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  • countryboy
    Growing pains
    • Sep 2003
    • 52828

    #1921
    Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

    Originally posted by jfsolo
    There is a zero percent chance that any state government that loosens restrictions will give truthful numbers about the increase in cases and deaths as a result of that decision. They are incentivized to be dishonest. Health care workers in those states will have to tell the real story. Of course, all information will still be filtered by most people through the ideological perspective that one already has.
    Ok

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    I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

    I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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    • Fresh Tendrils
      Strike Hard and Fade Away
      • Jul 2002
      • 36131

      #1922
      Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

      Originally posted by jfsolo
      There is a zero percent chance that any state government that loosens restrictions will give truthful numbers about the increase in cases and deaths as a result of that decision. They are incentivized to be dishonest. Health care workers in those states will have to tell the real story. Of course, all information will still be filtered by most people through the ideological perspective that one already has.
      C'mon.

      Only China does that.



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      • mestevo
        Gooney Goo Goo
        • Apr 2010
        • 19556

        #1923
        Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

        Originally posted by KSUowls
        Someone in my neighborhood Facebook group posted about how it is time to reopen the economy, posting a link to an OP-ed which cites the non peer reviewed Stanford study that was mentioned here a couple pages ago.

        I only put this on here to warn about the spread of misinformation in our communities which may encourage people to think things arent so bad.

        We should hope for the best, but until wider studies are done these things are no better than anecdotal evidence (just like the malaria drug that was being touted originally).

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        related: Maryland sends out emergency alert after receiving more than 100 calls on consuming disinfectant, governor's office says.

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        • Cardot
          I'm not on InstantFace.
          • Feb 2003
          • 6164

          #1924
          Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

          Originally posted by NYJets
          Bad news about Remdesivir:
          https://www.bbc.com/news/world-52406261
          Let's see how the Lysol trials go.

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          • bigfnjoe96
            Hall Of Fame
            • Feb 2004
            • 11410

            #1925
            Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

            Originally posted by Cardot
            Let's see how the Lysol trials go.
            Don't forget those bleach pills coming out of Trump University!

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            • steelerfan
              MVP
              • Jun 2003
              • 4350

              #1926
              Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

              Originally posted by bigfnjoe96
              Don't forget those bleach pills coming out of Trump University!

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              It's not bleach. They are sunlight pills. Get it right! [emoji849]

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              • Jr.
                Playgirl Coverboy
                • Feb 2003
                • 19171

                #1927
                Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

                Originally posted by steelerfan
                It's not bleach. They are sunlight pills. Get it right! [emoji849]
                I'm glad I'm in Denver.. some of the highest UV levels in the country! I'm invincible!!
                My favorite teams are better than your favorite teams

                Watch me play video games

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                • countryboy
                  Growing pains
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 52828

                  #1928
                  Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

                  Indiana governor re-affirmed yesterday that the plan is to lift the stay at home order and start opening back up on May 1st.
                  I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                  I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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                  • Master Live 013
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 12430

                    #1929
                    Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

                    No evidence that people who had coronavirus are immune from second infection, WHO warns.
                    The World Health Organization is warning that people who have had coronavirus are not necessarily immune by the presence of antibodies from getting the virus again.

                    “There is no evidence yet that people who have had Covid-19 will not get a second infection,” the WHO said in a new scientific brief.

                    The WHO is warning against governments issuing “immunity passports” to people who have had Covid-19, assuming they are safe to resume normal life.

                    “At this point in the pandemic, there is not enough evidence about the effectiveness of antibody-mediated immunity to guarantee the accuracy of an 'immunity passport' or 'risk-free certificate,'" the brief said.

                    The WHO published the brief as guidance on adjusting public health and social measures for the next phase of the COVID-19 response.

                    “People who assume that they are immune to a second infection because they have received a positive test result may ignore public health advice. The use of such certificates may therefore increase the risks of continued transmission," the WHO said.
                    The health agency says it is reviewing evidence on antibody responses to SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19-infection. The brief says “most” of the studies show that people who have “recovered from infection have antibodies to the virus.”

                    But as of yesterday, no study has “evaluated whether the presence of antibodies to SARS-CoV-2 confers immunity to subsequent infection by this virus in humans.
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                    • Master Live 013
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 12430

                      #1930
                      Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

                      "Immunity passports" in the context of COVID-19.

                      Scientific Brief

                      24 April 2020

                      WHO has published guidance on adjusting public health and social measures for the next phase of the COVID-19 response.1 Some governments have suggested that the detection of antibodies to the SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, could serve as the basis for an “immunity passport” or “risk-free certificate” that would enable individuals to travel or to return to work assuming that they are protected against re-infection. There is currently no evidence that people who have recovered from COVID-19 and have antibodies are protected from a second infection.

                      The measurement of antibodies specific to COVID-19

                      The development of immunity to a pathogen through natural infection is a multi-step process that typically takes place over 1-2 weeks. The body responds to a viral infection immediately with a non-specific innate response in which macrophages, neutrophils, and dendritic cells slow the progress of virus and may even prevent it from causing symptoms. This non-specific response is followed by an adaptive response where the body makes antibodies that specifically bind to the virus. These antibodies are proteins called immunoglobulins. The body also makes T-cells that recognize and eliminate other cells infected with the virus. This is called cellular immunity. This combined adaptive response may clear the virus from the body, and if the response is strong enough, may prevent progression to severe illness or re-infection by the same virus. This process is often measured by the presence of antibodies in blood.

                      WHO continues to review the evidence on antibody responses to SARS-CoV-2 infection.2-17 Most of these studies show that people who have recovered from infection have antibodies to the virus. However, some of these people have very low levels of neutralizing antibodies in their blood,4 suggesting that cellular immunity may also be critical for recovery. As of 24 April 2020, no study has evaluated whether the presence of antibodies to SARS-CoV-2 confers immunity to subsequent infection by this virus in humans.

                      Laboratory tests that detect antibodies to SARS-CoV-2 in people, including rapid immunodiagnostic tests, need further validation to determine their accuracy and reliability. Inaccurate immunodiagnostic tests may falsely categorize people in two ways. The first is that they may falsely label people who have been infected as negative, and the second is that people who have not been infected are falsely labelled as positive. Both errors have serious consequences and will affect control efforts. These tests also need to accurately distinguish between past infections from SARS-CoV-2 and those caused by the known set of six human coronaviruses. Four of these viruses cause the common cold and circulate widely. The remaining two are the viruses that cause Middle East Respiratory Syndrome and Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome. People infected by any one of these viruses may produce antibodies that cross-react with antibodies produced in response to infection with SARS-CoV-2.

                      Many countries are now testing for SARS-CoV-2 antibodies at the population level or in specific groups, such as health workers, close contacts of known cases, or within households.21 WHO supports these studies, as they are critical for understanding the extent of – and risk factors associated with – infection. These studies will provide data on the percentage of people with detectable COVID-19 antibodies, but most are not designed to determine whether those people are immune to secondary infections.

                      Other considerations


                      At this point in the pandemic, there is not enough evidence about the effectiveness of antibody-mediated immunity to guarantee the accuracy of an “immunity passport” or “risk-free certificate.” People who assume that they are immune to a second infection because they have received a positive test result may ignore public health advice. The use of such certificates may therefore increase the risks of continued transmission. As new evidence becomes available, WHO will update this scientific brief.
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                      • NYJets
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 18637

                        #1931
                        Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

                        My understanding of that report is its saying they don't know enough about any immunity, not that there's evidence or a likelihood that there isn't some sort of immunity. Most of the experts feel its extremely likely theres immunity to some degree but they still don't know does everyone get it, even if you had an extremely mild case, and how long it might last for. So people should still be cautious.
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                        • roadman
                          *ll St*r
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 26339

                          #1932
                          Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

                          A few positive signs from Wisconsin:

                          1) Hospitalization rate fell 2% this week
                          2) Our county's mortality rate also dropped 2% this week.

                          The only blemish is our positive tests went way up this week because of three meat packing plants near Green Bay, but also the testing has increased, which is also considered good news.

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                          • TheMatrix31
                            RF
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 52928

                            #1933
                            Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

                            Oh, the WHO is warning.

                            Well, we better listen to those guys.

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                            • bcruise
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 23274

                              #1934
                              Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

                              Originally posted by TheMatrix31
                              Oh, the WHO is warning.

                              Well, we better listen to those guys.
                              Today they actually walked back some of that warning. Or at least softened it, saying they believe most people will develop some immunity, but the extent is unknown.

                              Also, apparently the CDC is now including headaches as one of the symptoms. Had this current set of symptoms been in place in mid-March, I would have been looking to get tested about 2 weeks before the lockdowns began. At that time I was feeling everything except the shortness of breath (and fortunately never had that).

                              I don't know what to listen to or believe anymore - as my state prepares to open back up on May 4.

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                              • JHamilton9
                                '94 World Series MVP
                                • May 2014
                                • 645

                                #1935
                                Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

                                Originally posted by TheMatrix31
                                Oh, the WHO is warning.

                                Well, we better listen to those guys.



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