whosnext00's Madden 17 All-Pro Realism Sliders + Explained

[iFnotWhyNoT]

I'm enjoying these sliders but my only problem is the false start penalties. Not how many but how it happens. The cpu qb will hard count and the cpu o line always false starts. And it happens 2-3 times consecutively always ending up with a huge loss in downs. Have u experienced this or is it just an anomaly im seeing?

[NolanRyansSnowmonkey]

Hi, i've been playing coach mode with these sliders. I noticed you said you did your testing cpu-vs-cpu so i figured these would be perfect. I call every play, but let the computer play it out. I super sim all kicking plays on slow and watch them in broadcast mode. The games have been fun, but i havent lost a game yet. Granted ive only played 3 preseason games, and 2 regular season games (the 4th preseason game i did lose but was strictly using all backups and playing around with presnap adjustments and experimenting with plays)


Dak Prescott is my QB on the Cowboys and hes playing out if his mind for a rookie. Completing a high percentage every game and only two interceptions that came on jump balls in the end zone. I do not cheese.

My time of posession is also basically twice my opponent in each of my 5 games.

I was running 8 minute quarters in preseason but only getting about 96 plays per game. Switched to 12 minutes with accel clock and getting 125 plays per game. But still getting similar stats. (I know youre not concerned much with amount of plays but thought i would throw this in)

Vs. Rams [Preseason week 1] - T.O.P. 23:36 - 12:32. Prescott 21-32 (65%) 277yds 2 TD 0 INT
Vs. Dolphins [Preseason 2] - T.O.P. 22:15 - 13:18. Prescott 23-28 (82%) 190yds 1 TD 0 INT
Vs. Seattle [Preseason 3] - T.O.P. 20:19 - 11:41. Prescott 14-22 (63%) 159yds 0 TD 0 INT
Vs. Giants [Regular 1] - T.O.P. 31:20 - 16:38. Prescott 22-29 (75%) 270yds 2 TD 1 INT
Vs. Redskins [Regular 2] - T.O.P. 30:55 - 17:05. Prescott 21-29 (72%) 301yds 3 TD 1INT

Prescott didnt play full games in Preseason.
The Redskins game was a domination.

Eli Manning was 23-32 (71%) 225 yds 1TD 0 INT. they had 75 rushing yards.
K. Cousins was 21-29 (72%) 325 yds 3TD 1 INT. they had 58 rushing yards.
(* most of Cousins yards came trying to play catchup in the 2nd half while down 38-17, with me playing a soft zone. They finally scored their 3rd TD when it was already too late in the 4th Quarter)

I guess im wondering what everyone's thoughts are on this. Is cpu vs cpu that much different than coach mode or playing standard? Definitely seems like i have the advantage in every game. But all QBs seem to have high completion ratings every game.

My goal has always been to have the most realistic games as possible. Ive used your sliders in the past and loved them and i know they are grrat this year also, based on feedback. Maybe coach mode and CPU vs CPU run differently and i need a different set of sliders? Maybe its just varience and will even out eventually?

Would appreciate any thoughts to help me understand the difference, as well as suggestions for sliders to achieve the best results. (I know there are other slider sets but this set seemed to have much better feedback from users.) Thanks!

[queenie.paula]

Quote: Originally Posted by iFnotWhyNoT

I'm enjoying these sliders but my only problem is the false start penalties. Not how many but how it happens. The cpu qb will hard count and the cpu o line always false starts. And it happens 2-3 times consecutively always ending up with a huge loss in downs. Have u experienced this or is it just an anomaly im seeing?

Quote: Originally Posted by NolanRyansSnowmonkey

Hi, i've been playing coach mode with these sliders. I noticed you said you did your testing cpu-vs-cpu so i figured these would be perfect. I call every play, but let the computer play it out. I super sim all kicking plays on slow and watch them in broadcast mode. The games have been fun, but i havent lost a game yet. Granted ive only played 3 preseason games, and 2 regular season games (the 4th preseason game i did lose but was strictly using all backups and playing around with presnap adjustments and experimenting with plays) Dak Prescott is my QB on the Cowboys and hes playing out if his mind for a rookie. Completing a high percentage every game and only two interceptions that came on jump balls in the end zone. I do not cheese. My time of posession is also basically twice my opponent in each of my 5 games. I was running 8 minute quarters in preseason but only getting about 96 plays per game. Switched to 12 minutes with accel clock and getting 125 plays per game. But still getting similar stats. (I know youre not concerned much with amount of plays but thought i would throw this in) Vs. Rams [Preseason week 1] - T.O.P. 23:36 - 12:32. Prescott 21-32 (65%) 277yds 2 TD 0 INT Vs. Dolphins [Preseason 2] - T.O.P. 22:15 - 13:18. Prescott 23-28 (82%) 190yds 1 TD 0 INT Vs. Seattle [Preseason 3] - T.O.P. 20:19 - 11:41. Prescott 14-22 (63%) 159yds 0 TD 0 INT Vs. Giants [Regular 1] - T.O.P. 31:20 - 16:38. Prescott 22-29 (75%) 270yds 2 TD 1 INT Vs. Redskins [Regular 2] - T.O.P. 30:55 - 17:05. Prescott 21-29 (72%) 301yds 3 TD 1INT Prescott didnt play full games in Preseason. The Redskins game was a domination. Eli Manning was 23-32 (71%) 225 yds 1TD 0 INT. they had 75 rushing yards. K. Cousins was 21-29 (72%) 325 yds 3TD 1 INT. they had 58 rushing yards. (* most of Cousins yards came trying to play catchup in the 2nd half while down 38-17, with me playing a soft zone. They finally scored their 3rd TD when it was already too late in the 4th Quarter) I guess im wondering what everyone's thoughts are on this. Is cpu vs cpu that much different than coach mode or playing standard? Definitely seems like i have the advantage in every game. But all QBs seem to have high completion ratings every game. My goal has always been to have the most realistic games as possible. Ive used your sliders in the past and loved them and i know they are grrat this year also, based on feedback. Maybe coach mode and CPU vs CPU run differently and i need a different set of sliders? Maybe its just varience and will even out eventually? Would appreciate any thoughts to help me understand the difference, as well as suggestions for sliders to achieve the best results. (I know there are other slider sets but this set seemed to have much better feedback from users.) Thanks!

its not the sliders cause im not getting this, I think its just how organic everyones games are, im 4-1 with very close games so I could easily be 2-3,


all games were low scoring except my last one against kc who could of kept it close if it weren't for their punter always doing short high kicks, one of which I returned for 6,


since I pluged these sliders in ive had to restart only one game and that's cause smith only threw for 19 yards by the end of the half and I didn't like that


penalties for me are good too



if you guys see too much unrealistic stuff happening then try restarting the game or end the game and back out of CFM and reloud it, that has always helped me

[whosnext00]

Quote: Originally Posted by queenie.paula

so far im 3-1 or 4-1 I cant remember as the saints and and so im on the road with kc, I started the game pretty ok, but no score on my part so I punted and alex smith hits the field and hes horrible, by almost the end of the half he only had 19 yards passing and like 2 running so I exited the game and started over, so far this games going better, ya ever had to do that with these sliders WHOSNEXT?

lol yes that's kind of the point of these sliders, "any given sunday". If you just played that game through, that production wouldn't have stuck. Just like in the NFL, every game is different, every quarter and every half is different. You could get 19 yard passing one half then 300 the next, that's football folks.

[whosnext00]

Quote: Originally Posted by iFnotWhyNoT

I'm enjoying these sliders but my only problem is the false start penalties. Not how many but how it happens. The cpu qb will hard count and the cpu o line always false starts. And it happens 2-3 times consecutively always ending up with a huge loss in downs. Have u experienced this or is it just an anomaly im seeing?

I have not experienced that problem with this set. What mode are you playing and do you have Accessibility settings on?

[whosnext00]

Quote: Originally Posted by NolanRyansSnowmonkey

Hi, i've been playing coach mode with these sliders. I noticed you said you did your testing cpu-vs-cpu so i figured these would be perfect. I call every play, but let the computer play it out. I super sim all kicking plays on slow and watch them in broadcast mode. The games have been fun, but i havent lost a game yet. Granted ive only played 3 preseason games, and 2 regular season games (the 4th preseason game i did lose but was strictly using all backups and playing around with presnap adjustments and experimenting with plays) Dak Prescott is my QB on the Cowboys and hes playing out if his mind for a rookie. Completing a high percentage every game and only two interceptions that came on jump balls in the end zone. I do not cheese. My time of posession is also basically twice my opponent in each of my 5 games. I was running 8 minute quarters in preseason but only getting about 96 plays per game. Switched to 12 minutes with accel clock and getting 125 plays per game. But still getting similar stats. (I know youre not concerned much with amount of plays but thought i would throw this in) Vs. Rams [Preseason week 1] - T.O.P. 23:36 - 12:32. Prescott 21-32 (65%) 277yds 2 TD 0 INT Vs. Dolphins [Preseason 2] - T.O.P. 22:15 - 13:18. Prescott 23-28 (82%) 190yds 1 TD 0 INT Vs. Seattle [Preseason 3] - T.O.P. 20:19 - 11:41. Prescott 14-22 (63%) 159yds 0 TD 0 INT Vs. Giants [Regular 1] - T.O.P. 31:20 - 16:38. Prescott 22-29 (75%) 270yds 2 TD 1 INT Vs. Redskins [Regular 2] - T.O.P. 30:55 - 17:05. Prescott 21-29 (72%) 301yds 3 TD 1INT Prescott didnt play full games in Preseason. The Redskins game was a domination. Eli Manning was 23-32 (71%) 225 yds 1TD 0 INT. they had 75 rushing yards. K. Cousins was 21-29 (72%) 325 yds 3TD 1 INT. they had 58 rushing yards. (* most of Cousins yards came trying to play catchup in the 2nd half while down 38-17, with me playing a soft zone. They finally scored their 3rd TD when it was already too late in the 4th Quarter) I guess im wondering what everyone's thoughts are on this. Is cpu vs cpu that much different than coach mode or playing standard? Definitely seems like i have the advantage in every game. But all QBs seem to have high completion ratings every game. My goal has always been to have the most realistic games as possible. Ive used your sliders in the past and loved them and i know they are grrat this year also, based on feedback. Maybe coach mode and CPU vs CPU run differently and i need a different set of sliders? Maybe its just varience and will even out eventually? Would appreciate any thoughts to help me understand the difference, as well as suggestions for sliders to achieve the best results. (I know there are other slider sets but this set seemed to have much better feedback from users.) Thanks!

It sounds like your using the old set. check out the new one

[NolanRyansSnowmonkey]

Youre right, i was using the old set of sliders. I must have input those sliders right before you updated them. Didnt even occur to me they might have changed. Thanks!

Ill report back with some updates.

[queenie.paula]

im 10-2 so far, im not really liking that because I shouldn't be 10-2, my defense should be worse then it is, right now im ranked 1 against the run and maybe top 5 in pass and im not cheesing it to be better, what can I change in the sliders to make it more on the cpu side? their run blocking and my pass reaction?