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  • APOC
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    • Aug 2005
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    #571
    Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

    Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
    You are right, you never publically dogged the 360, only voted that your 360 failed at launch and needed repaired.

    How are those repairs coming along by the way?
    Dude, I thought you were a mod? Keep this on topic.

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    • ExtremeGamer
      Extra Life 11/3/18
      • Jul 2002
      • 35299

      #572
      Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

      Originally posted by APOC
      Exactly! Some people aren't gonna give a **** to be a hardcore online member with all the features , they just want to be able to play a game of Madden online for an hour before they head out the door to wherever. This way Sony is catering to their entire fanbase. The diehards wanting an Xbox Live type service get theirs (and then some) while the non-hardcores get their basic service and can play online whenever they want to as well. Everyone is happy.
      And that's fine, it's a great idea and will suceed. I personally like the idea, as I also liked the 2 SKU's for the XBox.

      But people are going to believe from the info they have heard that the full fledged "Live" experience is going to be free.

      Hell, if Sony can pull that off, that's a MAJOR trump card. But I think a lot of people are going to end up being disappointed.

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      • Klocker
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        • Jul 2003
        • 3239

        #573
        Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

        Evidently (and the smoke is still clearing) 3rd party devs have the final say as to charge (and how much) for certain games if they so choose.

        So SONY will be providing the software of friends list and whatnot and the game could still be fee based. Of course that wording could just be in there for MMOGs.

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        • ThaGenecyst
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          • Sep 2004
          • 4404

          #574
          Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

          Y even pay for online gaming if you'll be able to play online for free??
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          • cjonesfan921
            UGH, next year
            • Jan 2005
            • 20081

            #575
            Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

            Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
            And that's fine, it's a great idea and will suceed. I personally like the idea, as I also liked the 2 SKU's for the XBox.

            But people are going to believe from the info they have heard that the full fledged "Live" experience is going to be free.

            Hell, if Sony can pull that off, that's a MAJOR trump card. But I think a lot of people are going to end up being disappointed.
            I think the basic service just gives you the oppurtunity to play online. I believe the friends list and all that other stuff is included. I think the membership is probably for downloading demos or whatever. Instead of paying for every demo you download, you cna probably download as much as possible with that membership. While the basic users haveto pay for each demo. I think thats how it goes. I could've sworn I read that somewhere. I'll try to find it somewhere.

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            • Ice Cream Truck
              Money Makin' Sonny
              • Nov 2003
              • 2200

              #576
              Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

              Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
              You are right, you never publically dogged the 360, only voted that your 360 failed at launch and needed repaired.

              How are those repairs coming along by the way?
              1 Vote?

              Who does that affect? What does that affect? One vote on a user made poll, what will it do?

              You seem furious with those that are hype for PS3 and you're really quick to throw 360 in any discussion we have in this thread. Or defend it. No one is getting on 360 man, chill out.
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              • APOC
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                • Aug 2005
                • 525

                #577
                Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
                And that's fine, it's a great idea and will suceed. I personally like the idea, as I also liked the 2 SKU's for the XBox.

                But people are going to believe from the info they have heard that the full fledged "Live" experience is going to be free.
                What? I think the common customer will be able to distinguish which service is free and which one you pay for. It's not rocket science.

                Hell, if Sony can pull that off, that's a MAJOR trump card. But I think a lot of people are going to end up being disappointed.
                ......I think the only people who are going to be disappointed are the 360 fanboys wanting desperately for this thing to fail so their 360 purchase can be justified.

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                • Klocker
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                  • Jul 2003
                  • 3239

                  #578
                  Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                  Originally posted by ThaGenecyst
                  Y even pay for online gaming if you'll be able to play online for free??
                  Well I paid for Xbox 1 LIVE service and now in comparison to the 360 LIVE service.... I wouldn't pay for it. (the 360 features and integration are just so much more powerful)

                  so it's all in what services you prefer for an optimal experience. If Sony can provide a similar experience to X360 Live, then that's cool with me for free. .... but... that's a big IF.

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                  • ExtremeGamer
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                    • Jul 2002
                    • 35299

                    #579
                    Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                    Originally posted by cjonesfan921
                    I think the basic service just gives you the oppurtunity to play online. I believe the friends list and all that other stuff is included. I think the membership is probably for downloading demos or whatever. Instead of paying for every demo you download, you cna probably download as much as possible with that membership. While the basic users haveto pay for each demo. I think thats how it goes. I could've sworn I read that somewhere. I'll try to find it somewhere.
                    Basically no one knows. That would make sense. Charge for everything if you aren't a "member". So if Sony puts up movie trailers, demos, etc, you can get them free being a member or pay say $2.99 per demo or something. I could see that working.

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                    • APOC
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                      #580
                      Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                      Originally posted by ThaGenecyst
                      Y even pay for online gaming if you'll be able to play online for free??
                      Some people want extra features and will pay to support them, some people won't and will be content with just being able to play online for free. Everyone gets what they want. It's simple.

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                      • ExtremeGamer
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                        #581
                        Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                        Originally posted by APOC
                        What? I think the common customer will be able to distinguish which service is free and which one you pay for. It's not rocket science.



                        ......I think the only people who are going to be disappointed are the 360 fanboys wanting desperately for this thing to fail so their 360 purchase can be justified.
                        You think that huh? Ok...

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                        • APOC
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                          #582
                          Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                          Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
                          You think that huh? Ok...
                          I typed it didn't I?

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                          • Klocker
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                            • Jul 2003
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                            #583
                            Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                            Originally posted by APOC
                            ......I think the only people who are going to be disappointed are the 360 fanboys wanting desperately for this thing to fail so their 360 purchase can be justified.
                            what about those of us (X360 owners) that will also own a PS3 and just want the best experience possible on both machines?

                            I don't need to justify jack. I need them to justify it to me so I'll give them my money for their machine.

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                            • djordan
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                              • Nov 2005
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                              #584
                              Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                              GDC 2006: Phil Harrison PS3 Q&A
                              PS3 launch titles, hard drive, region free games, and more.
                              by Sam Kennedy, 03/22/2006
                              Following his keynote presentation at the Game Developers Conference, Phil Harrison invited select members of the press for a question and answer session over lunch. Below are some of the highlights from this session.

                              Question: There's been some question over whether the hard drive will indeed be included with the PS3. Can you confirm either way?

                              Phil Harrison: As head of the software studios I don't want to be the one comment on the hardware, but I'll say this: developers are all designing their games to support the hard drive. All of our games are absolutely using the hard drive.

                              Question: Considering that you are doing a worldwide launch, what sort of steps are you taking to ensure that there will be sufficient numbers of units available at launch?

                              PH: I'm in charge of the software studios, not the manufacturing plant, but as you can see from our history, Sony has been very good about supporting our hardware launches. Yes, some consumers will be disappointed, unfortunately. But our ramp-up of over 1 million units per month is the fastest we've ever had.

                              Question: Are you going to be at a competitive disadvantage with Xbox 360 having a full year head start on the PS3?

                              PH: We've actually never been the first platform to the market in what would be considered the generation shift. I think what you've seen today and in our previous announcements is that we have a tremendous powerful hardware coupled with an excellent software backing. We're not concerned.

                              Question: You've announced that you're going to soon offer PS1 games on the PSP via emulation. Will these titles see any sort of upgrades in the process?

                              PH: That's a good question, and I don't have any answers at this point. The PS3 is certainly going to offer high definition display when PS1 and PS2 games are played on it. Technically, it's possible, though the headroom is obviously less than what we can accomplish on the PS3.

                              Question: Are we going to see user generated content as part of the PlayStation Network?

                              PH: Absolutely. We believe the power of the network is a construct of the people within the network. We've never had that two way communication before and we're very excited about the possibilities.

                              Question: What do you see with downloadable content on PS3?

                              PH: I want to push beyond the traditional gameplay we see in retail. For example, we want to be offering downloadable episodic content, whether it's game, music, television - or perhaps some combination of those. The possibilities are endless.

                              Question: The PS2 was widely regarded as difficult to program for - will the PS3 be similar?

                              PH: One of the criticisms of the PS2 was that while it was very powerful, it was also to harness this power. I accept that it was difficult to program for. That came down to the proprietary nature of the processors - but when you compare that to the general nature of the PS3's processors, it becomes much easier to work with. You can use more general purpose programmers, for example. That's also being coupled with far better tools for the developers. Those two together mean that the developers can produce higher performance faster on the PS3.

                              Question: Why not offer more (or all) titles via digital download?

                              PH: There's no restrictions as to what you could offer to download to the PS3, but there's a big difference in the rollout of broadband in various countries. I think we'll see some markets with high distribution and thusly higher downloadable content offerings. But Blu-ray will be the primary distribution method for the triple a games that you will see on the PS3. As for how the eventual shift to downloads will happen, we aren't the ones to control that, the consumers will.

                              Question: Will the PlayStation Network also be available on other Sony products? Will you also be able to use micropayments for things other than games?

                              PH: With regard to the network platform, the focus is around the PS3, but shortly it will extend to the PSP. As it relates to formats that aren't part of the Sony Computer Entertainment fold, that's not currently part of the plan, but I see no reason why it couldn't extend into other areas. I see no reason why you couldn't use micropayments to pay for music or any other digital file.

                              Question: Would it be fair to assume that the titles you showed today are launch titles for the PS3?

                              PH: All of that will be answered at E3. It would be hard for me to speculate now, with the launch in November. I think it's fair to assume that the ones we showed you are going to be more advanced, though. In fact, that demo we showed of Resistance: The Fall of Man was created for a meeting in December; that code has been running since December. As you'll see at E3, you'll see some real innovations as they move onto the final hardware.

                              Question: Will the free PlayStation Network allow things like multiplayer gaming?

                              PH: While there will be content offerings that will be premium, we are aiming to have a free platform, so things like multiplayer gaming will be free. We have no plans to charge for that at the moment.

                              Question: Did you not show the new version of the PS3 controller because of the Immersion lawsuit?

                              PH: That has no impact on why we didn't show the controller. The controller will be revealed at E3.

                              Question: Are all models of the PS3 going to be region specific. What about the games?

                              PH: The thing that makes the games region free or not is different than what makes the hardware different. With the power voltage and things like that, the hardware will need to be specific to a region. Software, however, will be region free. It's possible for developers to put all the TV formats - PAL, NTSC, HDTV, and so on - on the disc.
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                              • APOC
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                                • Aug 2005
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                                #585
                                Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                                Originally posted by Klocker
                                what about those of us (X360 owners) that will also own a PS3 and just want the best experience possible on both machines?

                                I don't need to justify jack. I need them to justify it to me so I'll give them my money for their machine.
                                Online-If you want the best experience (I mean the absolute best), you'll want a paid membership to have all the features that have been announced thus far. As for the 360, I'm assuming you are already familiar with the Gold Membership, or am I assuming too much?

                                Offline-Well, there are about a million different websites/magazines/etc. with information about the PS3 and 360.



                                COME ON PEOPLE!!!

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