10:39 PM - June 8, 2010 by Jono078Check out the new Madden NFL 11 video discussing gameplay. If you can't view it on OS, check our Youtube page.
Madden NFL 11 News Post
10:39 PM - June 8, 2010 by Jono078Check out the new Madden NFL 11 video discussing gameplay. If you can't view it on OS, check our Youtube page.
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The animations have improved some to be fair, and I would agree that those are probably early vidz so here's hoping that this isn't indicative of the final product.
One thing though. Can they please get rid of that animation where you juke a defender and the defender falls down. Ray Rice does it around the mid point of the vid (I think it was Rice anyway). It happens way too often. It feels canned and predetermined like the game decided to let you make a big play ahead of time. And it looks ridiculous. Not even Barry Sanders made people fall down all the time. I could trigger this animation at will on 10 with Brandon Jacobs for goodness sake.
Forget motion capturing amateurs in a studio doing prescripted actions. Can't they use footage from actual games as animations in the game? If Walt Disney and Don Bluth could trace cartoon images over cells of live action motion to make their animations more realistic in their cartoons all those many years ago, I find it hard to believe that something similar can't be done where polygons are superimposed over NFL footage.
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TheWatcher @ 06/09/10 12:47 AM
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This documentary series was made in March and now it's June. While I understand you thinking that things overall will be exactly the same, you really can't say that 100%. For all we know they could have been working on the way animations transition these past months.
Hate saying this since it has been said many times before but we are just going to have to wait until E3 (at least that's what I'm going to do since the build will obviously be the closest to how the final game will be).
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Also, I was expecting more in terms of newness that was never touched on from this video. I was not enthused by it. I think NCAA 11 is going to get much of my attention, this year...but I am a NFL head more than college ball head. We'll see.
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Having said that, if you are actually playing the games and not simming, how could you not want gameplay to be focused on first before anything else, even as a franchise guy? I'm not a franchise guy again, but like I said, unless you are simming, I can't see franchise being worthwhile if you aren't actually enjoying playing the games.
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tommyboii2008 @ 06/09/10 01:23 AM
So they finally admitted the blocking problems. so i guess next year they will address the recycled animations and give it a special name and sell it for $60 and call it new..
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cowboykmoney @ 06/09/10 01:38 AM
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All I got to say is that the bar for Madden has always been 2k5 up until now, but the new "Other Game" with it's flaws has raised the bar very high. Also, it used to be NCAA was the little sister to Madden, but they seem to be passing Madden also as far as new and fresh. If half of the nitches in the "Other Game" are tweaked or fixed, there is going to be problems. The days of Madden taken "Baby Steps" and trying to pass such stuff off as new has reached the cliff.
Remember how Live used to be "The" game, but allowed another game developer to swoop in and take their crown.
As good as Fifa is, PES is on their heels.
It seems that gamers are no longer interested in "Inclusion" but "Innovation in sports games.
Remember how Live used to be "The" game, but allowed another game developer to swoop in and take their crown.
As good as Fifa is, PES is on their heels.
It seems that gamers are no longer interested in "Inclusion" but "Innovation in sports games.
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cowboykmoney @ 06/09/10 01:44 AM
Well only E3 will tell the whole story we all look for in Madden 11 this year
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I really don't get why they released this video NOW, of all times. E3 is less than a week away. All of this footage is MONTHS old and all the info has been known for quite some time. Heck, we've even had in depth blogs about these issues...
I really hope Ian's comment that Gameplay trumps all was not some sort of attempt to justify coming deficiencies in franchise mode...but with the lack of any info whatsoever, it wouldn't surprise me. Gameplay is important, but as someone mentioned before, the franchise elements are what give the games replay value.
I really hope Ian's comment that Gameplay trumps all was not some sort of attempt to justify coming deficiencies in franchise mode...but with the lack of any info whatsoever, it wouldn't surprise me. Gameplay is important, but as someone mentioned before, the franchise elements are what give the games replay value.
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PantherBeast_OS @ 06/09/10 02:00 AM
I really think it's coming along very good. Some people seem to be not happy. But who is ever happy with everything. But holding judgement until after next week.
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tooldude79 @ 06/09/10 02:20 AM
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MrSkagTrendy @ 06/09/10 05:11 AM
"I think that the logic of them just knowing what their assignment is, is a game changer." - Anthony Stevenson
This is the problem..THAT SHOULD ALWAYS BE THERE
Also, Ian may have hinted that they've overhauled presentation and franchise, when he was talking about gameplay. "It doesn't matter what your presentation is, it doesn't matter what your franchise is if your gameplay's not there."
This is the problem..THAT SHOULD ALWAYS BE THERE
Also, Ian may have hinted that they've overhauled presentation and franchise, when he was talking about gameplay. "It doesn't matter what your presentation is, it doesn't matter what your franchise is if your gameplay's not there."
I hate how every year they say this Madden is the best ever but then next year they show how bad it was and say this Madden is the best ever.
On the Bucs sweep the hb is about to run into the endzone and then freezes and waits for the tackle. Animations triggering does not look smooth at all.
On the Bucs sweep the hb is about to run into the endzone and then freezes and waits for the tackle. Animations triggering does not look smooth at all.
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Actually a really good franchise and crap gameplay can still make for a good simulated franchise mode 
There is still a mammoth amount of suction in this video. Madden has never been a pretty looking game in broadcast camera views because the movements are jittery and the transitions are inconsistent in speed because having full control gets priority over life like movement. The game always looks better in game cameras because it follows the ball carrier - the broadcast cameras used for trailers etc follow a scene and this really emphasizes the odd movements that a camera reacting to those movements otherwise wouldn't.
I'm certain this *is* the Madden "feel" that many want EA to grow apart from, but simply won't as it's a big risk.
There is still a mammoth amount of suction in this video. Madden has never been a pretty looking game in broadcast camera views because the movements are jittery and the transitions are inconsistent in speed because having full control gets priority over life like movement. The game always looks better in game cameras because it follows the ball carrier - the broadcast cameras used for trailers etc follow a scene and this really emphasizes the odd movements that a camera reacting to those movements otherwise wouldn't.
I'm certain this *is* the Madden "feel" that many want EA to grow apart from, but simply won't as it's a big risk.
I'm going to wait for E3 and see what EA has to offer. Maybe this is old footage, but I don't think it will change a whole lot. Nothing I've seen so far has me the least bit interested in this game. It looks ridiculous. Players still jerk and skate all over the place. Why can't the Madden team make a game in which players move in a realistic manner?
It seems quite clear to me that Madden has gone as far as it can go on this generation of consoles. Unless the completely re-tool this game , this is what we're going to get. Madden 10 with a few very slight adjustments.
PS: I'll bet a weeks pay that people will be complaining about how easy the outside run game is once the game comes out. In Madden 10 when the blocking only randomly worked, pitches and tosses were way to easy to exploit. Now that the blocking is supposedly fixed look out. I see everyone using the Titans and running CJ outside all day.
It seems quite clear to me that Madden has gone as far as it can go on this generation of consoles. Unless the completely re-tool this game , this is what we're going to get. Madden 10 with a few very slight adjustments.
PS: I'll bet a weeks pay that people will be complaining about how easy the outside run game is once the game comes out. In Madden 10 when the blocking only randomly worked, pitches and tosses were way to easy to exploit. Now that the blocking is supposedly fixed look out. I see everyone using the Titans and running CJ outside all day.
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