Superman Man Of Steel

[Chrisksaint]

Re: Superman Man Of Steel

Some people just have criticisms with movies, it is what it is. I have some problems with certain movies that are universally acclaimed and i'm sure others do as well, it's just how it is.

I vote we move on to just discussing the movie, and not calling a mod who's been pretty reasonable a troll.

[BlueNGold]

Re: Superman Man Of Steel

What was that award that used to be handed out here? Asshat of the Week?

Hmm....

[CMH]

Everything I mentioned was in THIS thread. But I'm starting to see a pattern here...you don't read the entire posts of other people, you're more of a cliff notes guy. You just skim them and rush in to comment. Admirable trait in a moderator.

And you've made veiled threats about me trolling TWICE on this thread (Do you only skim your own posts too?) and I understand that might be your go to debate tactic but don't act like you don't understand what a mod waving that lil' sword is all about. You're better than that...even when you're talking about yourself in the third person.

Yes, I have robustly defended a movie I liked while you, Sir, just seem to be lurking around reminding everybody you didn't. Is there not a puppy forum on the site you can go to and tell everybody you're a cat person over and over? Maybe you can call a person who likes Poodles a borderline troll with an agenda. Good times. Good times.

We should stop.

I'm trying to have a normal argument about a movie. I'm trying to ask you to explain your criticisms of those that didn't enjoy the film and you haven't done that.

It just seems you're trying to make it personal by throwing slight jabs at me and I don't know why because I never threw a personal punch at you; I only challenged a post you made (yes with some mod power thrown in to warn you it was close to trolling though you seem to believe I said it was trolling).

But now I feel you're gonna say something that will get you in trouble and that's not my intent.

So we should simply move on. Agree to disagree. Whatever people want to call it now.


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[Hiro1]

Re: Superman Man Of Steel

I want to see it again. For some reason the last couple of movies I've seen have been better the second time around. I loved the fight scenes and really didnt care about the people in buildings.
My problem

Spoiler

Cant believe Jon Kent(Dad) died trying to free a dog. A DOG. I saw it coming too lol. My thoughts immediately after the scene "I cant believe you people"

[DonkeyJote]

Re: Superman Man Of Steel

I want to see it again. For some reason the last couple of movies I've seen have been better the second time around. I loved the fight scenes and really didnt care about the people in buildings.
My problem

Spoiler

Cant believe Jon Kent(Dad) died trying to free a dog. A DOG. I saw it coming too lol. My thoughts immediately after the scene "I cant believe you people"

You see, to me, that doesn't seem all that crazy at all.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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The dog did appear in most of the family and farm scenes.

[GAMEC0CK2002]

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I want to see it again. For some reason the last couple of movies I've seen have been better the second time around. I loved the fight scenes and really didnt care about the people in buildings.
My problem

Spoiler

Cant believe Jon Kent(Dad) died trying to free a dog. A DOG. I saw it coming too lol. My thoughts immediately after the scene "I cant believe you people"

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You'd be surprised. Many people would give every last effort for their pet (dog). In any event, I'm sure he thought he could save the dog AND they both survive.

[Chrisksaint]

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Took my mom to see it and thoroughly enjoyed it again, thought and noticed some more things this time around.

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There was the destruction of some of the city from his fighting, but most of those building seemed empty and a lot people seemed to have been evacuating besides some stragglers,etc.

I definitely could see it being due to his in experience as a Superhero, but there were times when he obviously was the Superman of old such as saving the family, telling people to get inside during Smallville fight, saving several fo the army guys, etc. But when he let his emotions gets the best of him there was damage such as Zod messing with his mom and the facing him again.

[Galvatron]

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WOW, what a movie. I never thought a Superman movie could have me on the edge of my seat in the year 2013 but man, this was one intense flick. A great story, really good performances, and LOTS OF ACTION.....

But maybe too much, and this is where I can definitely understand where some people have problems with the movie.

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I kinda felt they went a little overboard with the destruction of Metropolis and the drawn out fight scenes after a while, not because I grew tired of them, but because they left little room to up the ante for the sequel.

I mean, to me its almost as if the film makers just went all out for fear that the movie wouldnt do well enough to get a sequel greenlit. And some of that is probably due to the criticisms of Superman Returns, which I didnt hate but really did nothing new for the character and in fact probably damaged the brand even more.

Which brings me to the character of Superman himself in MoS. I LOVED how they presented his origin story in the form of flashbacks through the movie. Also dug how he's shown going through what really was just a HUGE learning process of becoming Earth's greatest defender. He made mistakes and he wasn't perfect, something Superman fans are unfamiliar with(a good thing IMO) but he still showed the characteristics of a great hero.

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As was mentioned, the scenes where he told the people to "get inside, it's not safe" and saving the soldiers was very Superman-like. Also cool was his interaction with army after they began to trust him, discussing strategies how to stop the Kryptonians. Very cool and a refreshing change from the Reeve/Donner films IMO.

The love story (or lack thereof) was pretty meh, tho. Seemed too rushed and not really convincing considering the events at the end of the movie, although Amy Adams was pretty good as Lois.

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Not sure how I feel about the whole secret identity introduction at the end either. I don't know, just doesn't seem believable in this type of Superman movie. But it IS part of the character mythos so I can go with it I guess. Just seems kinda weird.

But the major reason I liked MoS is that it was a NEW vision of Superman, one that shows the development of the character, instead of just giving us a perfect, flawless God like being who has a clear cut solution for everything as soon as he appears on screen. I think maybe some fans that complain that Superman would never do some of the things he does in MoS tend to forget that he lived on Earth, among humans pretty much ALL his life. It just really wouldn't make much sense to do the full boy scout routine right out the gate, especially since the filmmakers wanted to take a more realistic approach (something many fans enjoyed about Nolan's Batman movies) I'm sure the sequels will show him as a more experienced and smarter superhero.

In conclusion I give it 4 out of 5 stars. And Hans Zimmer's score ROCKED!

[Happy29]

I agree with a lot of what you said. I plan to go see it again tomorrow. As far as being so much here they might not meet or exceed expectations in the sequel I'm thinking there was a couple of Easter eggs in there that might have hinted at

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Brainiac showing up for it and that could be a pretty epic showdown itself

WOW, what a movie. I never thought a Superman movie could have me on the edge of my seat in the year 2013 but man, this was one intense flick. A great story, really good performances, and LOTS OF ACTION.....

But maybe too much, and this is where I can definitely understand where some people have problems with the movie.

Spoiler

I kinda felt they went a little overboard with the destruction of Metropolis and the drawn out fight scenes after a while, not because I grew tired of them, but because they left little room to up the ante for the sequel.

I mean, to me its almost as if the film makers just went all out for fear that the movie wouldnt do well enough to get a sequel greenlit. And some of that is probably due to the criticisms of Superman Returns, which I didnt hate but really did nothing new for the character and in fact probably damaged the brand even more.

Which brings me to the character of Superman himself in MoS. I LOVED how they presented his origin story in the form of flashbacks through the movie. Also dug how he's shown going through what really was just a HUGE learning process of becoming Earth's greatest defender. He made mistakes and he wasn't perfect, something Superman fans are unfamiliar with(a good thing IMO) but he still showed the characteristics of a great hero.

Spoiler

As was mentioned, the scenes where he told the people to "get inside, it's not safe" and saving the soldiers was very Superman-like. Also cool was his interaction with army after they began to trust him, discussing strategies how to stop the Kryptonians. Very cool and a refreshing change from the Reeve/Donner films IMO.

The love story (or lack thereof) was pretty meh, tho. Seemed too rushed and not really convincing considering the events at the end of the movie, although Amy Adams was pretty good as Lois.

Spoiler

Not sure how I feel about the whole secret identity introduction at the end either. I don't know, just doesn't seem believable in this type of Superman movie. But it IS part of the character mythos so I can go with it I guess. Just seems kinda weird.

But the major reason I liked MoS is that it was a NEW vision of Superman, one that shows the development of the character, instead of just giving us a perfect, flawless God like being who has a clear cut solution for everything as soon as he appears on screen. I think maybe some fans that complain that Superman would never do some of the things he does in MoS tend to forget that he lived on Earth, among humans pretty much ALL his life. It just really wouldn't make much sense to do the full boy scout routine right out the gate, especially since the filmmakers wanted to take a more realistic approach (something many fans enjoyed about Nolan's Batman movies) I'm sure the sequels will show him as a more experienced and smarter superhero.

In conclusion I give it 4 out of 5 stars. And Hans Zimmer's score ROCKED!

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[Leon]

Re: Superman Man Of Steel

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Can the Superman fans out there spread the word that there's really no other choice.Let Cranston stick to meth.Thanks
<a href="http://t.co/Sgv0XNugTA">http://t.co/Sgv0XNugTA</a></p>&mdash; Michael Rosenbaum (@mrosenbaum711) <a href="https://twitter.com/mrosenbaum711/statuses/350033192729837568">June 26, 2013</a></blockquote>

lol. Rosenbaum made for a great Luthor in Smallville, but he quit the show cause he got tired of playing Lex.

Whoever they cast, Lex ought to be a secondary villain to set him up as THE foe for Superman in the future.

[SidVish]

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I watched this last night and I thought it was pretty average. Out of all of the pretty recent superhero movies it was definitely my least favorite. I don't know what it was but I just couldn't get into it. It was boring and just repetitive. Maybe I'll watch it again. I don't know.

[Galvatron]

Re: Superman Man Of Steel

[quote=Happy29;2045178373]I agree with a lot of what you said. I plan to go see it again tomorrow. As far as being so much here they might not meet or exceed expectations in the sequel I'm thinking there was a couple of Easter eggs in there that might have hinted at

Spoiler

Brainiac showing up for it and that could be a pretty epic showdown itself

Yeah I could see them possibly going that direction with

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the Kryptonian technology left over from the aftermath,

and Lex Luthor getting his hands on it somehow. They could also go with Metallo, as a way to properly utilize Krytonite and still give him a powerful villain to face off with.

[bkrich83]

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Saw it last week, absolutely loved it. I am not one to nit pick movies for the sake of nit picking movies, particularly ones based on fantasy. So for me it was a fun and entertaining movie that I would see again.

[youvalss]

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Finally saw it last night. Loved the movie as a whole, but I still like CR as Superman better. He just had so much more presence and charisma, in my opinion.

It was weird during the movie: I felt like HC was very good in the scenes before wearing the suit and becoming Superman. But I didn't care for his acting once he became Superman. Don't know how to explain it.

Anyway, I just watched a little old clip from Superman 2 and Reeve just seemed better in any way.

But as a movie as a whole, Man of Steel is great. It's nice to have a good Superman movie again.