LFE channel and transparent pans to effectively place the listener in the middle of the on-screen action. When Ludlow storms a house early in the film, the interior acoustics are convincing, the various blasts and impacts are resonant, and ambience is subtle and realistic. While dialogue tends to be a bit throaty at times, it’s still clean, crisp, and well-prioritized throughout the film, even in the midst of the most chaotic action scenes.

          If I have any complaint, it’s that the score is slightly over-represented in the mix. Thankfully, the music doesn’t drown out any conversations and rarely detracts from the overall quality of the track. All in all, ‘Street Kings’ provides a first-rate sonic experience that should completely satisfy fans of the film and the genre.
          This is all I'm saying... sometimes they don't get it right because they can't. His ears must not be capable of reaching that frequency, or whatever is causing it to happen. When I tried to return it at F.Y.E. the next day and it was closed because it was too early, then went to Best Buy to make sure I wasn't just hearing things, one rep said he didn't hear it while the other did. It just shows that some people can't hear/see things.
          Last edited by Blzer; 12-20-2008, 11:48 AM.
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          • Slymm
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            • Nov 2002
            • 3406

            #965
            Re: **Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread Part II**

            this thread has become laughable. I would check this out to get Blu ray news but now it has turned into the blazr show.
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            • DTX3
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jun 2003
              • 13022

              #966
              Re: **Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread Part II**

              Over $60M Spent on Blu-ray Last Week
              Posted December 19, 2008 03:32 PM by Josh Dreuth


              Blu-ray Disc According to Home Media Magazine, consumers spent over $60M on Blu-ray titles last week, representing 14% of the home media market. The 167% spike is due in large part to the Blu-ray release of 'The Dark Knight', which is breaking Blu-ray sales records around the world. Comparatively, the previous week, where 'Wanted' was the hot new release, consumers spent $23.64M on Blu-ray.

              On the year in whole, consumers have spent nearly $500M on Blu-ray titles, and the average spent per week has been growing as adoption continues to rise.
              Good sign for Blu.
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              • Seymour Scagnetti
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                • Oct 2006
                • 2489

                #967
                Re: **Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread Part II**

                Originally posted by DTX3
                Good sign for Blu.
                I don't think there ever was a question that Bluray would not be adapted. From VHS to DVD to Bluray, just a natural progression of technology. The only thing holding people back initially was the BR players ridiculous price and now they are starting to be reasonably priced I expect the current DVD\BR market share to be reversed by this time next year. DVD's have about 2 years left in thier life cycle.

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                • Heelfan71
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                  • Jul 2002
                  • 19940

                  #968
                  Re: **Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread Part II**

                  are the prices coming down? During the short format war you could get good deals. When HD-DVD went down, the prices jumped back up and since then I quit buying them. I just rent them on Netflix now.
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                  • CaptainZombie
                    Brains
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 37851

                    #969
                    Re: **Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread Part II**

                    While this is a generic brand player, this is what people want and if they could get players like this at the $99 or less price................I see even more hopping on to the format.

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                    • RockyTop1
                      All Star
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 8267

                      #970
                      Re: **Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread Part II**

                      Originally posted by Heelfan71
                      are the prices coming down? During the short format war you could get good deals. When HD-DVD went down, the prices jumped back up and since then I quit buying them. I just rent them on Netflix now.
                      Yes, they're definitely coming down. If you wait 2-3 weeks after release, somebody will have the brand new releases for $19. I've yet to pay more than $19.99 for any blu ray I've bought other than Lost S3 (39) Godfather (33) and Planet Earth (35)
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                      • bkrich83
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                        • Jul 2002
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                        #971
                        Re: **Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread Part II**

                        Originally posted by Slymm
                        this thread has become laughable. I would check this out to get Blu ray news but now it has turned into
                        the blazr show.
                        And very soon he will make the move where he plays himself as the innocent victim in all this.

                        Just do what I do, put him on ignore. If everyone did that, this particular thread would be much more useful.
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                        • ChubbyBanana
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                          • Oct 2003
                          • 7071

                          #972
                          Re: **Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread Part II**

                          FYI Best Buy has HBO Box Sets 50% off. Picked up Band of Brothers Blu Ray for $37.99.

                          Also picked up regular DVD of Generation Kill for $27.99...
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                          • CaptainZombie
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                            • Jul 2003
                            • 37851

                            #973
                            Re: **Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread Part II**

                            Originally posted by ChubbyBanana
                            FYI Best Buy has HBO Box Sets 50% off. Picked up Band of Brothers Blu Ray for $37.99.

                            Also picked up regular DVD of Generation Kill for $27.99...
                            I wonder what happened to the Generation Kill Blu-ray that was to release at the same time as the DVD.
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                            • ChubbyBanana
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                              • Oct 2003
                              • 7071

                              #974
                              Re: **Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread Part II**

                              Originally posted by GearsX8
                              I wonder what happened to the Generation Kill Blu-ray that was to release at the same time as the DVD.
                              I have no idea. I thought it would be out at same time also, but Amazon.com doesn't have a release date listed for it.

                              I bought the DVD version for now. It should look ok with the upconvert, but will probably pick up a blu version when/if they release one...
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                              • GAMEC0CK2002
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                                • Aug 2002
                                • 10384

                                #975
                                Re: **Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread Part II**

                                Despite the warnings, went ahead and watched Season 3 of Lost in blu ray. Had never seen an episode before. Verdict: Awesome show and stunning on blu ray. Would probably have been even better had I seen Seasons 1 and 2.

                                Buying Season 4 later this week.

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