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  • RoyalBoyle78
    Aka."Footballforever"
    • May 2003
    • 23918

    #526
    Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

    Originally posted by APOC
    I never thought I'd see the day, but I agree with Football. This is a day to go down in the great books of OS.
    LOL.....
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    • APOC
      Banned
      • Aug 2005
      • 525

      #527
      Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

      For the sake of this thread, I swear it won't happen again.

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      • countryboy
        Growing pains
        • Sep 2003
        • 52798

        #528
        Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

        Originally posted by fishepa
        Enough of this everyone...
        letting it go
        I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

        I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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        • countryboy
          Growing pains
          • Sep 2003
          • 52798

          #529
          Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

          Originally posted by APOC
          Actually I can't exactly pre-order yet, just like everyone else. I should have said I am on a few different PS3 lists at 3 places instead. I'm paying them off in full as soon as they start taking money.
          cool and its yeeeeeeehawwwww

          I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

          I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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          • Ice Cream Truck
            Money Makin' Sonny
            • Nov 2003
            • 2200

            #530
            Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

            Originally posted by LIGHTNING
            Sony must find a way to recover some costs. What better way than to make consumers buy memory cards for game saves. I know this does not make sense from our perspective, but Sony cares about making money. Of course Sony has been vague and they may not be sure themselves.
            Umm... The PS3 Shop maybe?

            There is no way this information is true. I'm not in denial, there is just no way. How will you download new content then? It won't fit on the memory card.
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            • luv_mist
              Older
              • May 2004
              • 9596

              #531
              Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

              Originally posted by Ice Cream Truck
              Umm... The PS3 Shop maybe?

              There is no way this information is true. I'm not in denial, there is just no way. How will you download new content then? It won't fit on the memory card.
              Maybe the HD won't be usable in the gameplay portion but probably usable in the downloading portion. Hey, it's so crazy, it might work, but I'm pretty darn sure that it's not like the PS2 crap they tossed out. I'm still ticked off that they took me for a big sucker like that. Worst investment of my life. Still burning hot from that one.

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              • LIGHTNING
                MVP
                • Jul 2002
                • 1610

                #532
                Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                Originally posted by Ice Cream Truck
                Umm... The PS3 Shop maybe?

                There is no way this information is true. I'm not in denial, there is just no way. How will you download new content then? It won't fit on the memory card.

                You will be able to download content, but maybe not save games with the HDD.

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                • LIGHTNING
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 1610

                  #533
                  Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                  One problem with Sony's online service that is "supposedly superior to XBOX LIVE" is if the developers are not getting paid to provide multiplayer online gaming, what is the incentive for the developer to provide a quality service? Would you work hard for your employer if you were not paid? Would you work for free? This is why the PS2 online service is inferior and it does not seem this will change. There is an old saying that you generally get what you pay for and it is usually true in the real world.

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                  • APOC
                    Banned
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 525

                    #534
                    Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                    Originally posted by LIGHTNING
                    You will be able to download content, but maybe not save games with the HDD.
                    Games saves will be stored on the hard drive. Anything else you need answered?

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                    • APOC
                      Banned
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 525

                      #535
                      Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                      Originally posted by LIGHTNING
                      One problem with Sony's online service that is "supposedly superior to XBOX LIVE" is if the developers are not getting paid to provide multiplayer online gaming, what is the incentive for the developer to provide a quality service? Would you work hard for your employer if you were not paid? Would you work for free? This is why the PS2 online service is inferior and it does not seem this will change. There is an old saying that you generally get what you pay for and it is usually true in the real world.

                      PlayStation Network Platform
                      From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlaySta...twork_Platform

                      PlayStation Network Platform is the online service to be provided for use with the Sony PlayStation 3 video game console.

                      It's currently in development by Sony Computer Entertainment (SCE) Europe with the Sony Online Entertainment. Parts of PNP will incorporate the Central Station (already working in Europe) and a possible integration with Connect.com marketplace.


                      --Services--

                      On March 15 at the 2006 PlayStation Business Briefing, Sony confirmed that they are preparing for an Xbox Live-like online service named PlayStation Network Platform (PNP).

                      The full list of planned services for the PlayStation Network Platform is as follows.

                      Communication/Community:

                      Account created through user registration
                      Lobbies/Matchmaking
                      Scores/Ranking
                      Game data upload/download
                      Presence/Friend List/Avatar
                      Voice/Video Chat
                      Messaging

                      --Commerce--

                      Shops (can be accessed from inside games)
                      Content Download
                      Game boot from HDD
                      Subscription
                      Selling item by item
                      Micropayment
                      Entitlement Management

                      --Account--

                      User Registration
                      Login ID/Handlename issue

                      --Comparison to Xbox Live--

                      Unlike Xbox Live, a similar service provided for the Microsoft Xbox and Xbox 360 consoles, the PlayStation Network Platform will allow licensees to connect their own game servers to the network. SCE will provide a common infrastructure for the service, but the PNP will use the standard Internet.

                      Also unlike Xbox Live, Sony will offer a PNP "basic" service that will be like the Xbox Live Silver service, except it will offer many more features including voice/video chat, messaging, ranking and service updates for games. Where Sony's basic service has a leg up on Xbox Live Silver is the ability for gamers to play multiplayer games online for free, unlike Xbox Live which requires you to pay for a "Gold" subscription card.




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                      • ExtremeGamer
                        Extra Life 11/3/18
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 35299

                        #536
                        Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                        It won't be free. Look at what you posted, even in there says it won't be free.

                        Key words, subscription, micropayment, selling item by item.

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                        • ps2king
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                          • Jul 2002
                          • 1508

                          #537
                          Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                          Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
                          It won't be free. Look at what you posted, even in there says it won't be free.

                          Key words, subscription, micropayment, selling item by item.
                          The entire service won't be free, but with the "basic" setup users do get to play online for free and have a username/friends list, free of charge.

                          Sony- "no fee for playing multiplayer "

                          Crucially, the basic service will allow users to play games online - a factor which sets it apart from Microsoft's equivalent free service, Xbox Live Silver, which enables community features and content purchases, but doesn't allow users to play multiplayer online games.




                          I'm sure there will be other packages besides basic

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                          • ExtremeGamer
                            Extra Life 11/3/18
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 35299

                            #538
                            Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                            Originally posted by ps2king
                            The entire service won't be free, but with the "basic" setup users do get to play online for free and have a username/friends list, free of charge.

                            Sony- "no fee for playing multiplayer "






                            I'm sure there will be other packages besides basic
                            So, if there's a pay for play service, what would that entail if you can do everything for free as it is? Like I said, I'll believe it when I see it, I've dealt with Sony's propaganda for years, I still remember when Sony launched the PS2 online, claiming it would have AIM built in amongst other add ons. None of that ever happened.

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                            • ps2king
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                              • Jul 2002
                              • 1508

                              #539
                              Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                              Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
                              So, if there's a pay for play service, what would that entail if you can do everything for free as it is? Like I said, I'll believe it when I see it, I've dealt with Sony's propaganda for years, I still remember when Sony launched the PS2 online, claiming it would have AIM built in amongst other add ons. None of that ever happened.
                              Past and Prensent...

                              Alot of people seem to be living in past when it comes to Sony...Times change, companies change, Sony isn't incapable of changing and learning from their mistakes.

                              I've observed many of the comments on these boards and it seems everyone is holding Sony to their past actions..Which by the way aren't totally their fault; in business companies don't always reach their goals, so why knock Sony for doing what all other companies do?...Also back then Sony had no real incentive to follow through, online gaming wasn't nearly as popular, consoles hard drives etc... were unproven, basically they didn't take a risk.

                              Up until last week or so, people believed the delays,no hard drive,no online and Sony put all of that to bed...Some think they'll follow through, some think they won't... Sony isn't stupid, by making these announcements they put thier rep on the line, they will follow through.

                              Anyway companies learn from their mistakes, I'm pretty sure Sony will dilever...I'm no company exec but I'm pretty sure they know whats at stake..

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                              • ExtremeGamer
                                Extra Life 11/3/18
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 35299

                                #540
                                Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                                Originally posted by ps2king
                                Past and Prensent...

                                Alot of people seem to be living in past when it comes to Sony...Times change, companies change, Sony isn't incapable of changing and learning from their mistakes.

                                I've observed many of the comments on these boards and it seems everyone is holding Sony to their past actions..Which by the way aren't totally their fault; in business companies don't always reach their goals, so why knock Sony for doing what all other companies do?...Also back then Sony had no real incentive to follow through, online gaming wasn't nearly as popular, consoles hard drives etc... were unproven, basically they didn't take a risk.

                                Up until last week or so, people believed the delays,no hard drive,no online and Sony put all of that to bed...Some think they'll follow through, some think they won't... Sony isn't stupid, by making these announcements they put thier rep on the line, they will follow through.

                                Anyway companies learn from their mistakes, I'm pretty sure Sony will dilever...I'm no company exec but I'm pretty sure they know whats at stake..
                                I agree, Sony has a lot at stake. They've burned their bridges with me long ago, but I hope they pull off everything they said at that press conference. Even if they don't, and half of it is lies or half-truths, the PS3 will still sell a boat load and will be the #1 system on name alone. I have no doubts to that. I'm also not trying to bash the system, I never have, I'm just trying to state the other side of the info they have released.

                                Once E3 hits, and we see an actual PS3, with actual games running, we'll all be able to really know what's going on. Sony is a smart company, they know what's at stake, they are going to keep as much info as they can close to their hip, so I'm curious to what else they have up their sleeve, or have they already thrown down the Ace of Spades?

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