HoF ballot released...

[Stroehms]

Quote: Originally Posted by EnigmaNemesis

ROFL I know what you mean ... I actually wore one when I was doing a piece for old school baseball gear ... and let me tell you ... the padding around the rim was great, though hard to catch if you were not dead on ... but if you caught with it dead center ... OUCH! So I dunno how those guys could have sustained constant 90+ MPH pitches back then.

And I bet they thought that the baseball technology back then was outstanding. lol.

Btw, I bet Babe Ruth hit a homerun off of a spit-baller

[EnigmaNemesis]

Quote: Originally Posted by stroehmerbasebal

And I bet they thought that the baseball technology back then was outstanding. lol. Btw, I bet Babe Ruth hit a homerun off of a spit-baller

Well considering he was drunk most of the time like ones would say, that was impressive enough within itself to hit one.

Guy pops 60 HRs with a handicap ... and our guys pop over 60 on the juice with a few occasional meatballs.

[rsox]

Interestingly Mark McGwire is the only player to ever lead the majors in Home Runs in one season without leading a league.

[Stroehms]

Quote: Originally Posted by EnigmaNemesis

Well considering he was drunk most of the time like ones would say, that was impressive enough within itself to hit one. Guy pops 60 HRs with a handicap ... and our guys pop over 60 on the juice with a few occasional meatballs.

Lol. Agreed.

"Did we just become bestfriends?"

[SportsTop]

Quote: Originally Posted by YankeePride

I guess for me, I never cared much about the steroids/enhancements/whatever for McGwire because I don't consider him a Hall of Famer. I don't see anything that great about his career with the exception of hitting close to 600 homeruns. Maybe if he had other great talents, but he didn't. If your one talent is hitting homeruns and you couldn't even get to the 600+ mark, then were you really that great to begin with? I can't say so.

You just described Reggie Jackson to a "T".

In fact, looking at their numbers they may as well be the same player.

[EnigmaNemesis]

Quote: Originally Posted by Squint

You just described Reggie Jackson to a "T". In fact, looking at their numbers they may as well be the same player.

*steps away from thread ... slowly*

[Tomahawk]

Quote: Originally Posted by Squint

You just described Reggie Jackson to a "T". In fact, looking at their numbers they may as well be the same player.

Or Harmon Killibrew or Willie McCovey.

[CMH]

Yep. Killebrew was basically a homerun hitter. Reggie Jackson at least was an extra-base hits hitter along with the homeruns. McCovey the same.

If they retired today, I would feel the same way. The only reason why anyone would defend them today is because of era.

So, if era means a lot to you then you can consider that. But, it always comes down to the era.

Looking at the names, I won't lie that it would be hard for me to say, "No, way, they aren't Hall of Famers." But, I stand by my point and I won't let what's been put hard into my head affect my thinking.

If those names were eligible today, I wouldn't vote for them.

edit: Obviously, I'm ignoring fielding in this decision. I didn't see them field and I can't trust any fielding stat so I don't know how I could really determine that. If memory serves me right, McCovey was considered a very good fielder or at least above average. I guess that's to his benefit and I would have to consider that. Since he was also a better hitter than Jackson, Killebrew, and McGwire, I would probably only let him in as I consider him the greater of the four named.