Werewolf: XIV Spawn (GAME OVER! Please give feedback)

[jeff061]

Real's thinking appears pretty sound to me. Nice digging.

[hoopsguy]

RD, can you include some post #s with that to help the rest of us who want to look at these without re-reading 1,000 posts? That would be very helpful - hard to dig too deeply when at work (at a client site). Thanks for the help. The argument you lay out here is pretty compelling, but I would like the opportunity to read the posts that helped you come to these conclusions.

[saldana]

did i miss a scan or anything...i will be waiting to vote until i at least hear from vince today. i agree schmidty deserves some suspicion based on his voting record (i voted for him the night marc was killed), but i will still wait for the doc to decide who he is scanning today.

[RealDeal]

I'm not going to go through the whole thing again to get post #'s, but I do list post 826 as one by Schmidty that didn't make a lot of sense. Nothing else that Schmidty says is damning in itself, but the timing just seems like someone trying to play it as smoothly as they can: trying to steer the voting to someone other than Dubb, then voting for Dubb when it's clear that he's a goner.

Schmidty originally voted for Dubb, then unvoted when it was pointed out that Vince was exhausted, then revoted for Dubb late in the game.

I could be wrong; this is just a best guess. I've used my secret power and don't have anything else to offer like I did on the last vote.

[Lathum]

I'm open to be scanned if that is what you all think is best..

[jeff061]

I'm on board with a Schmidty scan.

[RealDeal]

I'm on board with a Schmidty scan.

me too

[Barkeep49]

Ok it seems as though the sentiment is to end the cycle today. This means two things:

1. I will guarentee all actions recieved by 4:15 will be processed before I go. I will try and do any that come after that but no promises.

2. I am going to be strict about the deadline today. I have let a couple of actions that came in at 9:02 be processed, but will not be doing so today.

[saldana]

barkeep, if the day cycle ends today at 9, when does the night cycle begin/end?

[hoopsguy]

If we are going this route, then we need some movement on scans + voting earlier rather than later.

[hoopsguy]

Never mind - misread. Sounds like normal deadline, just won't see results from day activities after 4:15. Still would like to get scans in by then. Hopefully Vince comes on sometime soon to participate in the conversation.

[KWhit]

I'd like to see a scan of Schmidty. Maybe Fouts too or Blade. (This is not an order or official request, just saying....)

:)

[RealDeal]

I think I'm going to promote Penny to medic. I'm fairly comfortable he is a good guy, and I don't think promoting will do much harm even if he's not.

Does anyone disagree with this?

[Poli]

Have at it.

[pennywisesb]

I think I'm going to promote Penny to medic. I'm fairly comfortable he is a good guy, and I don't think promoting will do much harm even if he's not.

Does anyone disagree with this?

I would hope at this point people would realize I wasn't a spawn. And a promotion to medic would be greatly appreciated.

[RealDeal]

It's done, penny. I picked out the cutest white skirt and blouse for you.

[Barkeep49]

The ship is called to attention. The Second Officer, RealDeal is pleased to announce that based on his merits and distinguished duty, pennywisesb has been promoted to medic.

[kingfc22]

:(

[KWhit]

Good choice. Penny is high on my list of trusted crewmates.

[Schmidty]

I just woke up. I'm a suspect yet again? You guys, especially RealDeal, are overthinking.

Please do a scan on me ASAP, so we can stop wasting time, and find the actual spawn.

[jeff061]

When there is nothing obvious to go on, "thinking" is generally a okay course of action. If you are clean you got nothing to worry about, so lay back and await the scanning ;).

[Schmidty]

When there is nothing obvious to go on, "thinking" is generally a okay course of action. If you are clean you got nothing to worry about, so lay back and await the scanning ;).

Legs open and waiting. :)

[Raiders Army]

mmmmm....beer.

[pennywisesb]

It's done, penny. I picked out the cutest white skirt and blouse for you.

Thankyou. I've been waiting for an opportunity to wear that white skirt buster ;)

[pennywisesb]

Now, can I get a quick description of what I can and cannot do as a medic?

[Lathum]

OK, I have to go to work so I won't be able to vote since I would rather wait for the scan results then vote blindly.

[Lathum]

OK, I have to go to work so I won't be able to vote since I would rather wait for the scan results then vote blindly.

[Lathum]

OK, I have to go to work so I won't be able to vote since I would rather wait for the scan results then vote blindly.

[pennywisesb]

OK, I have to go to work so I won't be able to vote since I would rather wait for the scan results then vote blindly.

Thankyou X 3

[Fouts]

Ok, here's what I found out last night. I followed King around because I was suspicious of him due to the brig setup. I noticed he was spying too, but then he was attacked and stabbed multiple times. I must be one shitty security guy because I never saw who did it. Makes me think Barkeep doesn't want me to find out who the last (?) spawn is, which is pretty cheesy.

Please scan me, unless you want to waste time debating whether I'm a spawn.

And for the record, I did not defend Dubb. I just thought everything about Vince seemed very fishy. Now I know better.

[jeff061]

We get two scans right? I wouldn't mind seeing one go to Kwhit. These guys that are TOO clean make me nervous, call it Fozziephobia.

[Barkeep49]

As the ship proceeds on its way home, Sndvls posts the latest group to recieve phasers: Sndvls, hoops, blade, and Passacagalia.

[Schmidty]

I suggest that we start thinking of other people, as you'll shortly realize that I'm not a spawn once Vince (or whoever) scans me. I'd prefer that Vince scans me, as he is one of the only survivors we know is clean.

[Schmidty]

As the ship proceeds on its way home, Sndvls posts the latest group to recieve phasers: Sndvls, hoops, blade, and Passacagalia.

So now I'm deprived of a phasers? What bullshit. Guess I won't be able to guard anything tonight. Nice one Sndvls.

[Fouts]

Oh, and in case this means something - I followed him to the area near the Water Plant. I'm not sure if this is a clue.

[Fouts]

So now I'm deprived of a phasers? What bullshit. Guess I won't be able to guard anything tonight. Nice one Sndvls.

Yeah, I'm not on that list either. I suppose I'll be sleeping tonight.

[Schmidty]

Oh, and in case this means something - I followed him to the area near the Water Plant. I'm not sure if this is a clue.

You followed king to the plant? Isn't there a vigilante role as well in this game?

[SnDvls]

So now I'm deprived of a phasers? What bullshit. Guess I won't be able to guard anything tonight. Nice one Sndvls.


you can still guard, just without a phaser. It's a hint to rest tonight or guard without one.

[jeff061]

Vigilante May attack one player during the night cycle once per game (see Attack below) with a 10% increased chance of success over a normal attack. The chance of success is increased if the Vigilante has a phaser.

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[saldana]

i will be out for the next couple hours, probably be back in around 6

[SnDvls]

Yeah, I'm not on that list either. I suppose I'll be sleeping tonight.


again you can protect with out one....read the rules. Or you can sleep.

[SnDvls]

Security Crewman (1 AP per cycle)
Protect Night Only May choose to protect a person or location against attack. If there is an attack on that person/place the attack will occur between the Security Crewman and the attacker(s). If the Security Crewman is armed with a phaser he will receive an additional bonus. Protect has a much smaller positive effect against a Spawn Attack. What/who was protected will not be revealed until the next day cycle. 1 AP


here it is FYI

[Fouts]

Security Crewman (1 AP per cycle)
Protect Night Only May choose to protect a person or location against attack. If there is an attack on that person/place the attack will occur between the Security Crewman and the attacker(s). If the Security Crewman is armed with a phaser he will receive an additional bonus. Protect has a much smaller positive effect against a Spawn Attack. What/who was protected will not be revealed until the next day cycle. 1 AP


here it is FYI

Yeah, I know the rule. I choose not to protect without a phaser. The guy has just as much of a chance as I would (less phaser). You obviously don't want Schmidty and I protecting anyone. Makes me wonder.

[Schmidty]

Security Crewman (1 AP per cycle)
Protect Night Only May choose to protect a person or location against attack. If there is an attack on that person/place the attack will occur between the Security Crewman and the attacker(s). If the Security Crewman is armed with a phaser he will receive an additional bonus. Protect has a much smaller positive effect against a Spawn Attack. What/who was protected will not be revealed until the next day cycle. 1 AP


here it is FYI

Ok, maybe it's just a pride thing, but I feel like a rent-a-cop without my phaser. :)

[SnDvls]

too many people have questions about both of you and I'm not going to give a suspected spawn a phaser to help in their attack against us.

[Fouts]

too many people have questions about both of you and I'm not going to give a suspected spawn a phaser to help in their attack against us.

How about you scan us first, then hand out phasers?

[KWhit]

We get two scans right? I wouldn't mind seeing one go to Kwhit. These guys that are TOO clean make me nervous, call it Fozziephobia.
I'm as clean as they get.

[Schmidty]

Since I'm the only one with a vote so far today, I demand to be the first scanned.

[hoopsguy]

Do phasers aid an attacking spawn?

[Fouts]

Since I'm the only one with a vote so far today, I demand to be the first scanned.

Nope, blade voted for me. I find this interesting since I followed his lead in suspecting Vince.

[SnDvls]

How about you scan us first, then hand out phasers?


I can't scan or I would. I think this does 1 of 2 things for us.

1) you are good and you rest to protect tomorrow (your choice as you said you won't without a phaser) Heck you didn't protect last night anyhow and you had one.
2) you are bad and we don't arm you to help kill us w/ a phaser

that's my thinking. If you don't want to protect, which you chose not to last night then spy. A phaser does nothing for you w/ or w/o a phaser.

[RealDeal]

Good choice. Penny is high on my list of trusted crewmates.

I don't think there are any other choices: three privates, one dead, one already promoted.

[Fouts]

I had kind of glazed over Fouts since he cleared me early on. Very noobish of me.

I didn't clear you as much as say you went straight to the engine room. Doesn't mean you aren't a spawn.

If somebody used the vigilante skill, they should speak up. It would help us determine whether the spawn converted somebody last night.

[hoopsguy]

So in summary:
Modifiers which increase the chance of the Attack succeeding
*More than one person attacking
*Target is exhausted or wounded
*Attack of a room and not a person

Modifiers which decrease the chance of the Attack succeeding
*Security personnel is defending
*Security personnel has a phaser
*The person being attacked is resistant

It doesn't look like there is harm in giving a phaser to our security guys, questions or no questions.

Barkeep, if a phaser is given to non-security personnel does that help them with defense? For example, if Vince had a phaser would that help him with self-defense? I'm guessing the only people who can make use of the phasers are those with some type of Protect power.

[Schmidty]

Nope, blade voted for me. I find this interesting since I followed his lead in suspecting Vince.

However, Blade's vote isn't as damning as a vote from RealDeal. However, once I'm cleared from the scan, RealDeal will be near the top of my list.

[Fouts]

I can't scan or I would. I think this does 1 of 2 things for us.

1) you are good and you rest to protect tomorrow (your choice as you said you won't without a phaser) Heck you didn't protect last night anyhow and you had one.
2) you are bad and we don't arm you to help kill us w/ a phaser

that's my thinking. If you don't want to protect, which you chose not to last night then spy. A phaser does nothing for you w/ or w/o a phaser.

Ok, fair enough. I shall be sleeping away with a Do not disturb sign.

[jeff061]

What is the logic behind suspecting someone for suspecting the wrong person, especially when it's thought out? ReaDeal is the reason people believed Vince and voted Dubb.

[hoopsguy]

Fouts, the spawn should not have been able to convert last night. We have lifted off, thus robbing the queen of her ability to convert going forward. This question has been asked and answered. From here on out the spawn will be trying to kill us or destroy rooms.

Someone jump in if I'm wrong here, but that is how I've read the responses to questions about spawn attacks over the last two days.

[RealDeal]

However, Blade's vote isn't as damning as a vote from RealDeal. However, once I'm cleared from the scan, RealDeal will be near the top of my list.

heh ok.

[Schmidty]

What is the logic behind suspecting someone for suspecting the wrong person, especially when it's thought out? ReaDeal is the reason people believed Vince and voted Dubb.

My reasoning is that I know I'm not a spawn, I've always voted to help the team, and the facts can be twisted by someone to suit their needs. Maybe it would be a personal vendetta, but it just annoys me that we're wasting our time and hurting our chances when I know I'm clean. Of course, you can't all know that, but you will soon I hope.

[jeff061]

Well, no one else knows you are not. If everyone had a similar point of view on this we'd be flipping coins to scan people, and not accusing anyone til a positive scan came back.

Sorry, I don't want to discourage logic. Besides, Real was the main catalyst in people believeing Vince and voting Dubb.

[SnDvls]

I think we need to look at the quiet ones today. The bad guys tend to lay low when their numbers dwindle.

Bug, Beck, Mr.W, Saldana come to mind quickly on the silent but deadley ones

[jeff061]

I trust Saldana and W. I forget why but I looked over both of them yesterday :). Nothing conrete, just post viewing and actions.

Bek and Bug, I got no idea. But those two rarely participate in these games, evil or otherwise.

[RealDeal]

Schmidty,

I can understand getting mad if someone were trying to get you lynched and you were innocent? But scanned? You should be thanking me for trying to get you scanned. Innocent people generally love to get scanned, because it means they get cleared and people will believe what they say and they are no longer in danger of being lynched.

[RealDeal]

I trust Mr. W because he is used his empathic power to validate my scan of Vince and was very adamant in protecting Vince.

[KWhit]

I don't trust Saldana. He switched his vote from Marc to Schmidty at 8:49pm to tie the votes. Turns out that AE had the right guy killed anyway.

I may be crazy, but I trust Schmidty at this point. I think that Saldana could be a spawn and switched his vote at the end to try to save Marc.

[Vince]

Slept in a little later than I expected to today -- sorry I haven't been around guys.

I'm still not entirely convinced that Pennywisesb is clean -- remember, at times while being attacked, I thought it might be three people. I see no concrete evidence that would convince me of his being a for-sure crewman/survivor.

As of now, it looks like I'm scanning Schmidty...I find it hard to believe that we had a choice between spawn or spawn on day one, and his rebuttal of our selection on day one was rather vehement, and had at least a couple people convinced, if I recall correctly. But he does look rather suspicious...so is that a yay on scanning Schmidty?

[Poli]

It did appear that Schmidty would die, since I had voted for Schmidty earlier. It could be.

[jeff061]

Yeah, his voting actions are what had me taking a closer look at all his posts.

[Poli]

Slept in a little later than I expected to today -- sorry I haven't been around guys.

I'm still not entirely convinced that Pennywisesb is clean -- remember, at times while being attacked, I thought it might be three people. I see no concrete evidence that would convince me of his being a for-sure crewman/survivor.

As of now, it looks like I'm scanning Schmidty...I find it hard to believe that we had a choice between spawn or spawn on day one, and his rebuttal of our selection on day one was rather vehement, and had at least a couple people convinced, if I recall correctly. But he does look rather suspicious...so is that a yay on scanning Schmidty?
No offense to the others, but I'd prefer RealDeal or saldana.

[RealDeal]

Either way the scan on Shcmidty turns out, we win, so yes go for it Vince.

[jeff061]

I can see Saldana, but why RealDeal after yesterday. I don't want to defend the guy TOO much just in case, but I rank him second to Vince.

And, even if I'm the only one, I'd like to confirm Mr. Perfect, aka Kwhit :).

[KWhit]

I feel like RealDeal is okay. I don't trust Saldana.

[SnDvls]

I say scan Saldana or Bek

[RealDeal]

and poof Vince disappears again. Hopefully, he put in an order to scan someone.

[Bek]

if you want to know why ive been so quiet is that everything seems to bo going ok, ive been watching posts and keepin up with everything. I think at this point the only thing that will clear anybody from complete suspicion is a scan...so go ahead and scan me...i'm an open book...i have no secrets

[jeff061]

I realize I'm alone here, but I still want to at least make sure he desn't stay 100% below everyones radar.

Out of all the people that are being "threatened" by a scan, only Kwhit isn't saying something along the lines of "Ok fine, let's get it over with and get it back on track". If by chance he is spawn I just don't want to see him skate to the end, which he is poised to do right now.

[Vince]

No, I'm here. Lots to catch up on in the fake-sports world since I was gone most of yesterday -- Rule V draft in my OOTP league, Week 9 in GEFL, Week 2 of pre-season in IHOF...

Looks like we're torn on the issue...Ardent, I'm confused as to why you might want me to scan RealDeal? He seems to be almost a no-brainer for 'good guy.'

[RealDeal]

Considering there is probably only one or two spawn left, I think Vince should consider doing two short scans next time instead of one long one. If he finds a spawn, he dies, but we're at the point where that may be a good trade for us, and we can get twice as many scans in per cycle.

[Vince]

Thanks, but I'd rather not die :)

These board maintenance outages are killing me.

[hoopsguy]

I've been re-reading the old posts to look at votes - through the Schmidty/MarcV one so far. Here are the groups:
Voted for MarcV: Penny, MrW, Bug, Schmidty, Dubb, Lathum, RA
Voted for Schmidty: Vince, AE, Hoops, KWhit, King, Jeff, Sal

Jeff and Saldana switched pretty late in the game from Marc to Schmidty to force the tie.
Known spawn Dubb votes for Marc. Strongly suspected spawn RA votes for Marc after initially voting for neither (cast vote for another person).

During this vote the spawn council knew that Marc was a spawn. But when there was the opportunity to rush to Schmidty they did not. I know this is largely re-hashing what Real posted earlier today. But it really does seem to stick out here.

I definitely think we should scan Schmidty.

[hoopsguy]

Going to turn my attention towards the Dubb vote and see what comes up - this one ups the ante a little bit over voting for a garden-variety spawn like Marc since Dubb was the Hive Mind.

[RealDeal]

Vince, I think you should scan Schmidty. I don't know for a fact he is a spawn, but the Marc Vaughn vote was strange as hell, now that we know that the two other confirmed spawn voted for him.

[KWhit]

I realize I'm alone here, but I still want to at least make sure he desn't stay 100% below everyones radar.

Out of all the people that are being "threatened" by a scan, only Kwhit isn't saying something along the lines of "Ok fine, let's get it over with and get it back on track". If by chance he is spawn I just don't want to see him skate to the end, which he is poised to do right now.
I had a long post responding to this that was lost due to the board maintenance. Basically I'm not saying "Sure, go ahead and scan me" because I think it's a dumb idea (wastes a scan that we can't afford to waste). I have been very beneficial to the good guys and you're the only one who suspects me. And you haven't even proposed a reason to do it!

It didn't seem to warrant a response, to be honest.

[hoopsguy]

Just to put a couple of post numbers on the Marc/Schmidty voting, Raiders comes in on #452 and the final talley is #495. I would encourage other people to spend time on this angle as well if they have the time and are so inclined. I think it is easier to build consensus when multiple people are looking at the same data as independently as possible.

[jeff061]

Penny gets a scan today correct?

[hoopsguy]

The range of posts is about 300-500 for Marc/Schmidty. Moving on now ...

[jeff061]

I had a long post responding to this that was lost due to the board maintenance. Basically I'm not saying "Sure, go ahead and scan me" because I think it's a dumb idea (wastes a scan that we can't afford to waste). I have been very beneficial to the good guys and you're the only one who suspects me. And you haven't even proposed a reason to do it!

It didn't seem to warrant a response, to be honest.


Only because I've been burnt in a past game by someone acting identical to you and winning the game. I consider you capable of pulling the exact same thing off. Piece of mind thing, and I'm only suggesting under the assumption we have two scans today.

[KWhit]

Jeff and Saldana switched pretty late in the game from Marc to Schmidty to force the tie.
Hmmm.... Interesting. I didn't realize that Jeff switched too. I wonder if that's why he's trying to get me scanned - maybe we're getting too close to scanning Saldana and he's trying to protect a fellow spawn.

No idea if this is true or not, just trying to figure out a reason why Jeff would be so suspicious of me for no real reason.

[RealDeal]

There's only one scan today as far as I know, and Vince is deciding who to give it to. I say Schmidty, others say Saldana (which is also a good choice), Vince still suspects Penny becuase he may have been attacked by all three people in the brig. Any of those is ok because they are all people we have no evidence one way or the other for right now.

[hoopsguy]

Jeff, going back to post #515 do you still think there are 2-3 spawn on the "Vote MarcV" list?

[KWhit]

Gotta run. I'll check back in later. This is getting interesting. I still think Saldana is a suspect worthy of a scan and then maybe Schmidty or Fouts.

[jeff061]

Jeff, going back to post #515 do you still think there are 2-3 spawn on the "Vote MarcV" list?

Heh, no, I think that post was incorrect. I would of never suspected multiple spawns to vote for Marc, so I am totally for scanning Schmidty, since that could explain that.

Kwhit, I only want to scan you, I'm not even close to arguing towards a vote against you without scan evidence. It's not to hard to do everything right in this game when you know the roles, and then skate through to the end and win. It happened to me, so maybe I'm a little to over cautious now.

[jeff061]

What are the chances of King picking 3 spawns and 1 doctor? It seems it was real bad luck just to get those 2.

[Schmidty]

Again, I truly hope someone scans me, as I am not spawn, and want it put to rest once and for all. However, the fact that I know I'm not spawn also means that a scan on me would be a "waste", as we wouldn't be catching a bad guy. So selfishly, I say scan me. Unselfishly, I say scan someone else.

[Vince]

Well, you guys have convinced me to scan Schmidty. Some pretty convincing arguments there, especially the argument by Hoops that the spawn could have rushed to Schmidty in Marc Vaughn's defense, but they didn't. I'm sending in my orders now -- worst case scenario, we have a cleared survivor.

My take on Schmidty --

Day 2 I voted for him. The only reason I voted for him was because he was one of the three newcomers to the away team when they failed spectacularly. He, hoops and Marc Vaughn (I think -- not taking the time to look back and see if that is correct) were the three newcomers, and I randomly picked Schmidty. I was at work for a good portion of the day, and I wanted to make sure we had a vote that day, or at least tried to. So I voted Schmidty and left. I had no real evidence against him (outside the away team thing), and was definitely ok with Ardent picking Marc Vaughn. When MV turned out to be Spawn, it didn't exactly clear Schmidty in my eyes, but made him less likely to be a Spawn.

Hoops and RealDeal have convinced me to at least take another look at Schmidty...but the most convincing piece of evidence (in my opinion) is that the Spawn didn't rush to defend MV. The only problem with this is that if they had rushed to defend MV, they would have been linked to him by voting patterns. If Schmidty turned out to be human, vote switching/piling on would have been examined most carefully, and therefore letting MV die (who was the Spawn Equivalent of a Red Shirt) seems like the more intelligent move.

That being said, I'm still not convinced on Schmidty, so I'm scanning him today with a long examination.

[RealDeal]

I agree with Jeff. Now knowing that King was clean, I think it was an innocent mistake because king wanted to protect the three important roles of doctor, nurse, scientist. Little did he know that two of those three were spawn.

[Vince]

Damned outages. If the board keeps doing this, I would like to put on the table a motion to eliminate the deadline for today.

[RealDeal]

Sounds good, Vince. The worst case scenario is that we end up with more completely cleared guy.

Also, since we are getting close to night, I want to remind Lathum to put the same group in the brig as was in there last night. Don't put Vince in the brig with guys we aren't sure about.

[dubb93]

Little did he know that two of those three were spawn.

BBBBBBLLLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHAAAAAAAHHHHHAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!! :cool:

[Passacaglia]

Hey guys -- I don't have much time here, but I'll try to check back in maybe half an hour. I suspect a lot of people -- Blade, Schmidty, Fouts, penny -- that's in order of suspicion. Of course, I don't have time to elaborate why! I'll try to elaborate when I get back from this wedding, probably around midnight eastern or so. As for my vote, I'm going to VOTE SCHMIDTY -- mainly because of his threat to RealDeal (in post 1305), who has done nothing but start a chain of events that helped us nab two spawn.

[Poli]

No, I'm here. Lots to catch up on in the fake-sports world since I was gone most of yesterday -- Rule V draft in my OOTP league, Week 9 in GEFL, Week 2 of pre-season in IHOF...

Looks like we're torn on the issue...Ardent, I'm confused as to why you might want me to scan RealDeal? He seems to be almost a no-brainer for 'good guy.'
I tried to reply earlier. I messed up on RD, my apology. Saldana (mostly) and Jeff are my concerns. RealDeal was yesterday before the chain of events, I had forgotten about everything that occurred yesterday.

[Raiders Army]

*moans*

[Schmidty]

Hey guys -- I don't have much time here, but I'll try to check back in maybe half an hour. I suspect a lot of people -- Blade, Schmidty, Fouts, penny -- that's in order of suspicion. Of course, I don't have time to elaborate why! I'll try to elaborate when I get back from this wedding, probably around midnight eastern or so. As for my vote, I'm going to VOTE SCHMIDTY -- mainly because of his threat to RealDeal (in post 1305), who has done nothing but start a chain of events that helped us nab two spawn.

When I'm cleared you're going to look bad too. You're not helping yourself by voting before the results of the scan.....

[jeff061]

Pass was cleared by Real yesterday I believe.

[Raiders Army]

*groans*

[SnDvls]

gotta go in 20 mins...I hope the scan comes back soon

[Raiders Army]

*pitches a tent while in a coma*

[Schmidty]

Pass was cleared by Real yesterday I believe.

Well, as I said before, people voting for me before the scan is ridiculous, reckless and a waste of time. As you will all see.

[Fouts]

My thoughts:

Engineers
Saldana -- Definitely clean.
Mr.Wednesday -- Definitely clean.


Ok, looking over past votes (when the board is up), I noticed that Passacaglia says Saldana is definitely clean. Did I miss something, why is this a definite?

I don't suspect Schmidty. I think he is in the same boat as me (suspected, but not guilty). Couple under the radar guys have me wondering. If you're not helping, what are you doing?

[jeff061]

Well, as I said before, people voting for me before the scan is ridiculous, reckless and a waste of time. As you will all see.

Don't disagree, but it's not going to effect my view of him.

[RealDeal]

I do agree with Schmidty that there is no reason in the world to vote for him since Vince has chosen him for the scan. He will be cleared one way or the other.

unvote Schmidty

[Raiders Army]

Rosebud.

[Vince]

Well, since either way Schmidty is cleared, cured or dead, I'm going to go ahead and continue my theme from yesterday -- I vote Pennywisesb. I still think it's possible (however unlikely) that there were three of them in there with me the night before last, and I really don't have much to go on as far as a different person to vote for.

[saldana]

i have no objection at all to being scanned, i welcome it, because i have nothing to hide...regarding my vote for schmidty...i voted marc early because we had no evidence against anyone, and then switched because the senior officers were all voting for schmidty, and they all had been cleared earlier in the day.

in my own defense, i was the first one trying to get us off planet, i was never needed to be ordered to do anything, and i was a strong proponent for lifting off as soon as we could. you could easily say i did all this as a cover, but it was sincere in an effort to get us out of there as quickly as possible.

bottom line, scan me please.

[pennywisesb]

Well, since either way Schmidty is cleared, cured or dead, I'm going to go ahead and continue my theme from yesterday -- I vote Pennywisesb. I still think it's possible (however unlikely) that there were three of them in there with me the night before last, and I really don't have much to go on as far as a different person to vote for.
Come on Vince. Get over it. I didn't attack you.

[pennywisesb]

I still think it's possible (however unlikely) that there...

Why are you prefacing your choice with "however unlikely" and then continuing to vote for me?

[pennywisesb]

Well, as I said before, people voting for me before the scan is ridiculous, reckless and a waste of time. As you will all see.
I agree. I think the scans today will tell us alot so I don't see why people are casting votes before the scan results are in.

[RealDeal]

I trust Vince, but I'm having a hard time convincing myself there were three spawns all in the brig with Vince, especially since we know the guy who pick the people in the brig was clean.

I don't feel like I really need to result of the scan to vote. All that Schmidty's scan tells is whether or not Schmidty is clean. But I have nothing to work off of, so I'm open to suggestions other people have.

[pennywisesb]

All that Schmidty's scan tells is whether or not Schmidty is clean.
Isn't this what we want to know before voting?

[Barkeep49]

Scan results sent (snuck on for 1 minute from work)

[RealDeal]

Yeah, but either way the scan goes, there's no way we'd vote for Schmidty. If he's clean, he's clean. If he wasn't, he's clean now, and he's in a coma.

[Vince]

I agree. I think the scans today will tell us alot so I don't see why people are casting votes before the scan results are in. Before today's actions, I had scanned three people.

Day 1 -- Ardent Enthusiast -- 100% sure that he was not spawn at that point.

Day 2 -- Myself -- eliminated Spawnling infection.

Day 3 -- Raiders Army -- eliminated Spawn infection.

At the end of each scan, the person I had targetted, regardless of their status pre-scan, was 100% clean. The only other outcome of a scan is that both myself and the scanned one die. Therefore, if Schmidty comes out of my scan alive, he's clean. That is why people aren't worried about hearing the results of the scan before they vote.

Backpedalling awfully quick there Josh...I know what it's like to be on the hot-seat, so that's not really an indicator of guilt, but still.

I am prefacing my vote for you with "however unlikely" because the odds that a non-Spawn would hand select 3 Spawn to put into the brig with me, arguably the most important member of the team, are astronomical. I understand that. However, I have no evidence against ANYONE else, and I was told that I might have been attacked by three people -- that means that you were possibly one of the people who attacked me.

[Vince]

Scan results sent (snuck on for 1 minute from work)
Well, back to square one. I got the same result from Schmidty as I did from Ardent on day one. I am 100% sure that Schmidty is a survivor.

[RealDeal]

alright then, so much for my super-sleuthing. Any ideas?

[Blade6119]

At the end of each scan, the person I had targetted, regardless of their status pre-scan, was 100% clean. The only other outcome of a scan is that both myself and the scanned one die. Therefore, if Schmidty comes out of my scan alive, he's clean. That is why people aren't worried about hearing the results of the scan before they vote.

While i do trust you, this comment is blatantly wrong...as per the rules:

Doctor (2 AP per cycle)
Short examination Day Only In this case there is a small chance the doctor will become infected or that either or both the doctor and crew member will die.

Long examination Day OnlyThere is also a chance that the doctor and/or crew member will die or that the doctor will become infected.

[Vince]

So where does this leave us? Saldana, Fouts and Jeff, I guess are our primary suspects? I'm going to leave my vote on Pennywise for reasons I've already stated.

[Blade6119]

fyi, just wondering...it feels like im the only damn person in this game who doesnt know their secret role...its annoying...

[MrBug708]

I trust Saldana and W. I forget why but I looked over both of them yesterday :). Nothing conrete, just post viewing and actions.

Bek and Bug, I got no idea. But those two rarely participate in these games, evil or otherwise.

Actually I do participate. I do know that I won't be so reluctant to participate in ones that need me around a computer 24/7 is all

[Blade6119]

dola, if barkeep sees this did you forget to tell me my secret role maybe...wishful thinking im sure, just annoying

[jeff061]

Well, if need be, I'm fairly confident I can prove I'm innocent. I just figured it helps for the spawn to know as little about us as possible.

I stand by what I said earlier about wh I'd like scanned.

[Schmidty]

Well, back to square one. I got the same result from Schmidty as I did from Ardent on day one. I am 100% sure that Schmidty is a survivor.

Told everyone.

Now what? I guess I can feel more comfortable pointing fingers at others, but I don't want to do it willy-nilly as was done toward me, although RD and hoopsguy had some very good points on me. I don't know where that leaves them. Maybe they really thought I was bad, or one of them was setting me up with some very cleverly selective sleuthing.

[Blade6119]

fyi, im seriously considering teaming up with the one person i completely trust in this game and launching an attack tonight...we dont have the water to mess around, since we have just enough for over today...tomorrow most of us will die, right?...if thats right, it might serve us well to attack our suspects and hope we get lucky...ardent choosing to lift off when we had soo little water is catching up to us, and we need to do something

[Vince]

While i do trust you, this comment is blatantly wrong...as per the rules:
Good catch. I'm also not sure how I forgot to put you on my list of suspects :)

I do remember, at some point, barkeep posting that the results of a scan could not be incorrect -- I think it was back when I was questioning the validity of RA's short scans. So while I could be infected, I don't think that I could be told false information, and I don't think it's possible for someone to come out of a scan as a spawn. Spawn would know that I was examining them, and want to kill me if I wasn't able to cure them -- not only because I am the Doctor, but to keep my damned mouth shut.

Also, for what it's worth, I still don't know my secret role either.

[MrBug708]

Being an engineer is quite boring, I must admit.

[Vince]

Well, I'm off to work. I don't have much more to add -- tomorrow is another day and another scan. In the brig with these people (since I wasn't attacked last night, for the first damned time this game :)), I think I'm safe. Hopefully tonight I can put together some logical arguments based on some people in the game.

[Poli]

Being an engineer is quite boring, I must admit.You could always paint out the spaces.

[RealDeal]

Well, I'm off to work. I don't have much more to add -- tomorrow is another day and another scan. In the brig with these people (since I wasn't attacked last night, for the first damned time this game :)), I think I'm safe. Hopefully tonight I can put together some logical arguments based on some people in the game.

Has Lathum made the brig command yet?

[Blade6119]

Good catch. I'm also not sure how I forgot to put you on my list of suspects :)
People I am suspicious of
[list]
Blade6119 -- He was pushing AWFULLY hard to get me, and kept insisting that the crew lost next to nothing even if they lynched me. Considering I can not only detect spawn, but I can CURE spawn...that'd be a pretty crucial ability to lose. From a spawn's tactical viewpoint, this is a poor strategy; if he lynches me, I'm innocent, he and Dubb immediately become suspects. Sure, it's at the expense of the Doctor -- but do they have the numbers to be able to just throw away Spawn? This worries me...

lol, i think you got me..i was first one you mentioned actually...i was kind of hoping you would scan me, but schmidty wasnt a bad choice either...it basically comes down in my mind to whether you think its me, fouts, or maybe kwhit...penny doesnt make sense to me, and i trust kwhit, so in my mind its me or fouts...you make the call from there...the reason i say its not kwhit is he was the other person i trusted publicly besides king and king was good....

[Blade6119]

Has Lathum made the brig command yet?

No, i did though...same four from last night

[Poli]

Bastad. Bring me beer.

[Blade6119]

dola, am i wrong that have to vote in an hour?...if so it looks right now fouts would die with one vote...

[jeff061]

Well if there is decision to attack me, at least let me know. I'm holding back on defending myself right now since I don't really feel like there is to much heat on me.

[Blade6119]

Bastad. Bring me beer.

I did last night, dont you remember....hell, you couldnt stop singing that damn britney spears crap all night...fairy boy :p

[Blade6119]

Well if there is decision to attack me, at least let me know. I'm holding back on defending myself right now since I don't really feel like there is to much heat on me.

Right now it should be clear who we would attack(my group)...other groups may want to attack me...their call...but right now im planning on either spying or attacking fouts with my crew

[RealDeal]

Bastad. Bring me beer.

Don't worry AE, Vince is going to bring a bag of his medical marijuana. I'll bring the Playstation. You can bring the pizza.

[RealDeal]

Right now it should be clear who we would attack(my group)...other groups may want to attack me...their call...but right now im planning on either spying or attacking fouts with my crew

Blade, we get to lynch someone. Fouts has been on a number of suspicion lists. Set out your reasons for us so we can consider them.

[saldana]

he cant die unless he has 6 votes

[Blade6119]

Don't worry AE, Vince is going to bring a bag of his medical marijuana. I'll bring the Playstation. You can bring the pizza.

HAHAHA, no power outlet...shame, guess ill have to confiscate that ps2...oh wait, marijuana?...someone just got assigned to the laundry room for the night while i inspect this evidence

[Blade6119]

he cant die unless he has 6 votes

In a lynch yes, but night attack only requires one technically

[KWhit]

Anyone care to do a vote count?

[MrBug708]

Bastad. Bring me beer.

I was putting in a hot tub on the third floor. 74' Plasma overhead. Room for a certain captain and a couple playmates.

[KWhit]

Ok, looking over past votes (when the board is up), I noticed that Passacaglia says Saldana is definitely clean. Did I miss something, why is this a definite?Did anyone ever answer this?

[Fouts]

Right now it should be clear who we would attack(my group)...other groups may want to attack me...their call...but right now im planning on either spying or attacking fouts with my crew

You just screwed up. Warden cannot spy. And who is your crew? Hmmm.

Vote Blade

[hoopsguy]

Out of game - ugh, site downtime + long drive = brutal.

Schmidty, I'm 90% glad to hear that you came back clean. 10% not because now we have to work harder to find a spawn.

I want to return to analyzing the voting patterns from the Dubb/Vince showdown yesterday, but I don't know that there is sufficient time to work through this before our deadline, assuming it is still on for the regular time.

[Schmidty]

I need to vote soon, but I don't know who to cast a vote for. Everything seems so random and chaotic.

[Blade6119]

You just screwed up. Warden cannot spy. And who is your crew? Hmmm.

Vote Blade

Actually, in the thread barkeep stated that all security personnel could do night actions(just like the rules say warden cant get phaser but he changed it during the early stages of game)..i recieved a PM last night telling me that as a game balance issue due to 6 security crewmen instead of 5 now i could not protect...i sent back a PM about ability to spy and am awaiting response...no mess-up, sry

[Blade6119]

Blade, we get to lynch someone. Fouts has been on a number of suspicion lists. Set out your reasons for us so we can consider them.

I dont think my opinion is regarded very highly currently, but:

I admit I put hints into my posts,

This applies heavily to the next message

Last night Hoopsguy and Sndvls agree to split their shift watching the Water Plant. As they leave they are shocked to find on the ground King surrounded by a puddle of blood. While neither of them are a doctor it is clear that he is dead. It seems as though the area around the water plant was a popular area, as the two had noticed Fouts[color=blue] as they started their shift.

??? He said he was spying, saw him get stabbed multiple times, but somehow doesnt see the killer? And hes the only one the crew sees in that area(pass was in the crew quarters), no killer??

More information about Vince;

Schmidty (7) -- Ardent, hoopsguy, jeff, King, KWhit, Saldana, Vince

While I'm not 100 percent sure, the evidence is mounting up pretty high.

Seems to me every single one of those guys is good...not sure whats soo damning there

Nope, blade voted for me. I find this interesting since I followed his lead in suspecting Vince.

People who pushed towards vince are king, kwhit, you and i...king is clear, i trust kwhit pretty heavily, and you and i are not clear...i started the push, brought all this to everyones attention instead of voting for penny who was dubbs vote rival at the time, and stuck to my gut all day...only after getting enough people to switch to my viewpoint where its a dead even vote you decide to jump in and and try and get vince killed...

Ok, fair enough. I shall be sleeping away with a Do not disturb sign.

If he is exhausted tonight well know hes lying...i think he faked spying and killed king since king was one of the smartest players we had(i couldnt for the life of me figure out why king interrogated hoopsguy until a day later someone mentioned hoops rations water...advance thinking like that made me sure he was clear, and now it canthelp us since he was killed)...read the next message for why he was killed:

SWEET!!!

Sorry I doubted Mr. W and RealDeal, but the events surrounding Vince just seemed to outrageous, but the knowledge tha Dubb's role was now useless made my decision an easy risk/reward one.

Fouts has now moved towards the top of my list since he was one of the 3 additions to the 2nd away mission.

That was the last post he made about who he suspected, and then made 4 posts about the brig and defending himself...nice target for fouts...head of security suspects him and dies

Theres more, but with votes in 30 we dont have time for me not to post this

[hoopsguy]

Vince, I'm not 100% sure that you are correct in Post #1384:
I don't think it's possible for someone to come out of a scan as a spawn. Spawn would know that I was examining them, and want to kill me if I wasn't able to cure them -- not only because I am the Doctor, but to keep my damned mouth shut.


I re-read the full description of the long exam and think it is possible for you to cure the spawn and become infected in the process, perhaps without knowing it. Barkeep, if possible I would love some clarification on if this is possible.

I want to have 100% trust in you, Vince. I have considered you a trusted source each of the last two days. I'm hoping that Barkeep is willing to bring some clarity on this point so each of us can factor this into our decision on your words as an absolute in a game with a ton of uncertainty.

[Fouts]

Well, lynch me tonight and you're next Blade. How long can you target the good guys before somebody takes notice.

[hoopsguy]

Blade, I'm not sure I trust you - I thought you were very helpful during the initial days voting when you raised the point about several of the privates being in the brig. But you were after Vince in such a vociferous way yesterday that it damaged all of the trust I was starting to generate for you. But I'm not sure I trust Fouts either and this argument you have laid out against him is better than anything I have on anyone at the current time.

I'm definitely getting my vote in before deadline. Hope others will as well.

[saldana]

i know this could come back to screw me, but since we dont really have alot tonight, i will go with blade and
vote fouts

[Fouts]

That was the last post he made about who he suspected, and then made 4 posts about the brig and defending himself...nice target for fouts...head of security suspects him and dies



Yep, I'm such a smart bad guy that I kill the guy who targets me. Uh huh. How about we kill off the security crew that can spy, while we let the engineers hang out and drink the water. Good idea!

[SnDvls]

Actually, in the thread barkeep stated that all security personnel could do night actions(just like the rules say warden cant get phaser but he changed it during the early stages of game)..i recieved a PM last night telling me that as a game balance issue due to 6 security crewmen instead of 5 now i could not protect...i sent back a PM about ability to spy and am awaiting response...no mess-up, sry


post # for this please as I don't believe that was the case. Until you provide the proof.

vote Blade

I recall him letting me have a phaser and to protect, but that was it.

[MrBug708]

Im kinda leaning towards agreeign with what FOuts is saying on Blade. He just gives me a bad vibe.

Vote - Blade

[hoopsguy]

Post #517 from Dubb: "pretty sure KWhit is clean", "Schmidty seems adament", "What about Fouts, Pass, and Penny?

Post #556 Blade, you hinted that you had picked up a hint from Barkeep and were looking hard at someone. Was that Vince? Someone else? Just curious after re-reading this.

[KWhit]

I don't know who to vote for. But we need to kill somebody tonight, unfortunately.

[Blade6119]

post # for this please as I don't believe that was the case. Until you provide the proof.

vote Blade

I recall him letting me have a phaser and to protect, but that was it.

Post # for where he said i could protect and do night actions(if you looked i never did night actions, and wasnt even aware i could until barkeep took the ability from me)? Also, did barkeep make a rule about not posting PMS?...if not ill drop them right here for you

[jeff061]

Ok, theres been enough speculation abut king, from it being Fouts to Spawn wanting to promote Lathum.

I killed King. I am the vigilante. When I went to kill king I went by his room, he was not there, I spotted him by the water. I slipped by a shadowy figure (unnamed) unseen and killed King.

Sorry King. I was in use it or lose it mode, and spent an hour deciding. There is a reason I was stressing input on who we would target today, it was because I was planning to kill them last night.

[KWhit]

I'm leaning toward Saldana, but may have to join the bandwagon to make sure we have enough votes to kill somebody.

[SnDvls]

Post # for where he said i could protect and do night actions(if you looked i never did night actions, and wasnt even aware i could until barkeep took the ability from me)? Also, did barkeep make a rule about not posting PMS?...if not ill drop them right here for you

I don't want PM's (can be faked too easily or misconstrued i.e. what you did to Bek in a past game) I want the post # in here where Barkeep says you can do what you claim.

[KWhit]

Post # for where he said i could protect and do night actions(if you looked i never did night actions, and wasnt even aware i could until barkeep took the ability from me)? Also, did barkeep make a rule about not posting PMS?...if not ill drop them right here for you

No. Don't post PMs.

[jeff061]

Vote Blade

I guess, despite what I posted, Fouts isn't in the clear.

[Blade6119]

Post #517 from Dubb: "pretty sure KWhit is clean", "Schmidty seems adament", "What about Fouts, Pass, and Penny?

Post #556 Blade, you hinted that you had picked up a hint from Barkeep and were looking hard at someone. Was that Vince? Someone else? Just curious after re-reading this.

my vibe was vince, i didnt buy he was attacked, knew it, then instead of playing his new spawn role he went to work to help the good guys...vince was it, and thats why when no one has even mentioned him as a suspect i brought all the evidence out...one thing that might look bad fouts might bring out was i said he wasnt in the brig when he was, but i didnt want him to know i was on to him if he was spawn

[Blade6119]

Ok, theres been enough speculation abut king, from it being Fouts to Spawn wanting to promote Lathum.

I killed King. I am the vigilante. When I went to kill king I went by his room, he was not there, I spotted him by the water. I slipped by a shadowy figure (unnamed) unseen and killed King.

Sorry King. I was in use it or lose it mode, and spent an hour deciding. There is a reason I was stressing input on who we would target today, it was because I was planning to kill them last night.

wow, thats intersting...

[KWhit]

And FYI: For what it's worth, you spawns, I will be being protected tonight, so you better not come after my ass!

:)

[jeff061]

Nothing really helpful in there, I was only going to post it if I felt incorrect speculation was being passed arund.

[Fouts]

He said you could protect and receive a phaser. He never said you could spy. You claimed you would spy on me or get your "team" to kill me. Since I am good, you and your team are bad.

[RealDeal]

If jeff's story is true, what the hell did the spawn do last night?

[hoopsguy]

Post #614 - SnDvls makes a reference to Barkeep granting the power to protect at night. Blade, if you are looking for the Barkeep post on expanded roles it is likely before this one. I have not run across it going from 500-600 in the last few minutes.

[KWhit]

If jeff's story is true, what the hell did the spawn do last night?
Good point. Unless one of the guards scared them off and they aborted an attack??? :confused:

[hoopsguy]

Well, from what I saw the spawn were snooping around the water. But my exhausted ass scared them away without a confrontation (to the best of my knowledge).

[jeff061]

If jeff's story is true, what the hell did the spawn do last night?

At first glance it would appear they haven't accomplished anything this game.

[SnDvls]

Post #614 - SnDvls makes a reference to Barkeep granting the power to protect at night. Blade, if you are looking for the Barkeep post on expanded roles it is likely before this one. I have not run across it going from 500-600 in the last few minutes.


which was to give me a phaser and allow me to protect, not the warden.

[KWhit]

Anybody know the vote total?

[KWhit]

Well, from what I saw the spawn were snooping around the water. But my exhausted ass scared them away without a confrontation (to the best of my knowledge).
Which leads back to Fouts.

[KWhit]

Last night Hoopsguy and Sndvls agree to split their shift watching the Water Plant. As they leave they are shocked to find on the ground King surrounded by a puddle of blood. While neither of them are a doctor it is clear that he is dead. Upset at the loss of their commander, they never-the-less, go through the shredded remains of the body. Nothing there. King was a good man they think, and more importantly he was A SURVIVOR!. It is with a heavy heart that Lathum realizes that his time in training is over and he is now the Security Chief.

It seems as though the area around the water plant was a popular area, as the two had noticed Fouts as they started their shift. Passacagalia was similarly noted hanging near the Crews Quarters. Meanwhile Schmidty spent the night standing outside of KWhit's room.
For reference.

[hoopsguy]

Nope - I think we need to vote someone off, if only to save water. I just wish I had a little more time to make what I felt was a more educated guess. Instead I'm backing someone else fairly blindly here :(

Vote Fouts

[KWhit]

We need to come together and all vote as a unit or nobody will get lynched!

[jeff061]

Ardent if we don't get enough votes you need to overrule and pick someone.

[Fouts]

Which leads back to Fouts.

Huh? I was following King. Jeff confirms it with his story.

[KWhit]

This is heartless, but I'd rather vote and be wrong than not kill anyone tonight.

[MrBug708]

Lathum has lied about his role before...

[Blade6119]

post # for this please as I don't believe that was the case. Until you provide the proof.

vote Blade

I recall him letting me have a phaser and to protect, but that was it.

i scanned the thread and couldnt find the post...i hope someone else on the security staff got it, but if not toast my ass and kill fouts tomorrow...plain and simple, im willing to take one for the team

[KWhit]

Huh? I was following King. Jeff confirms it with his story.
I don't remember what you're referring to. I'm just going by Barkeep's description.

[jeff061]

Barkeep has confirmed Fouts was spying last night.

[RealDeal]

I'm just not sure either Fouts or Blade are baddies.

I'm looking at the two quiestest people: bek and bug. Bek's history is that he customarily terse, but Bug usually has more to say.

vote Bug

I don't feel good about this vote at all, but I don't feel good about any choice right now.

[Blade6119]

i agree, be it me or fouts ardent needs to step in and kill someone tonight

[Blade6119]

Barkeep has confirmed Fouts was spying last night.

Barkeep has also confirmed numerous times you can fake your duties and no one will know better...fouts could easily have faked this

[jeff061]

I dont think we are near a vote limit, right?

Ardent I'd PM your choice in.

[KWhit]

Barkeep has confirmed Fouts was spying last night.
True. But he could have been faking. I think Blade has more votes at this point anyway, so I'll go with the group.


Vote Blade

[Blade6119]

i think its six, so its been a pleasure boys...hope you get fouts tonight or tomorrow

[KWhit]

I'm just not sure either Fouts or Blade are baddies.

I'm looking at the two quiestest people: bek and bug. Bek's history is that he customarily terse, but Bug usually has more to say.

vote Bug

I don't feel good about this vote at all, but I don't feel good about any choice right now.
Don't you see that you are throwing your vote away?

[Fouts]

Nope - I think we need to vote someone off, if only to save water. I just wish I had a little more time to make what I felt was a more educated guess. Instead I'm backing someone else fairly blindly here :(

Vote Fouts

All I've done is my job on this mission, and try to find evidence of the spawn. For that I should be lynched? Maybe I should just not say anything and coast through. Nah, how boring is that.

[RealDeal]

Don't you see that you are throwing your vote away?

Fair enough:

unvote Bug
vote Fouts

[KWhit]

i think its six, so its been a pleasure boys...hope you get fouts tonight or tomorrowI don't feel great about it. But I do think it's possible you're spawny.

[Blade6119]

All I've done is my job on this mission, and try to find evidence of the spawn. For that I should be lynched? Maybe I should just not say anything and coast through. Nah, how boring is that.

lol fouts, i hear ya on that one...i go balls to the wall every game, right or wrong, because it makes it soo much more fun

[pennywisesb]

Ok, we're running short on time so I'll cast my vote. I'm gonna Vote Blade basically because he seems to not care if we kill him (take one for the team) and I'm not completely convinced Fouts is bad.

[KWhit]

I think that's it. Dunno if we have enough votes to lynch or not.

[Blade6119]

Ok, we're running short on time so I'll cast my vote. I'm gonna Vote Blade basically because he seems to not care if we kill him (take one for the team) and I'm not completely convinced Fouts is bad.

While im ok dying so fouts dies tomorrow, this vote doesnt count due to it being 6:01

[KWhit]

I still don't trust Fouts or Saldana......

[RealDeal]

If we have to lynch either Fouts or Blade, I'd honestly rather lynch Fouts.

[Poli]

The captain be needing some time to review the thread. Some liein' be going on 'round here.

[Fouts]

i think its six, so its been a pleasure boys...hope you get fouts tonight or tomorrow

Well if you weren't so adamant in killing me asap, I would have voted for one of the lazy engineers. I'm just protecting myself and trying to help this crew.

If you are a survivor, then we are screwed because they will go after me tomorrow (another survivor).

[jeff061]

I should add I did stab King with a knife, not sure if that was public knowledge before Fouts brought it up....

[jeff061]

I think we may have hit the limit on Blade, You may not need to overrule anything Ardent.

[RealDeal]

Well if you weren't so adamant in killing me asap, I would have voted for one of the lazy engineers. I'm just protecting myself and trying to help this crew.

If you are a survivor, then we are screwed because they will go after me tomorrow (another survivor).

nah. If Blade is survivor, you'll live or be in a coma because you'll be scanned I'm guessing.

[Blade6119]

Well if you weren't so adamant in killing me asap, I would have voted for one of the lazy engineers. I'm just protecting myself and trying to help this crew.

If you are a survivor, then we are screwed because they will go after me tomorrow (another survivor).

As am i buddy, as am i...i go with my gut...yesterday it was vince, today it was you...i gathered evidence on both of you and posted...not much else a simple warden like me can do

[KWhit]

The captain be needing some time to review the thread. Some liein' be going on 'round here.
Yeah. Things got pretty crazy in the last 15 minutes or so.

[Fouts]

I should add I did stab King with a knife, not sure if that was public knowledge before Fouts brought it up....

Bingo, I'm saved! jeff, you are the man.

[Blade6119]

i want to make sure again we note that penny's vote for me doesnt count

[KWhit]

I think we may have hit the limit on Blade, You may not need to overrule anything Ardent.
But the warden is a pretty important position. I'd hate to lose Blade on a semi-random vote.

I just wanted to make sure we had enough votes for someone, since I don't think Ardent can overrule a non-lynch (but I could be wrong).

[Blade6119]

But the warden is a pretty important position. I'd hate to lose Blade on a semi-random vote.

I just wanted to make sure we had enough votes for someone, since I don't think Ardent can overrule a non-lynch (but I could be wrong).

Im pretty sure if i die brig goes bye bye...but i cant stop it now

[RealDeal]

Yeah, if we lose the warden, can we still fill the brig? That's huge if we can't.

[hoopsguy]

I'm bummed we got to this point today. Just wish that we had gotten the Schmidty scan in earlier. Wish that the site had been more reliable today. Wish that we were not bumbling around like this at the end when it really seems there should be evidence to work off of in the first 1300 posts.

[jeff061]

Then he should just pick Bek. There is not enough evidence for him to make a decision like this I think.
And unless Barkeep posted King was a stab victim(I forget), Fouts did witness King's death.

[MrBug708]

I'm just not sure either Fouts or Blade are baddies.

I'm looking at the two quiestest people: bek and bug. Bek's history is that he customarily terse, but Bug usually has more to say.

vote Bug

I don't feel good about this vote at all, but I don't feel good about any choice right now.

What's one less engineer eh? :(

[SnDvls]

Yeah, if we lose the warden, can we still fill the brig? That's huge if we can't.

promote a security person to warden

[Blade6119]

Then he should just pick Bek. There is not enough evidence for him to make a decision like this I think.
And unless Barkeep posted King was a stab victim(I forget), Fouts did witness King's death.

Bek is clean, ill stake my already dead life on it...i spent all last night hanging out with him and not once did i even get the slightest idea he was bad...

[SnDvls]

Blade- BTW it's post #201 by Barkeep I was looking for.

[Blade6119]

dola, edited to remove secret role info...if anyone is going to quote that message i ask they do it without secret role info in it...not fair to bek

[KWhit]

And unless Barkeep posted King was a stab victim(I forget), Fouts did witness King's death.
I don't think Barkeep posted that. This may in fact remove my suspicion of Fouts.

[RealDeal]

I can only promote a private, and we are out of privates.

[jeff061]

I'd prefer to let the votes be. But whatever.

[Blade6119]

I can only promote a private, and we are out of privates.

So that means the brig is gone...best of luck in the free now boys...now what are we going to do with all the medical marijuana i confiscated

[RealDeal]

The Captain can do whatever he wants anyway:

The Captain may change the person to be executed, regardless of the vote (and even if no one was scheduled to be executed). This triggers a night vote for Mutiny (see Executions – Mutiny above). This order must be sent to the GM at least 30 minutes before the voting deadline and may be conditional (example: If Pete, change execution to Bob, otherwise do not change). 1 point

[jeff061]

He needed to get it in by 8:30, correct?

[Poli]

I still be lost boys. Are we ate a stalemate, or is it that me boys have chosen someone to die?

[RealDeal]

If AE can't change that vote and Blade dies, I think we fucked up bad.

[Blade6119]

By my count:
Blade6119 - Fouts, Sundvls, Mr. Bug, Jeff, Kwhit
Fouts - Blade6119, Saldana, Hoops, Realdeal
Schmidty - Pass
Penny - Vince

if im not missing any valid votes or changes, its 5-4-1-1

[Blade6119]

which means right now no one dies...need 6 i think

[Poli]

By my count:
Blade6119 - Fouts, Sundvls, Mr. Bug, Jeff, Kwhit
Fouts - Blade6119, Saldana, Hoops, Realdeal
Schmidty - Pass
Penny - Vince

if im not missing any valid votes or changes, its 5-4-1-1
Isn't this my choice then?

[KWhit]

Isn't this my choice then?
Looks like you had to have it in an hour ago.

[Blade6119]

Isn't this my choice then?

Its not a tie, so i dont think so...but you do have basically the duke power once a game to use where you can prob. get one of us lynched if im not mistaken...so, yes, i think so, but be aware it opens you up to mutiny

[jeff061]

I hope so. If so I suggest you re-read this page if you are considering Fouts.

[Blade6119]

I hope so. If so I suggest you re-read this page if you are considering Fouts.

wow, jeff is sure going to bat for fouts...didnt fouts clear you earlier in the game...that doesnt scream suspicious :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Poli]

Looks like you had to have it in an hour ago.EDT. It's past to change the execution. If it's up to me, I'll have to trust someone.

[jeff061]

Facts are facts Blade. Your the one who was trying to sell the idea that Fouts killed king.

[Blade6119]

Facts are facts Blade. Your the one who was trying to sell the idea that Fouts killed king.

I presented evidence i saw, you later refuted that...what evidence or facts has fouts put forward one me besides i pushed to kill fouts today??? :confused: :confused:

[jeff061]

I want blade dead just cause he used those annyoing emotes when I am using, gasp, solid evidence ;).