Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

[Rodster]

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Past and Prensent...

Alot of people seem to be living in past when it comes to Sony...Times change, companies change, Sony isn't incapable of changing and learning from their mistakes.

I've observed many of the comments on these boards and it seems everyone is holding Sony to their past actions..Which by the way aren't totally their fault; in business companies don't always reach their goals, so why knock Sony for doing what all other companies do?...Also back then Sony had no real incentive to follow through, online gaming wasn't nearly as popular, consoles hard drives etc... were unproven, basically they didn't take a risk.

Up until last week or so, people believed the delays,no hard drive,no online and Sony put all of that to bed...Some think they'll follow through, some think they won't... Sony isn't stupid, by making these announcements they put thier rep on the line, they will follow through.

Anyway companies learn from their mistakes, I'm pretty sure Sony will dilever...I'm no company exec but I'm pretty sure they know whats at stake..

OMGLMAO PS2king, the last time I checked no they haven't changed. They still like playing the shell game and running smack at their competitors namely Microsoft since they are not a J-Based company.

We still have vague references regarding the PS3 i.e. will the hard drive support in-game saves. Is the batman controller a thing of the past? And the hype machine is in full force once again by Sony that the PS3 will crush the the competition once it's released to market. They did the samething with the PS2.

IMO i'm not convinced one bit Sony has changed it's spots. I still plan on buying a PS3 but I still don't see any indication we are dealing with a kinder gentler Sony.

[ps2king]

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Not even going to argue, everything will play it self out

One common thing that I've seen in both PS3 threads here; people say all they want to play is GAMES on their consoles, they don't care about Blu-Ray etc... Well theres one thing Sony has a history of doing as well and thats delivering where it counts THE GAMES... They've never fallen short of their promises in that aspect.

[ExtremeGamer]

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One common thing that I've seen in both PS3 threads here; people say all they want to play is GAMES, they don't care about Blu-Ray etc... Well theres one thing Sony has a history of doing as well and thats delivering where it counts THE GAMES...

No one can argue that.

[ps2king]

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No one can argue that.

Can't blame you guys for being skeptical though, its no secret Sony talks big and doesn't always dielver...I'm just an optimist I guess

[ExtremeGamer]

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Can't blame you guys for being skeptical though, its no secret Sony talks big and doesn't always dielver...I'm just an optimist I guess

Nothing wrong with that.

[djordan]

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Good post wolveriens...I mean PS2king....

[ps2king]

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Good post wolveriens...I mean PS2king....

Yeah..........

[CaptainZombie]

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Not even going to argue, everything will play it self out

One common thing that I've seen in both PS3 threads here; people say all they want to play is GAMES on their consoles, they don't care about Blu-Ray etc... Well theres one thing Sony has a history of doing as well and thats delivering where it counts THE GAMES... They've never fallen short of their promises in that aspect.

You make a good point. All we can do is wait and see what SONY releases on the news front.

[Ice Cream Truck]

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New PS3 Online Details

Sony doesn't Dissapoint W/ Warhawk

Motorstorm Update

Sony Goes Digital

Resistance Update

There's more info at IGN. Doesn't look like IGN was disappointed at all with what they saw. I'm ready for some videos!

PS3 Online looks promising on the real. They didn't stray away from their free service, but at the same time added some great community features!

[countryboy]

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New PS3 Online Details

Sony doesn't Dissapoint W/ Warhawk

Motorstorm Update

Sony Goes Digital

Resistance Update

There's more info at IGN. Doesn't look like IGN was disappointed at all with what they saw. I'm ready for some videos!

PS3 Online looks promising on the real. They didn't stray away from their free service, but at the same time added some great community features!

thanks for the update and links IceCreamTruck. I too want to see videos.

[Ice Cream Truck]

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http://psp.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=2655

Every minute of the action.

1:57 - 1,000 people on screen each with all ragdoll like physics. Crowd applauds. Known as Ragdoll demo.
1:58 - Car Tech video shown. Physics change when a gun shoots at it. Individual paint chips. Crowd Roars. Tires pop and fall off. Video is not pre-rendered at all.
2:00 - Blu Ray provides tons of space, incredible animations and level of detail. Improved sound. Improved localization abilities given the extra space available. Worldwide launches of games increasingly possible.
2:02 - Warhawk tech demo shown. based off the real game.
2:03 - Crowd applauds, game looks amazing
2:04 - Ambient warfare is a key aspect. Hundred of fighters on a screen at once, think star wars space battles. Waves generated after each frame. Individual clouds rendered.
2:05 - Unlimited draw distance.
2:06 - Huge ships in Warhawk vs many small fighters.
2:07 - E3: full demo of Warhawk will be shown.
2:08 - Four basic principles of network, content, commerce, community, communication.
2:10 - Unified login capable as well as matchmaking, video and voice chat. Friends list. numerous shops where games can be bought. Download to hdd.
2:11 - Pay for online products on the network.

Very interesting stuff, they need to hurry up with my videos!

[countryboy]

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http://psp.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=2655

Every minute of the action.

Very interesting stuff, they need to hurry up with my videos!

Dang ICT and I thought that I was obsessed with the PS3. Great findings and keep up the good work.

[Ice Cream Truck]

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And this needed a post for itself. For all the doubters.

GDC 06: Blu-Ray Spotlight
Every language from all over the world, on one disc?
by Nix

March 22, 2006 - In its platform keynote address at GDC 2006 this morning, Sony Computer Entertainment talked more about the capabilities of the Blu-Ray platform and what it means to PS3.


The functionality of the Blu-Ray disc concentrated on size, as has in the past, but this time a realtime demonstration of what size might mean to the console was shown. Blu-Ray was said to promise 200 times more space for gaming than other platforms. With this much space, one global SKU (or version of the game) could be developed for all regions across the globe.

To show off PS3 and Blu-Ray, a demo from the makers of The Getaway was once again shown, in realtime on the system. Displaying London's Picadilly Circus in realtime, the system pulls data from the Blu-Ray disc to display all of the detail and data and population of the hotspot. As was mentioned at the PS3 business meeting earlier this week, other realtime world data could then be fed in to make that game cityscape real to the moment of London itself.

[Ice Cream Truck]

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Sony Worldwide Studios head Phil Harrison is currently delivering his Game Developers Conference keynote, entitled "PlayStation 3: Beyond the Box", revealing more of Sony's plans for PlayStation 3, which is due to launch worldwide in November.

We understand he began by making a reference to digital distribution, so there should be more on that soon. He started by, in the words of our correspondent, "banging on about PlayStation 2" - and David Jaffe joined him on stage to talk about God of War 2 (we've heard of it...) and show off a video. It's going to be playable at E3, and will be one of the games that ensures people play PS2 for ages after PS3 is out, says Harrison.

Moving onto PSP, Harrison reiterates what company head Ken Kutaragi said in Japan last week - that the next update will include RSS feeds and Shockwave Flash support, and that video messaging and a camera adapter are due in October. Also this October, PSP network downloads - as in games, although UMD releases will continue. So that's PSone content, as promised by Big Ken, downloadable from the Internet, but also original content too.
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Harrison also talks about connecting PSP to PS3 wirelessly, and how the former will be able to view PS3 content - video being a safe bet (and something our finger-frenzied San Franciscan correspondent might've done well to clarify for us eh?). LocoRoco video shown, too.

Now he's onto the PS3. And he's apologised for all that LOD/Loads of Ducks stuff from last year. To make up for it, he has a new demo from the team that did the ducks one - thousands of fish moving around underwater in shoals, with accurately modelled water, sunrays penetrating the surface, and so on. Moving on, he says PS3 production will ramp up faster than either PSone or PS2, and that the November launch includes Australia and Asia-outside-Japan, as expected. We've also heard that there'll be full 1080p resolutions for those who can handle them in both NTSC and PAL regions.

Continuing to intersperse the info we all want with demos and things, Harrison's now introducing a video of soldiers getting blown up and ragdolled around. There's also a demo from the SCEE London team of a highly detailed car model, which then gets mercilessly shot to pieces with all the bits modelled accurately. Apparently the bullet holes have realistically flaking paint, windows shatter, parts fall off as their bolts are shot out - and all this is from an unannounced game, he says.

And now he's onto Blu-ray, which many susp(wait a second! No time for commentary-commentary!)... for which he reckons the storage to system ratio is perfectly balanced. Presumably that's a dig at Microsoft's use of DVDs. Ducks! Ducks are funny! Blu-ray will allow publishers to launch games on a single disc for every global market, so one SKU for the whole world, Harrison adds.

ZOMG, a PS3 game! WarHawk is being demoed in real-time, according to our correspondent, with shots of flying through clouds, over the ocean, as hundreds of ships and missiles cluster around capital ships in the sky (WarHawk was one of the games shown in pre-rendered sequences at last year's E3, obviously). Naturally the producer then gets up and says how easy it was to develop for PS3, and that WarHawk will be playable at E3.

With WarHawk back on its perch, Harrison's moving on to "PlayStation Network Platform", which is an internal name. Starts by reiterating details announced in Tokyo last week, of how Sony is building a massive network and publishers can do their own thing if they really want to. Moving onto clarification of last week's info, he says that game applications can be launched direct from the hard disk - no disc required. Total digital distribution is possible.

Then the crowd's shown work-in-progress pictures of the network system, with video chat windows overlaid on games - much like the stuff shown at E3, by the sound of it. Emails and so on can be sent without leaving a game, like on Xbox 360. Next up it's online shops within MotorStorm and F1, integrated with the graphical style of those games so that people can download new cars, tracks and so on. There's a lot of Xbox Live esque functionality being shown, including pop-up notification windows.

This ought to be a good acid test for crowd reaction - apparently a real-time MotorStorm demo is on display. MotorStorm was one of the most controversial of the E3 videos last year, but early reports from our man (yes, it is a man) suggest that there's plenty of mud flying around and dust going everywhere, HDR effects and highly detailed visuals. Hmm, mud-slinging... Wheels leave wet mud trails which are persistent, says Harrison; as they dry out, they change the contours of the ground and mess with your suspension realistically. Vehicles get dirty from the mud, with wet spray that dries over time (it's all very hair-drier-fun-time, isn't it?), and, naturally, we're to expect more at E3.

Then it's onto a new Insomniac Games FPS, Resistance: Fall of Man, featuring lots of aliens, clever weapons (our man says), although not a lot of environmental physics apparently. We'll see. At E3. Whee. "One thing that's interesting," says our man as we FOOLISHLY start to quote him directly, "is having some weapons which use physics stuff on the SPUs." What?

[Waves at Gaming Age Forum] Hi guys!

Another Insomniac demo, non-interactive. A fantasy world - "very like the city in Fifth Element" says our man despite our pleas for him not to editorialise. "Flying cars, huge baroque skyscrapers." Baroque eh? Ooh I read a book once la-di-dah! And then a ship floats past with the Ratchet & Clank logo on it, apparently.

Digital distribution is a major change for our industry, says Harrison, and talking about it will be a big deal at GDCs for years to come. There's a new initiative afoot to launch online-only PSP and PS3 content developed by SCE Studios. There's even a website for it: www.playstation.com/beyond. Ooh look, so there is! "Partnerships resulting from EDI [E-Distribution Initiative] will allow the developers' downloadable games to be published for individual purchase or subscription over SCE's direct distribution methods," it says.

Singstar's next on the agenda, and finally there's talk of downloadable tracks via the Internet; also customisable backdrops, the ability to store videos and photos within Singstar and share with the community - it's all about turning Singstar PS3 into "a next generation experience".

And that's your lot! Following a video of Singstar PS3, Harrison leaves the stage. Thanks for reading/putting up with all this/hi Mum.

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=63535

[APOC]

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It won't be free. Look at what you posted, even in there says it won't be free.

Key words, subscription, micropayment, selling item by item.

Yes, the basic service is free. I'm surprised you didn't know that there was more than one type of service.