2020-2021 English Football Thread

[Krebstar]

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and that Leicester fan that was confrontational.

I think that was actually Jamie Vardy. Only explanation.

[Brahvocado]

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haha years ago I was a **** on forums but I learned to realize it's all in good fun now. Plus, as a Spurs fan it's pretty hard to deny the fact we are absolute bottlers all the time. Still love them but will never have faith in winning a big match.

The great thing about these forums is that everything is all in good fun. There's nearly endless trash talk but nobody ever really gets actually angry about it.

Probably one of my favorite places on the internet.

[ImTellinTim]

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we had that other Spurs fan for awhile, but they were very combative


and that Leicester fan that was confrontational.

“Combative and confrontational”, for those who don’t live in Minnesota, means “utter *******s that no one likes.”

But hey they had their chances.

[BunnyHardaway]

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That one Spurs guy made me look sane

[Brahvocado]

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That one Spurs guy made me look sane

He nearly made the Leicester guy look sane lmao

[Keirik]

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Honestly though, what Ole said isn’t even remotely wrong. Son should be embarrassed. So should 3/4 of the Premier league these days though so there’s that.

[stlducks]

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Honestly though, what Ole said isn’t even remotely wrong. Son should be embarrassed. So should 3/4 of the Premier league these days though so there’s that.

My problem with it is that a manager shouldn’t be calling out players on other teams unless he’s going to call out his own for it. Rashford rolls around a lot, Bruno is the biggest faker in the league, Pogba was telling players to dive...

I agree 80% of players do it and it’s embarrassing but unless Ole is going to call out his guys, he needs to stop calling out others.

[Keirik]

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My problem with it is that a manager shouldn’t be calling out players on other teams unless he’s going to call out his own for it. Rashford rolls around a lot, Bruno is the biggest faker in the league, Pogba was telling players to dive...

I agree 80% of players do it and it’s embarrassing but unless Ole is going to call out his guys, he needs to stop calling out others.

Meh. I don’t know one manager that won’t defend his own players but I do see your point. Still think what he said was pretty spot on though lol.

[Suntan Superman]

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I agree 80% of players do it and it’s embarrassing but unless Ole is going to call out his guys, he needs to stop calling out others.

I understand what you're trying to say, but this just isn't how the world works, nor will it ever work this way, I'd imagine. Sure we'd all love to see it, but the expectation that any manager is gonna come out and call out their own player for diving just isn't a realistic proposition.

[KG]

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I think at this point in VAR’s interpretation by the Prem that managers would probably encourage diving/going down easy behind closed doors.

The reward just outweighs the risk.

I know Chelsea fans use to scream at Hazard for staying on his feet too often. He was always near the top of the list for most fouled but if they counted all the advantages he played through his fouled #’s would have been crazy


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[Keirik]

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I called out Rashford as well. The thing though about Son to me that makes it so criminal is that not only did he go down but he stayed down. Not just a few seconds. Minutes. 34th minute it happens.... Play went on. Still down not moving....Pass...pass....through ball...cavani...goal...still down like he was dead....celebrating....still not moving....arguing....still down....review.....still down getting treatment....36th minute......

I mean, it’s one thing to try and win a call. It’s another to act like you are horribly injured , win the call, get up finally, and score minutes later. You’d think he lost an eye there.

[Brahvocado]

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My problem with it is that a manager shouldn’t be calling out players on other teams unless he’s going to call out his own for it. Rashford rolls around a lot, Bruno is the biggest faker in the league, Pogba was telling players to dive...

I agree 80% of players do it and it’s embarrassing but unless Ole is going to call out his guys, he needs to stop calling out others.

Pogba wasn't wrong though lol.

Diving is rewarded far more often than it is punished, no reason to stop diving until they actually start punishing it.

Also Bruno is up there but Son is right there with him. In terms of overall cheating, Kane and Son are pretty easily worse than Fernandes.

Anyway, surely the biggest faker in the league is Alioski?

[Keirik]

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Pogba wasn't wrong though lol.

Diving is rewarded far more often than it is punished, no reason to stop diving until they actually start punishing it.

Also Bruno is up there but Son is right there with him. In terms of overall cheating, Kane and Son are pretty easily worse than Fernandes.

Anyway, surely the biggest faker in the league is Alioski?

Theres also a little bit of a difference between flat out cheating and being the type that holds the ball in a way where contact is the only way you are getting the ball. Guys like Bruno or Sadie Mane, or even Grealish are very good at doing that exactly and generating the free kick.


Now I 1000000% agree that there really needs to be punishments for cheating and until there is, it will never end.

[stlducks]

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I understand what you're trying to say, but this just isn't how the world works, nor will it ever work this way, I'd imagine. Sure we'd all love to see it, but the expectation that any manager is gonna come out and call out their own player for diving just isn't a realistic proposition.

I get that, I don't expect a manager to ever call out their own player so managers should just stop talking about it then. You can't mention Son being a cheater when your top players do it. It's just a bad look. Best way is to just ignore it and behind the scenes try getting the league to have VAR be involved to try eliminating the acting.

[stlducks]

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Pogba wasn't wrong though lol.

Diving is rewarded far more often than it is punished, no reason to stop diving until they actually start punishing it.

Also Bruno is up there but Son is right there with him. In terms of overall cheating, Kane and Son are pretty easily worse than Fernandes.

Anyway, surely the biggest faker in the league is Alioski?

Son I agree with. He has been worse about it since Jose arrived so I'm not sure if that is connected in some way or just Son trying to change with the league.

Kane I think gets too much attention for it. He dives but most of the time he is doing it to win a free kick to hold up play like most big strikers do. I remember when Ian Wright praised him last year for his ability to hold up the ball and draw a foul to slow the game down and win Spurs a FK. I have no issue with that and going down easy, if the ref calls it then so be it.

It's the diving when there is zero contact that bugs me the most. I hope VAR is involved more on those type of calls.