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  • Blzer
    Resident film pundit
    • Mar 2004
    • 42509

    #7651
    Re: Uncommon Opinions

    Again, today's music is affecting a lot of bands that I already love. They realize they have to sell out to sell at all. If they aren't infusing this pop-based sound into their music, they aren't trying hard enough to draw fans. The problem isn't a matter of: "This always happens and is nothing new," the problem is everything is starting to sound the same. It is affecting multiple genres (rock and as someone else already mentioned even country), and it is unavoidable in the mainstream culture.

    I never said that it is impossible (or hard) to find decent music today, I have no problem doing that. But if you want to have something hit FM, get instantaneous multi-million views on YouTube, be nominated at the Grammy's, be featured on iTunes, appear as a follow-up track on Pandora, or anything of that accord, you have to cater to today's trend of that pop influence.

    When you find that one extremely alternative song on YouTube from the late 90s and you find a top comment that says: "They don't make music like this anymore," it's because you would be hard-pressed to find one that the masses have heard since they simply aren't exposed anymore as they used to. Those bands that even played those songs before have evolved into something far different. There is absolutely nothing wrong with evolving, but in an attempt at catering toward something that will detract your original fanbase and doing it with full intent despite what it is you want to do as a band, then there is a problem.

    A band like Lifehouse, for example, caught that they were trending toward this other sound and slammed on the brakes so they could find something closer to what they sounded like when they first came out. Even with that new album their sound has evolved, but that genre and feel was still there and didn't alienate their fanbase in any sort of way.
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    • ImTellinTim
      YNWA
      • Sep 2006
      • 33028

      #7652
      Uncommon Opinions

      Originally posted by DamnYanks2
      Y'all are getting too defensive over all the ****ty music they are putting out these days.

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      Nope just telling people to stop expecting music to be fed to them and find things they like. It’s not that hard. Don’t like a new album from your favorite band? Don’t listen to that album, listen to something else.

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      • NolanRyansSnowmonkey
        MVP
        • Jun 2016
        • 1354

        #7653
        Re: Uncommon Opinions

        Originally posted by Blzer
        Again, today's music is affecting a lot of bands that I already love. They realize they have to sell out to sell at all... The problem isn't a matter of: "This always happens and is nothing new," the problem is everything is starting to sound the same.
        Can i just quote this for without leaving a comment?

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        • Blzer
          Resident film pundit
          • Mar 2004
          • 42509

          #7654
          Re: Uncommon Opinions

          Originally posted by ImTellinTim
          Nope just telling people to stop expecting music to be fed to them and find things they like. It’s not that hard. Don’t like a new album from your favorite band? Don’t listen to that album, listen to something else.
          I'm sure one of your favorite sports teams has made a move, or even a series of moves, that you disagreed with to the point that you made a public a statement about it and wished they could be undone because they worsened your team as a result. Should you just begin cheering for another team?

          There is a sense of comfort, familiarity, loyalty, and support that people have with things they love. It could be bands, sports teams, TV shows and movie franchises, celebrities, car companies, restaurants, etc. Sometimes it's hard to turn people to another item even if it meets your wants and needs because it falls into an unknown territory. It takes a while to adjust. There is always room and want for expansion of one's arsenal, but it's also good to have certain fallbacks.

          As far as music, I'm not saying I have ever gone to say a Daughtry concert, but what if I liked the material I heard in their first few albums enough to want to go? You think I would want to go now? Suddenly the setlist will be filled with crap I don't want to hear, even though every so often I'll hear something great of old from them. Or maybe that artist spoke to me in a certain way because of what they wrote and how they wrote it, and I felt I always felt inspired by them. To be wronged about their true inner-workings and see that they are as shallow as the rest of them makes my investment in them feel almost like a wasted effort.

          There is much more to this than: "Can't find a song you like? Find another one." Even that is becoming rarer and rarer these days for the limited amount of music that appeals to me. I despise anything rap, hip-hop, and in many cases pop as well. It does not mesh with me, like at all. That's all that mainstream music is now, regardless of genre. It is unavoidable, and I am a bit fearful that this will stay for quite a long while. There's a reason why I have a lot riding on what impact Grace VanderWaal can have in her hopefully nonconforming music career.

          I'm starting to realize my opinion is a lot more uncommon than I initially thought it was.
          Last edited by Blzer; 08-04-2018, 11:36 PM.
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          • NolanRyansSnowmonkey
            MVP
            • Jun 2016
            • 1354

            #7655
            Re: Uncommon Opinions

            Originally posted by ImTellinTim
            Nope just telling people to stop expecting music to be fed to them and find things they like. It’s not that hard. Don’t like a new album from your favorite band? Don’t listen to that album, listen to something else.

            The problem is, it IS fed to us. All. The. Time. Lol.
            Everywhere you go. Jeez Louise.

            You cant tune it out. Thats the point. Its everywhere.

            What good does it do to tell people what not to expect? Speaking of expectations, what in the world did you expect here? Like you suggested....Don't like uncommon opinions? Don't come to an Uncommon Opinions thread. :wink:

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            • Caulfield
              Hall Of Fame
              • Apr 2011
              • 10986

              #7656
              Re: Uncommon Opinions

              Originally posted by ImTellinTim
              . Don’t like a new album from your favorite band? Don’t listen to that album, listen to something else.
              you wont know if you dont like it if you dont listen to it
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              • ImTellinTim
                YNWA
                • Sep 2006
                • 33028

                #7657
                Re: Uncommon Opinions

                Comparing sports and music is a pretty bad analogy for a number of reasons, which is another tangent.

                But anyway, my whole argument this entire time is that it's easier to avoid mainstream trends than ever before. If you want to pine for the glory days before your favorite band "sold out" or whatever, that's a you problem. Chalk it up to the game and move on. There are dozens upon dozens of bands doing the same type sound your favorite band used to do if you're talking about the likes of Daughtry and Lifehouse.

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                • NolanRyansSnowmonkey
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2016
                  • 1354

                  #7658
                  Re: Uncommon Opinions

                  Originally posted by ImTellinTim
                  But anyway, my whole argument this entire time is that it's easier to avoid mainstream trends than ever before.
                  The only problem with that arguement is it is completely wrong. I almost feel like my last post didn't go through...

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                  • ImTellinTim
                    YNWA
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 33028

                    #7659
                    Re: Uncommon Opinions

                    Originally posted by NolanRyansSnowmonkey
                    The only problem with that arguement is it is completely wrong. I almost feel like my last post didn't go through...
                    Well, I think you're completely wrong, so here we are again.

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                    • NolanRyansSnowmonkey
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2016
                      • 1354

                      #7660
                      Re: Uncommon Opinions

                      Originally posted by ImTellinTim
                      Well, I think you're completely wrong, so here we are again.
                      Since i am somehow (who in the world knows how...) wrong, yet its on every TV show, every movie, every place of business, other people's radios, talk radio, commercials, sporting events, video games, podcasts, and "hold" music on telephones. Can you please give me suggestions as to how to keep from hearing it incessantly, short of shutting myself in my closet or bringing my own headphones?

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                      • Blzer
                        Resident film pundit
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 42509

                        #7661
                        Re: Uncommon Opinions

                        Originally posted by NolanRyansSnowmonkey
                        Since i am somehow (who in the world knows how...) wrong, yet its on every TV show, every movie, every place of business, other people's radios, talk radio, commercials, sporting events, video games, podcasts, and "hold" music on telephones. Can you please give me suggestions as to how to keep from hearing it incessantly, short of shutting myself in my closet or bringing my own headphones?
                        I think what ITT does mean (and I'll agree with him here) is when it comes to active choice of listenership. If I want to find something on my own accord, there are many venues to seek them out, be it the Internet (which includes Spotify) or satellite radio.

                        In terms of avoiding it altogether, no I do not believe that to be possible. Especially for someone like me who teaches high school.
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                        • NolanRyansSnowmonkey
                          MVP
                          • Jun 2016
                          • 1354

                          #7662
                          Re: Uncommon Opinions

                          Originally posted by Blzer
                          I think what ITT does mean (and I'll agree with him here) is when it comes to active choice of listenership. If I want to find something on my own accord, there are many venues to seek them out, be it the Internet (which includes Spotify) or satellite radio.

                          In terms of avoiding it altogether, no I do not believe that to be possible. Especially for someone like me who teaches high school.
                          Yeah you would think so, but since we've all said that same thing, it cant be what he means. Otherwise we would have agreed the first time we said it

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                          • ImTellinTim
                            YNWA
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 33028

                            #7663
                            Re: Uncommon Opinions

                            Originally posted by NolanRyansSnowmonkey
                            Since i am somehow (who in the world knows how...) wrong, yet its on every TV show, every movie, every place of business, other people's radios, talk radio, commercials, sporting events, video games, podcasts, and "hold" music on telephones. Can you please give me suggestions as to how to keep from hearing it incessantly, short of shutting myself in my closet or bringing my own headphones?
                            Oh man, I didn't realize you were just talking about like everyday life background music. That's super easy to tune out for me. *shrugs* I thought we were talking about procuring music that you want to listen to.

                            On your game, you can turn off songs on the soundtrack if you want. If you can't handle the other stuff, then yeah, invest in some good ear buds.

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                            • NolanRyansSnowmonkey
                              MVP
                              • Jun 2016
                              • 1354

                              #7664
                              Re: Uncommon Opinions

                              Originally posted by ImTellinTim
                              Oh man, I didn't realize you were just talking about like everyday life background music. That's super easy to tune out for me. *shrugs* I thought we were talking about procuring music that you want to listen to.

                              On your game, you can turn off songs on the soundtrack if you want. If you can't handle the other stuff, then yeah, invest in some good ear buds.
                              To use your tone...

                              "Oh man," I have said it Over and Over and Over and Over lol. Guess I'm just as easy to tune out for you as background music *shrugs* i thought you were reading all the posts. (really? Shrugs?)

                              Come on man, bottom line you came to the uncommon opinions thread to argue. If someone was looking to dispute someone, this thread screams 'pick me'. People will state opinions here that you dont agree with more often than not. How about just say "hey i disagree, i like today's popular music!" Instead of, "thats a you problem not a today's music problem."

                              I have also said several times that you can find good music if you look for it. And i have done just that.

                              This is the first opinion I stated. "I think when "today's music" is mentioned, it means the overwhelming vast majority of readily available music. Better music can be found by knowing where to look"

                              Holy Toledo. Lol

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                              • TheShizNo1
                                Asst 2 the Comm Manager
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 26341

                                #7665
                                Re: Uncommon Opinions

                                No. Just, no lol. I have never heard someone say that they can't stand everyday background music (I'm assuming this is stores and restaurants etc). Usually when someone has the today's music is trash argument it's bashing a genre here and there and the back in my day argument follows it. Your last statement doesn't mean what you think to others that have their music "readily" available for them on their phone.

                                My man then conceded the debate once he realized he misunderstood you and you couldn't even take that lol.

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