Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games & more discussion...

[JohnnytheSkin]

Re: IGN says PS3 might break you

The downscaling of DVD movie playback referenced above is only over non-secured connections...which is anything other than HDMI or DVI. This is done as standard by the movie industry to cut down on piracy, for about six months, until some pimply basement dweller develops a component video hack.

If you have HDMI or DVI, you will be able to view the movies at 720p/1080i and if the really want, 1080p (though that will probably just be deinterlaced 1080i). If PS3 does use Blu Ray as the native storage for their games, which isn't likely since the storage demands aren't there yet in the game industry, Sony will have to output over component, since most TV's manufactured over two years ago do not have either HDMI or DVI.

Make sense?

[Graphik]

Re: IGN says PS3 might break you

Just as with any console in the history of mankind, it's about the games, DAMN IT!

The only exception to that in recent years is the addition of online play, as that can play a determining factor in purchase decisions for some gamers.

Otherwise, it's all about the software, not the hardware.

Need proof? I present to you the 3DO, Dreamcast, Lynx, Jaguar and Sega 32X, all of which had superior hardware compared to their competitors and flopped like a freshly caught trout on the side of a stream.

It's about the games. Period.

Take care,
PK

Great post. Although I dont think Sony will have a problem with having quality games unlike the other consoles you mentioned. But as been mentioned, if devs dont tap into the capabilites of the blue ray space because of portability issues, then the PS3 could be a bust. 1st party titles are one area that may be covered but great first party games are a dime a dozen.

[countryboy]

Re: IGN says PS3 might break you

Just as with any console in the history of mankind, it's about the games, DAMN IT!

The only exception to that in recent years is the addition of online play, as that can play a determining factor in purchase decisions for some gamers.

Otherwise, it's all about the software, not the hardware.

Need proof? I present to you the 3DO, Dreamcast, Lynx, Jaguar and Sega 32X, all of which had superior hardware compared to their competitors and flopped like a freshly caught trout on the side of a stream.

It's about the games. Period.

Take care,
PK

Amen!

[APOC]

Re: IGN says PS3 might break you

The downscaling of DVD movie playback referenced above is only over non-secured connections...which is anything other than HDMI or DVI. This is done as standard by the movie industry to cut down on piracy, for about six months, until some pimply basement dweller develops a component video hack.

If you have HDMI or DVI, you will be able to view the movies at 720p/1080i and if the really want, 1080p (though that will probably just be deinterlaced 1080i). If PS3 does use Blu Ray as the native storage for their games, which isn't likely since the storage demands aren't there yet in the game industry, Sony will have to output over component, since most TV's manufactured over two years ago do not have either HDMI or DVI.

Make sense?

Will the PlayStation 3 output 16:9 or HD video?
Yes. In fact, the standard resolution for the system is 1080p. Yes, as in 1920x1080 progressive, not interlaced. 1080i, 720p, 480p and 480i are all supported as well, of course.

One of the system's more interesting features, however, is the ability to display two 16:9 images simultaneously through the dual HDMI outputs. That means that for the first time in console history, the PS3 can output with a panoramic view of 32:9 or display an entirely different screen that's still coming from a single source.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/636/636848p3.html

[burnwood]

Re: IGN says PS3 might break you

The downscaling of DVD movie playback referenced above is only over non-secured connections...which is anything other than HDMI or DVI. This is done as standard by the movie industry to cut down on piracy, for about six months, until some pimply basement dweller develops a component video hack.

If you have HDMI or DVI, you will be able to view the movies at 720p/1080i and if the really want, 1080p (though that will probably just be deinterlaced 1080i). If PS3 does use Blu Ray as the native storage for their games, which isn't likely since the storage demands aren't there yet in the game industry, Sony will have to output over component, since most TV's manufactured over two years ago do not have either HDMI or DVI.

Make sense?

Thanks for clarifying my point further. And to note again, this tactic to cut down on piracy affects HD-DVD and Blu Ray.

Again, to me, two over hyped technologies that aren't even standards. Neither technology will be a selling point for me.

[APOC]

Re: IGN says PS3 might break you

Thanks for clarifying my point further. And to note again, this tactic to cut down on piracy affects HD-DVD and Blu Ray.

Again, to me, two over hyped technologies that aren't even standards. Neither technology will be a selling point for me.

You know, there was talk that Sony was in talks with Toshiba to take Blu-Ray with HD-DVD and make them same format and market it as one. I for one would like to know why that didn't end up happening. Maybe Sony got greedy and thought they would be better off without them. And that was really the beginning of the whole HD-DVD/Blu-Ray debate. It may pay off huge in the long run, then again, could flop. I really want to get my hands on this stuff.

[RoyalBoyle78]

Re: IGN says PS3 might break you

Will the PlayStation 3 output 16:9 or HD video?
Yes. In fact, the standard resolution for the system is 1080p. Yes, as in 1920x1080 progressive, not interlaced. 1080i, 720p, 480p and 480i are all supported as well, of course.

One of the system's more interesting features, however, is the ability to display two 16:9 images simultaneously through the dual HDMI outputs. That means that for the first time in console history, the PS3 can output with a panoramic view of 32:9 or display an entirely different screen that's still coming from a single source.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/636/636848p3.html

WOW, why make the standard resolution 1080p, when there arent even many HDTV's out there with standard 1080p. Heck if you buy a HDTV right now with the Standard being 1080p, you will be paying a nice Buck$$ for the TV alone. SO why would you make 1080p the standard if you no that many TV's out there aren't native 1080p?

[sdrotar]

Re: IGN says PS3 might break you

Great post. Although I dont think Sony will have a problem with having quality games unlike the other consoles you mentioned. But as been mentioned, if devs dont tap into the capabilites of the blue ray space because of portability issues, then the PS3 could be a bust. 1st party titles are one area that may be covered but great first party games are a dime a dozen.

And that, my friend, is an excellent point.
Based on my discussions within the industry over the last year, you're going to see the reverse of what happened in the last/current gen - third-party games will be designed for the Xbox, as it's more straightforward to code for (and I know Sony devs who have told me so), and they'll be ported to the PS3.

Even if the PS3 has a huge technical advantage, a la the original Xbox over the PS2 - and a leap that large is unlikely given the brief lead time between the consoles - the PS3 might offer a third-party experience comparable to the Xbox/PS2 at the very most.

Would that be noticeable? Sure.
Would that be better for gamers? Of course.
Would that make people rush out and buy a new console if they had an Xbox 360 already? That's debatable - the original Xbox was significantly superior to the PS2 in nearly every discernable way, yet not everyone scrambled for the Xbox and left their PS2 to gather dust.

The PS3 will be a stunning success because of the casual gamer. As the two systems aren't going to be that much different to the naked eye, brand recognition is paramount. That's where Sony is sitting pretty.

But as PK noted, technological edge does not a winning product make.

The PS3 is about Blu-Ray, not games. Not to you and me, perhaps - but to the bean-counters at Sony, the PS3 is a high-definition DVD player that happens to play games, not the other way around. They've staked their company on it.

[Rocky]

Re: IGN says PS3 might break you

Just as with any console in the history of mankind, it's about the games, DAMN IT!

The only exception to that in recent years is the addition of online play, as that can play a determining factor in purchase decisions for some gamers.

Otherwise, it's all about the software, not the hardware.

Need proof? I present to you the 3DO, Dreamcast, Lynx, Jaguar and Sega 32X, all of which had superior hardware compared to their competitors and flopped like a freshly caught trout on the side of a stream.

It's about the games. Period.

Take care,
PK

Good post, but I would take out Dreamcast. I loved the games for that console.

[RoyalBoyle78]

Re: IGN says PS3 might break you

And that, my friend, is an excellent point.
Based on my discussions within the industry over the last year, you're going to see the reverse of what happened in the last/current gen - third-party games will be designed for the Xbox, as it's more straightforward to code for (and I know Sony devs who have told me so), and they'll be ported to the PS3.

Even if the PS3 has a huge technical advantage, a la the original Xbox over the PS2 - and a leap that large is unlikely given the brief lead time between the consoles - the PS3 might offer a third-party experience comparable to the Xbox/PS2 at the very most.

Would that be noticeable? Sure.
Would that be better for gamers? Of course.
Would that make people rush out and buy a new console if they had an Xbox 360 already? That's debatable - the original Xbox was significantly superior to the PS2 in nearly every discernable way, yet not everyone scrambled for the Xbox and left their PS2 to gather dust.

The PS3 will be a stunning success because of the casual gamer. As the two systems aren't going to be that much different to the naked eye, brand recognition is paramount. That's where Sony is sitting pretty.

But as PK noted, technological edge does not a winning product make.

The PS3 is about Blu-Ray, not games. Not to you and me, perhaps - but to the bean-counters at Sony, the PS3 is a high-definition DVD player that happens to play games, not the other way around. They've staked their company on it.

Great Post Shawn as always, I will most def give the PS3 a look, While I'm very, very happy with my 360. I also really have no interest with the PS3 at all. I will follow up your last line about how you summed up the PS3, I'll do that same for the 360 how I se it.

The 360 is all about Muliti Media/Online gaming, not DVD's. To all at Microsoft the 360 a High-Def/Power gaming console that play games has a great online service and happens to play DVD's, I also Think MS staked there company on it too.

[JohnnytheSkin]

Re: IGN says PS3 might break you

Will the PlayStation 3 output 16:9 or HD video?
Yes. In fact, the standard resolution for the system is 1080p. Yes, as in 1920x1080 progressive, not interlaced. 1080i, 720p, 480p and 480i are all supported as well, of course.

One of the system's more interesting features, however, is the ability to display two 16:9 images simultaneously through the dual HDMI outputs. That means that for the first time in console history, the PS3 can output with a panoramic view of 32:9 or display an entirely different screen that's still coming from a single source.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/636/636848p3.html

I know that Sony says that the native resolution of the set is 1080p. My post was merely referencing the stand alone players that will retail for both Blu Ray and HD DVD. They will only output true HD resolution (not the downscaled 980x540) through HDMI and DVI. I will be VERY interested to see if Sony somehow convinces the copy protection folks to output Blu Ray movies over component...if not, they will really face a backlash. Just think of the outcry if you buy the system, wanting high definition movies, and yet are not allowed to view them over your standard component connection (which I assume will be included in the box, much like the 360 premium came with component cables).

[backbreaker]

Re: IGN says PS3 might break you

APOC, do yourself a favor and let it go. XBOX360 is king aroung here, anything PS related in these here parts are underwhelming. The truth of the matter is X360 is a rushed console and even on its best day, its just alright.

[fishepa]

Re: IGN says PS3 might break you

Will the PlayStation 3 output 16:9 or HD video?
Yes. In fact, the standard resolution for the system is 1080p. Yes, as in 1920x1080 progressive, not interlaced. 1080i, 720p, 480p and 480i are all supported as well, of course.

One of the system's more interesting features, however, is the ability to display two 16:9 images simultaneously through the dual HDMI outputs. That means that for the first time in console history, the PS3 can output with a panoramic view of 32:9 or display an entirely different screen that's still coming from a single source.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/636/636848p3.html

Well that's terrific. That will be useful how?

[fishepa]

Re: IGN says PS3 might break you

APOC, do yourself a favor and let it go. XBOX360 is king aroung here, anything PS related in these here parts are underwhelming. The truth of the matter is X360 is a rushed console and even on its best day, its just alright.

Not really, just more marketing crap from Sony like always. We want to see games.

[RoyalBoyle78]

Re: IGN says PS3 might break you

APOC, do yourself a favor and let it go. XBOX360 is king aroung here, anything PS related in these here parts are underwhelming. The truth of the matter is X360 is a rushed console and even on its best day, its just alright.

This was a joke right?