09:11 PM - April 25, 2008 by AirLobo23 News Post
09:11 PM - April 25, 2008 by AirLobo23NCAA Football 09 Videos
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I don't see EA moving to a Euphoria type engine which is unfortunate. However, I still think there are enough things that could be improved with this engine to make NCAA a truly great game. Just think of the things that most people are complaining about: INTs, CPU QB AI, passing pocket, presentation. These things were good on the PS2 (whether for NCAA or 2K games) so there is NO reason these things can't be good on a PS3/360. They don't need a new engine to fix them - just better programming.
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Please note the bold part I highlighted in the above quote. This is the problem. We all know this game will be the same as last year with a few minor upgrades in the graphic's department. We will still complain about the lack of features the game will not have, yet some of you are still going to support EA by giving them your money. I really don't understand this thinking. If you buy a product and you're not happy with it, why in hell will you buy it again? Take a year off and make a statement, let EA see their sales drop and force them to do better.
I want a great realistic football game, NCAA and NFL, I really do, but if we all just keep buying this crap we will never get what we are looking for. Lets face facts , no other company is ever going to be able to give us an official NCAA or NFL football game, it's all on EA, they will most likely own the rights to the licenses forever and that's sad. But, if we keep supporting them nothing will change.
I can already feel myself being sucked in after seeing the Madden 09 trailer. I love football,. I watch 6 games at once during football season on my multi-TV Direct TV set up. I crave football video games. But how can I justify buying a new EA football game after the past 4 years of disappointment? The truth is I can't. This year I will rent both NCAA and Madden 09 instead of buying them on launch day. I know the millions of diehard fans will run right out and buy the game so my post here is worthless, but I wish just one year all the NCAA and Madden players would just step back and take a year off.
Then we'd get a football game.
End Rant.
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therizing02 @ 04/28/08 11:00 AM
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Peter Moore has recently stated (about Madden) that his feedback from the general public was that the game was too hard or the ability to just pick it up and play was kind of difficult. He sees this as a problem. It would be reasonable to assume that the future of EA's games will be dumbed down from a difficulty standpoint so the casual gamer (the most important demographic to EA) can buy it and play it right out of the box. More casual gamers=more money for EA.
The casual gamer picks up the game, looks at the back of the box, sees the great pics, looks at the features, and says "wow this is going to be great." Buys the game, pops into the machine, and starts a game with his favorite team/alma mater. "Holy ****, they have the (choose team) stadium, and the mascot, and the fight song. This is very realistic." Do you think this guy notices any recruiting glitches? Depth chart problems? The ridiculous Super Sim feature? No pocket for QB? The pathetic CPU QB AI? Hell no!
Unfortunately, those are the most important customers to EA. Not us.
^^This guy has a point.
I think its pretty sad that people are like, "the lighting looks great!". Ok....im playing NCAA football, not Luigi's Mansion. The lighting is a factor, but if its a selling point, then count me out. The stadiums are upscaled and we know this because after every play there is a stadium shot instead of some form or presentation, lol. All of these "new" animations and we can't even get a ref on the field that will run and pick up the ball, but we can go over and dance with the mascot? NCAA is no longer for the hardcore fans, because just like the Wii, it is trying to attract casual gamers. What does that mean for us? Well....when you sign online to play expect people running around for 49 seconds and then launching the ball deep every time because they are "casual" and just want to have fun. Bee-Yeet!
I think its pretty sad that people are like, "the lighting looks great!". Ok....im playing NCAA football, not Luigi's Mansion. The lighting is a factor, but if its a selling point, then count me out. The stadiums are upscaled and we know this because after every play there is a stadium shot instead of some form or presentation, lol. All of these "new" animations and we can't even get a ref on the field that will run and pick up the ball, but we can go over and dance with the mascot? NCAA is no longer for the hardcore fans, because just like the Wii, it is trying to attract casual gamers. What does that mean for us? Well....when you sign online to play expect people running around for 49 seconds and then launching the ball deep every time because they are "casual" and just want to have fun. Bee-Yeet!
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FlyingFinn @ 04/28/08 11:51 AM
Yeah, I found it laughable that the big talking points of his presentation were the lighting and the being able to celebrate with the mascot. I mean, if that is what you are hanging your hat on for this years version that isn't saying much.
The thing that I noticed is that the SCORE BAR never goes away, its always there. I dont like that at all, anyone else notice this.
I've noticed that that they talked about cheerleaders, when they will never run an 60 yard touchdown or make the game winning interception in a rivalry game. The only way i care about cheerleaders in the game is if we can get an assault charge for super kicking them in the face after a touchdown.
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thelasthurtknee @ 04/28/08 01:20 PM
do you guys remember on last gen up till about two years ago that you couldn't even return a pick for six. you couldn't return a fumble for a touchdown. no kick returns for touchdowns. the guys on everyone's precious 04 were about twice the size they should of been compared to the field. you could recruit 6'8" guys at any position. the computer couldn't beat you on any level with any sliders. i just saying we had alot of fun with really flawed games. guess what they are still flawed but its still just a video game. even when ea had 2k putting out games ea progressed year to year as much as they do now. they created a new engine and have to reprogram all the old stuff back in while improving game play and correcting flaws. and did anyone ever play 2k's college football game. that was the worst piece of football ever. i not defending ea at all. i hated 08 on next gen but i knew it was going to suck. i played the demo. that's why i still play on ps2 and it was a great game last year with the most amazing playbooks ever in a football game. if you thought 07 and 08 were going to be good on next gen thats your fault. it didn't look good, or play good in the video's or the demo's. i think it looks pretty good (or at least promising) from what i see compared to last year and if the guys who played it said it plays like last gen alot more then that makes me pretty happy.
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spit_bubble @ 04/28/08 01:39 PM
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# 113
bad_philanthropy @ 04/28/08 02:16 PM
Here is my question, we criticize them for not creating a "sim" enough experience so that they can tap a casual customer base. But how can the other EA franchises, NHL, and FIFA, and MVP before those two shift their focus so dramatically from arcade to very sim? FIFA is easily one of the most popular game series ever made and has made a dramatic shift in recent years towards a more realistic on-field product. Fifa's appeal spans an extremely diverse customer base. I would think that the world over FIFA would be the most purchased sports title by casual gamers and yet EA Canada still took a sim direction with it.
Is there some preconceived notion that those who aren't hardcore football fans are idiots and wouldn't appreciate a, realistic, in-depth football simulation?
Is there some preconceived notion that those who aren't hardcore football fans are idiots and wouldn't appreciate a, realistic, in-depth football simulation?
# 114
SageInfinite @ 04/28/08 02:24 PM
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Anyway, I'm actually excited for the game. I know everyone is knocking it for what they added... but what they added sure will be "F-U-N."
Imagine playing someone... breaking open a big run to get the go-ahead score... and then being able to celebrate yourself, all in real-time.
Passing defense looks more solid as well... no more 7 INT games.
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How can the passing look more solid on freshman? I saw tebow roll out and throw a bomb on 3 people. I hope you're being sarcastic.
I'm not being sarcastic. I don't care that it was on Freshman.
The defenders were knocking the ball down instead of catching it.
The defenders were knocking the ball down instead of catching it.
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BrianFifaFan @ 04/28/08 02:48 PM
I will say that I am more than a little bummed about the fact that the game still lacks presentation on the front end. Itr makes me pretty sure that the end of the game will still be boring, as well. I, for the life of me, can't get the design choice decision to not have cutscenes to add to the overall experience. For the offline player this element alone adds depth and immersion to keep playing. I mean that you player the whole season and get a end of game screen for the national championship with a cheap litte trophy. What's the point of playing 13 games? Fifa08 has some presentation elements. They could be better, but they give you that "atta-boy" at the end of the year. And UEFA reaaly blows that away. Why are Tiburons titles so painfully bland?
This whole generation of EA titles are really boring when it comes to the presentation. Madden seems to have gotten a clue from the many complaints of the fanbase. But the NCAA team didn't seem to get it enough. Sure the on the field, in game seems better but what about the build-up? If there is no big celebration after the game or big hype up to it, it simply becomes boring. And monotonous. Tiburon has really made a goof this gen assuming that the vast majority of gamers are the online or head to head types. Unless this game really steps up the presentation, I'll go with Madden and Head Coach. That team seems to have put forth the effort to create a fuller experience for the solo player.
This whole generation of EA titles are really boring when it comes to the presentation. Madden seems to have gotten a clue from the many complaints of the fanbase. But the NCAA team didn't seem to get it enough. Sure the on the field, in game seems better but what about the build-up? If there is no big celebration after the game or big hype up to it, it simply becomes boring. And monotonous. Tiburon has really made a goof this gen assuming that the vast majority of gamers are the online or head to head types. Unless this game really steps up the presentation, I'll go with Madden and Head Coach. That team seems to have put forth the effort to create a fuller experience for the solo player.
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SageInfinite @ 04/28/08 02:51 PM
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SageInfinite @ 04/28/08 02:53 PM
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. Hopefully Madden comes through FINALLY on the presentation front.
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