Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

[APOC]

Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

Past and Prensent...

Alot of people seem to be living in past when it comes to Sony...Times change, companies change, Sony isn't incapable of changing and learning from their mistakes.

I've observed many of the comments on these boards and it seems everyone is holding Sony to their past actions..Which by the way aren't totally their fault; in business companies don't always reach their goals, so why knock Sony for doing what all other companies do?...Also back then Sony had no real incentive to follow through, online gaming wasn't nearly as popular, consoles hard drives etc... were unproven, basically they didn't take a risk.

Up until last week or so, people believed the delays,no hard drive,no online and Sony put all of that to bed...Some think they'll follow through, some think they won't... Sony isn't stupid, by making these announcements they put thier rep on the line, they will follow through.

Anyway companies learn from their mistakes, I'm pretty sure Sony will dilever...I'm no company exec but I'm pretty sure they know whats at stake..

I can't believe I missed this post. Very good. Very good, indeed.

[HMcCoy]

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Sony has lied, repeatedly, and if you don't care, that's cool, but that doesn't change the facts.

Just 2 weeks ago, Sony plainly refuted delay rumors and loudly proclaimed that they were still on schedule for a Spring launch. That was only 2 weeks "in the past" Sony also vehemently stated that their E3 presentation was all gameplay footage. Now, it's "uhhh, did we say in-game?"

Sony says HDD is included, then others in the company say it may be *required*, then Kutaragi makes cryptic comments, which are both supported and refuted by Sony thenselves. Pro Sony media outlets say hooray, it's in...only to retract the statements the next day. They don't even know whats happening in their own comany!? WTF? Have you ever heard of a company making a comment about a controller being mandatory to play games? Of course not, because that's freaking obvious...and if the HD was 100% guranteed out of the box, Kenny K would come out and clearly say it, the world would celebrate, and it would be a non-issue.Why? Because it's use would be obvious, not up for debate or speculation. But once again we get vague innuendo:

kotaku: HDD still not confirmed

I've even seen articles reflecting that the late arrival of the compilers may limit the number of games at launch, and that they could very well appear subpar in comparison to 360's 2nd gen.

Gamespot Link

Arstechnica Link

Mark my words, a world-wide PS3 launch will be a cataclysmic meltdown. Not. Enough. Systems. You think MS had supply problems with just one strong-ish (US) market? Try satisfying 3 voracious markets with even less product to go around.

I'm getting a Ps3 reguardless, but Sony's tactics to this point have been shameful. (Back to Oblivion)

[Rodster]

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Sony has lied, repeatedly, and if you don't care, that's cool, but that doesn't change the facts.

Just 2 weeks ago, Sony plainly refuted delay rumors and loudly proclaimed that they were still on schedule for a Spring launch. That was only 2 weeks "in the past" Sony also vehemently stated that their E3 presentation was all gameplay footage. Now, it's "uhhh, did we say in-game?"

Sony says HDD is included, then others in the company say it may be *required*, then Kutaragi makes cryptic comments, which are both supported and refuted by Sony thenselves. Pro Sony media outlets say hooray, it's in...only to retract the statements the next day. They don't even know whats happening in their own comany!? WTF? Have you ever heard of a company making a comment about a controller being mandatory to play games? Of course not, because that's freaking obvious...and if the HD was 100% guranteed out of the box, Kenny K would come out and clearly say it, the world would celebrate, and it would be a non-issue.Why? Because it's use would be obvious, not up for debate or speculation. But once again we get vague innuendo:

kotaku: HDD still not confirmed

I've even seen articles reflecting that the late arrival of the compilers may limit the number of games at launch, and that they could very well appear subpar in comparison to 360's 2nd gen.

Gamespot Link

Arstechnica Link

Mark my words, a world-wide PS3 launch will be a cataclysmic meltdown. Not. Enough. Systems. You think MS had supply problems with just one strong-ish (US) market? Try satisfying 3 voracious markets with even less product to go around.

I'm getting a Ps3 reguardless, but Sony's tactics to this point have been shameful. (Back to Oblivion)

Very well stated and yes I agree back to Oblivion

[Erv]

Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

Sony has lied, repeatedly, and if you don't care, that's cool, but that doesn't change the facts.

Just 2 weeks ago, Sony plainly refuted delay rumors and loudly proclaimed that they were still on schedule for a Spring launch. That was only 2 weeks "in the past" Sony also vehemently stated that their E3 presentation was all gameplay footage. Now, it's "uhhh, did we say in-game?"

Sony says HDD is included, then others in the company say it may be *required*, then Kutaragi makes cryptic comments, which are both supported and refuted by Sony thenselves. Pro Sony media outlets say hooray, it's in...only to retract the statements the next day. They don't even know whats happening in their own comany!? WTF? Have you ever heard of a company making a comment about a controller being mandatory to play games? Of course not, because that's freaking obvious...and if the HD was 100% guranteed out of the box, Kenny K would come out and clearly say it, the world would celebrate, and it would be a non-issue.Why? Because it's use would be obvious, not up for debate or speculation. But once again we get vague innuendo:

kotaku: HDD still not confirmed

I've even seen articles reflecting that the late arrival of the compilers may limit the number of games at launch, and that they could very well appear subpar in comparison to 360's 2nd gen.

Gamespot Link

Arstechnica Link

Mark my words, a world-wide PS3 launch will be a cataclysmic meltdown. Not. Enough. Systems. You think MS had supply problems with just one strong-ish (US) market? Try satisfying 3 voracious markets with even less product to go around.

I'm getting a Ps3 reguardless, but Sony's tactics to this point have been shameful. (Back to Oblivion)

And sure Sony is going to pull crap once and a while.

Just a couple of things for MS...backwards compatibility deception(not to mention excluding games like DOA:U so you have to buy the similar sequel), overpricing accessories beyond reason.

Or rushing out Halo 2 so it doesn't clash with the 360 launch.

MS also

less product then the 360? Wow.

[Flawless]

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Some small pics from the Sony keynote

http://plusd.itmedia.co.jp/games/articles/0603/23/news077.html

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[RoyalBoyle78]

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I'm not denying that. It's just the way I feel.

We know you LOve Sony, and we all know you want them to be the best, but let the system come out before you think you know it's the better system. You said that you have nothing against MS, but how can you think the PS3 will be better when you haven't even spent time with the 360, unless you really spent time the the 360, I mean real time, not an hour, there now was you could just say that the PS3 will be better. Thats why people get on you about the things you say, your not very opened minded.

[Rodster]

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I honestly thought you were joking at first. This is insane. You can't prove anything.

Apoc's response was classic like someone who got caught with his hands in the cookie jar.

BKRich makes a good point about people who take their brand loyalty a little too far.

[RoyalBoyle78]

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found a pic of Apoc.......He look s a bit blury....It's him though......LOL

[RoyalBoyle78]

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found a pic of Apoc.......He looks a bit blury....I'm sure It's him though......LOL...He even got his fist clinched for anyone who says the word MS....LOL

[Rodster]

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Yup that's him alright.

Classic FF

[Rodster]

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I must say that PS3 in that color (Black?) does look pretty cool. It almost has a mirrored finish. I wonder if that's just for display purposes or if the Black PS3 will look like that?

They really need to lose the Spiderman 2 font it looks dorky.

[bkrich83]

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I must say that PS3 in that color (Black?) does look pretty cool. It almost has a mirrored finish. I wonder if that's just for display purposes or if the Black PS3 will look like that?

They really need to lose the Spiderman 2 font it looks dorky.

Agreed. If anything it's a good looking machine.

[ESPNdeportes]

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Agreed. If anything it's a good looking machine.

I just dunno about that controller......

[Rodster]

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I just dunno about that controller......

It looks like the original boomerang controller. Supposedly the new will not be shown until E3.

[ESPNdeportes]

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It looks like the original boomerang controller. Supposedly the new will not be shown until E3.

Cool....I didn't even know they were putting out a different controller. IMO, its gonna be tough to top the 360 controller.