MLB The Show 17 Franchise Discussion Thread

[The Chef]

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I'll have a more detailed write up once I finish the month of May, which should be either tomorrow night or Wednesday sometime. Having said that it's been a rough month as we've gone 13-14 after going 19-7 in April, pretty much a carbon copy of what we did season one as we went 17-9 in April and 14-14 in May. The biggest disappointment is the power outage continues even with trading for Jose Abreu. I've had Abreu for 14 games and he has turned in a solid line (17/57, .298, 4 Runs, 9 RBI's, 4 BB's, 10 K's and 5 Doubles) but has yet to hit a single HR since the trade. He had 13 HR's in 38 games in Chicago and 0 in 14 games since coming to Seattle lol, to say I'm extremely disappointed so far would be an understatement. To add to it Kyle Seager has fallen off a cliff at the moment posting a .255 average and striking out at a far worse pace then he did in season one. Between Abreu not hitting for power and Seager not hitting at all it's not difficult to see why I'm struggling in the month of May.

The pitching has been solid still but Drew Smyly continues to resemble a dumpster fire more then a big league SP, other then him everyone else in the rotation has been pitching solid so far. The offense on the other hand has seen a steep decline between April and May, batting average is down 30 points, runs per is down nearly an entire run and we are striking out 40% more as well. Throw in the HR drought (1.27 per in April, 0.96 per in May) and it's probably a miracle I'm even sitting with a 13-14 record for May as it is.

Anyways I'll have full stats and standings within the next couple days once I wrap up the miserable month of May and hopefully start things right come June.

[Trent Booty]

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So I lost the ALDS to the Indians 3-1. My offense had a few HR each by Cano/Vogelbach/Seager/Haniger but they weren't very good overall through the playoffs. The lone star in the playoffs were Guillermo Heredia (.417 AVG, 1 HR) and James Paxton and Felix Hernandez. They were good, despite not getting very much run support. Paxton started game 1 and lost, Felix started game 2 and lost, then I started Paxton on short rest aand won, before having to go to Smyly in game 4 and losing. If we had won game 4, I would've likely gone Felix in game 5 to clinch it and I feel as if he would've pulled out a vintage Felix performance and we would've gone on the the ALCS against the Red Sox. The Indians would go on to defeat the Red Sox in the ALCS in 7 games and take on the Dodgers in the world series, who defeated the Indians in 6 games behind Kershaw's dominance and Seager being great in the WS to win the world series.

Playoff MVPs:
AL: OF Bradley Zimmer, Indians
NL: 3B Justin Turner, Dodgers

WS MVP:
SS Corey Seager, Dodgers

Here is the opening day roster for 2020:

Lineup:

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SS Jean Segura
LF Ben Gamel
2B Robinson Cano
DH Dan Vogelbach
3B Kyle Seager
RF Mitch Haniger
C Brock Williams vs. RHP/Mike Zunino vs. LHP
1B Evan White
CF Guillermo Heredia

Starting Rotation:

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Paxton
Felix
Marco Gonzales
Andrew Moore
Ariel Miranda

Bullpen:

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LR Emilio Pagan
RP Evan Marshall
RP Evan Scribner
RP Dan Altavilla
RP James Pazos
SU Tony Zych
CL Edwin Diaz

Right after this post I'll start writing out my top 30 prospects and info about them.

[Trent Booty]

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Was writing out the top 30 prospects for the 2020 season this afternoon and one wrong click (I don't even know what I hit) highlighted it all and another click deleted it all. I had just done the 20th ranked guy and I had a good paragraph for each guy so I unfortunately will not be re-writing all of that. I will just start playing the 2020 season and will update and big injuries/moves that I decide to make.

[BlueJays09]

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At the trade deadline with the Blue Jays who are sitting at 57-72 and find themselves 21.0 games back of first and 12.0 back of a WC spot. Decided to sell off some veterans and give the young guys a shot for the rest of August and September. Debating dealing Estrada / Howell as well or holding on to them for the rest of the season. Here are the trades:

1) Jose Bautista and Darwin Barney to Detroit for Anibal Sanchez, Arvicent Perez and Jose Azocar. The Tigers get a starting RF for their wild card run and a utility infielder for their bench. Toronto takes on the contract of Sanchez, who could start or come out the pen this year and next, plus two prospects (28 and 29 in the organization). Both will report to AA.

2) Traded Kevin Pillar to Cleveland for Erik Gonzalez and Mike Clevinger. Cleveland gets thier CF for now and the future, while Toronto get a 2B/SS player who will finish the year as the starting 2B with Travis out. He will get a good long look. Clevinger will report top AAA, but is expected to be up with the big club for a long look in September.

3) Traded Rease McGuire to Tampa for Nathan Eovaldi and Jamie Schultz. McGuire will add a very solid defensive catcher with decent AA batting numbers. Eovaldi was playing for AAA and gives the Jays some depth at SP to finish the season. He will be evaluated and possibly given a contract for next year if the Jay's brass like what the see. Toronto also gets a hard throwing RP for their minor leagues. He will report to AA.

Released: Michael Saunders, Taylor Cole, Eric Fryer, Blake McFarland.

New Lineup to finish the year: Vs. Right / Left
CF Hernandez
3B Donaldson
1B Smoak
DH Morales
RF Pearce
C Montero (Martin DL) / Ohlman
LF Carrera / Aoki
SS Goins / Gonzalez
2B Gonzalez / Refsnyder
Bench: Coghlan

Pitching Rotation and Bullpen
SP: Sanchez, Stroman, Estrada, Happ, Eovaldi
RP: Osuna (CL), Biagini, Sanchez, Tepera, Howell, Barnes, Loup

Expected September Call-Ups:
- Tellez, Tulo, Travis, Schultz, Maile - 60 day DL for rest of the season.
- Dalton Pompey, Anthony Alford, Dwight Smith Jr., Jason Leblebijian, Raffy Lopez, Darrell Ceciliani.
- Mike Bolsinger, Jeff Beliveau, Nick Tepesch, Mike Clevinger, Chad Girodo

Questionable for remaining September Call up spots:
- Lourdes Gurriel Jr., Rickie Weeks (Minor league deal), Connor Greene, Chris Rowley, Will Browning, John Stilson, Chris Smith, Jamie Schultz, Tim Mayza, TJ House, Jon Berti, Roemon Fields.

[Sumodeads]

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Los Angeles Dodgers 2019 End of July Update

After the All-Star break we went just 7-6 to finish the month including being shutout twice at home by Minnesota as part of a 4-6 Homestand. With a MLB best record of 66-37, we sit just two games ahead of the Giants for first in the West.

This month could be renamed YU-LY as Yu Darvish went off! As my #1 and #2 aces ERA's went up a bit, Darvish slashed his from 4.90 to 3.81 with 5 awesome starts to earn pitcher of the month honors. In 5 starts he went 4-1 with a 0.89 ERA while striking out 50 batters!

Top MVP-candidate Bryce Harper had quite the month himself as he marches towards history. He won player of the month for the second time this year(April) by hitting .356 with 16 HR, 25 RBI and 28 runs scored. He sits at .342, 49 HR and 113 RBI on the season with 2 months to go!!! Bellinger isn't too far behind with .319, 44 HR and 91 RBI.

We start August with a day off before traveling to Arizona for a 3 game set. Mostly non-divisional opponents for the month . Next month will be the opposite.

[HozAndMoose]

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End of April (+ 1 game) 2022

Now this is a team i can enjoy. We went from what i would consider severely under performing. To very much over performing. We sit at 16-8 and lead the AL Central by 2.5 games over the Indians. We have the 3rd best record in the AL and 4th best overall. A lot of it could just be a lucky schedule. We have only played 5 games against a team with a winning record so far. We are 4-1 i those games though.

April Results

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The offense so far is the biggest reason I think we might be over performing. 7 of our 11 starters are batting over .300. 2 more are batting .275+. 3 guys have an OBP over .400. 3 more have an OBP over .375. 1 has an OBP over .350 and 2 more are in the .320s. And maybe even more surprising is the 6 guys with a slugging % over .530. As a team we are hitting .301/.364/.489. Thats 2nd, 3rd, and 3rd overall. We are 6th in doubles, 7th in triples and 9th in HR. All of that puts us at 10th in runs scored with 118.

• Raul Mondesi - .366/.434/.570, 2 HR, 18 RBI, 5 SB (93 AB)
• Peter O'Brien - .349/.417/.558, 2 HR, 7 RBI (43 AB)
• Mark Springer - .326/.376/.547, 4 HR, 12 RBI (86 AB)
• Corey Toups - .316/.402/.480, 3 HR, 12 RBI (98 AB)
• Hunter Dozier - .313/.389/.563, 5 HR, 13 RBI (80 AB)
• Chris Campos - .308/.389/.538, 5 HR, 17 RBI (104 AB)
• Meibrys Vilorai - .300/.352/.400 (50 AB)
• Ryan O'Hearn - .286/.321/.531, 4 HR, 11 RBI (49 AB)
• Bubba Starling - .275/.327/.473, 2 HR (91 AB)
• Jorge Soler - .247/.280/.360, 3 HR, 13 RBI (89 AB)
• Whit Merrifield - .214/.267/.286 (14 AB)
• Sandy Leon - .205/.262/.308, 1 HR (39 AB)

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Mondesi has been great. He leads all SS in WAR with 1.5. He hasn't been running as much once he gets on but he hasn't really had to. He wont keep this up all year but should easily be able to improve on what he did last year at t he least.

O'Brien and O'Hearn haven't had all that many AB since they split time at 1st. But both have been solid in the ones the ones they have had. I expect O'Brien's AVG and OBP to drop a bit. O'Hearn should stay around where he is and could up his OBP.

Mark Springer is finally hitting. Took a couple years but its come around. No stolen bases but again hasn't really had to do that. Can easily rip off 15-20 in a season though. I expect his line to drop a bit as well. ,280/.350/450 is about what I expect from him.

Toups more than anything has been good defensively. Only 1 error so far while playing 2nd a a couple games at SS. He averages 15 errors per 162 games so if he can keep those down with the offense he is putting up he would take a big step. Still the best 2B we have had since like the 90's.

Hunter Dozier might have seen what I said about him at the end of last season. Out here trying to show that he is indeed an everyday player. By WAR he is our 3rd best player. Id put him a little ahead of Toups though. Tied with Chris Campos for the team lead in HR. Finally looking like he did back in his rookie season in 18. Even if he falls off a cliff its helped Pectol get some time to mature down in AAA.

Speaking of Chris Campos. Where the hell has this power come from? 5 HR in 104 AB. Her had 3 in 321 AB last year. Has spent most of his time at DH with a few starts at 3rd. Knew when we drafted him he was our future lead off hitter and he has done a damn good job of it so far.

Meibrys Viloria has been the better catcher for us so far this year. Gonna give Leon a few more weeks but if he doesn't pick it up Viloria could start taking some of the starts from him against lefties.

Bubba Starling is doing Bubba Starling things. Solid butt not great offensively with damn good defense. Tied with Dozier for the most innings played and no errors so far.

Jorge Soler has been the biggest disappointment so far. But we couldn't really expect much as he had played just 65 games the last 2 years. So far so good this year as far as injuries go.

Whit is here to give guys days off. As of now thats it. Cant really say he has been bad offensively when he only has 14 AB. He can play everywhere except SS and catcher so he has value in case someone goes down. And its exactly what we need with him being the only real bench guy on the team.

As good as the offense has been the the pitching has been just as good. of our starters have an ERA under 3. We are 4th with a 3.07 ERA. 3rd with 3 shutouts. Tied with the Mets for 1st in HR allowed with 17 and 11th in walks. 4

• Danny Duffy - 5-1, 2.39 ERA, 1.01 WHIP, 40 SO in 37.2 IP
• Mariano Parra - 4-0, 1.31 ERA, 1.05 WHIP, 20 SO in 34.1 IP
• Hank Steele - 1-2, 2.70 ERA, 1.30 WHIP, 27 SO in 30 IP
• Kyle Zimmer - 2-1, 2.25 ERA, 1.39 WHIP, 26 SO in 28 IP
• Elroy Dowling - 0-1, 5.28 ERA, 1.57 WHIP, 10 SO in 15.1 IP

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Duffy doesn't have the lowest ERA. But overall still the ace of the staff. He had a fantastic game in his 2nd start. Going up against the Astros he went 7 innings. Gave up 3 hits and 2 walks while striking out 12.

Mariano Parra seems to be back on track after a semi disappointing sophomore season. It wont be long before he takes over the top spot in the rotation from Duffy.

Hank Steele started off a little slow. Gave up 5 runs to the Astros in 4.1 IP in his first start. 2 were unearned though. Since then he has given up 6 runs in 25.2 IP.

Kyle Zimmer has to be the biggest surprise. He looked good at the end of last year but he has always found a way to screw things up. So far so good. Lets hope it lasts.

Worst starter clearly has been Elroy Dowling. He didnt make his first start until April 19th though. With off days early were able to skip a couple and get Duffy out there more. He gave up 3 runs in 4 IP his first start. Came back and gave up 2 in 6.1 IP. And fell off again in his last start giving up 4 in 5 IP. He will get a little longer to fix things. Not a whole lot though.

The pen hasn't been all that great. Not terrible. But could be better. 33 runs allowed in 64.2 IP. Good for a 4.50 ERA. If you take Staumont out it drops to 4.29 in 53.1 IP. A lot of room for improvement. But its only a couple guys really dragging it down.

• Mike Minor - 0-1, 6.00 ERA, 1.75 WHIP, 10 SO in 12 IP
• Josh Staumont - 0-0, 5.56 ERA, 2.47 WHIP, 15 SO in 11.1 IP
• Brian Flynn - 1-0, 5.00 ERA, 1.56 WHIP, 6 SO in 9 IP
• Jesse Porrazzo - 0-1, 4.15 ERA, 1.73 WHIP, 7 SO in 8.2 IP
• Matt Strahm - 1-1, 4.32 ERA, 1.32 WHIP, 10 SO in 8.1 IP
• Seth Maness - 0-0, 1.23 ERA, 0.82 WHIP, 4 SO in 7,1 IP
• Pedro Baez - 1-0, 3.86 ERA, 1.43 WHIP, 7 SO in 7 IP
• Scott Alexander - 1-0, 1.69 ERA, 1.69 WHIP, 6 SO in 5.1 IP

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Minor is the biggest problem so far. 34 and in the last year of his deal.
If he doesn't straighten it out soon he may not have a spot on the team any more.

Josh Staumont isnt doing great. But the only time he comes in is if someone blows it early or we have a massive lead late. Anyone I bring up I would want to start so he needs to do something special to get sent down. \

As for the others its a little to early to really judge them. 2 scoreless outing and a lot of them could have an ERA under 3. Strahm has blown 2 saves so he needs to get that under control. But for the most part every is fine for now. There are some guys doing well down in AAA though so they cant keep struggling to much longer.

Only 1 day off between now and the end of May. Having only 1 real bench guy could start to become a problem here. 30 games left before the break. 16 of them at home. And 16 will be against the division. Already 8-1 so far so hopefully we can keep that up and build a lead here early. 10 games against a team with a winning record and 13 more against a team within 2 games of .500. We should start to know for sure what we are capable of by the time the draft rolls around. That will be my next update. We will have the #2 pick.

[Trent Booty]

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Seattle Mariners Franchise

2020 went to **** pretty soon after the ASB so I will spare you the stats, etc.

In the offseason, the Tigers signed George Springer and the Yankees signed Mike Trout (!!!), so it weakened the division rivals Astros and Angels, which is great for me as they both punished me in 2020!

Here is the opening day roster for 2021:

Lineup:
SS Jean Segura (gonna move to 2B when Cano retires)
RF Mitch Haniger
3B Kyle Seager (all star in 2020)
DH Dan Vogelbach (all-star in 2020)
2B Robinson Cano (75 hits away from 3000, 10 HR from 400)
C Brock Williams (2nd in ROY in 2020)
1B Evan White
CF Kyle Lewis
LF Ben Gamel

Bench:
C Mike Zunino
OF Guillermo Heredia
UTL Shawn O'Malley
UTL Taylor Motter

Rotation:
James Paxton (3rd in 2020 Cy Young voting, all star in 2020
Felix Hernandez (6 SO away from 3000, all star in 2020)
Marco Gonzales
Andrew Moore
Jose Spanos

Bullpen:
LR Ariel Miranda
RP Chase De Jong (former top prospect as a starter)
RP James Pazos (LOOGY)
RP Tony Zych
RP Dan Altavilla
SU Thyago Viera (made debut in 2020)
CL Edwin Diaz (164 career saves at age 27)

I'll probably spend tomorrow morning writing up a top-30 prospects list as my organization has changed a lot since my last list in 2019.

[BennyXavier]

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I went first-to-third with Chris Carter on a hit and run play in my Yankees franchise this morning

Just wanted to put that out there

[NDAlum]

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2023 End of Season Update
Final record: 76-86, 5th in NL East (worst record in my 7 seasons running the team)
NL East champ: Philadelphia Phillies 87-75
WS Champ: Texas Rangers def Phillies in 7 games, Trevor Story is WS MVP and he hit 7 HR's

2023 Offensive recap
We had a very healthy lineup over the course of the season and our big change was shipping 1B Matt Thaiss to the Indians. As a team we were a top 15 offense who used gap to gap power, good patience with speed to produce runs. Bryce Harper and Carlos Correa once again produced some very solid numbers for the season to continue their legacy. Harper is closing in on 400 HR and he'll turn 31 next season. Correa will like surpass 250 HR in 2024 as he turns 29 and will start to hit the back side of his career. 3B Richard Barnard followed up winning NL ROtY with an even better season as he hit .283 with 30 HR 99 RBI 22 SB. He improved in every category and displayed elite fielding ability. 2B Miguel Fuentes continues to be a speed threat (34 SB) and hits for average (.277). LF Steve Schultz failed to show any power and he's a candidate to not be on the roster next season. We need Austin Meadows and Miguel Vasquez to stay healthy in 2024 as they missed substantial time this season with injury. At 1B Ryan Suggs filled in nicely for the departed Thaiss. He hit over .300 in 171 AB's.

2023 Pitching Review
We sucked, period. Finishing 27th in ERA and 29th in HR allowed typically means you ended the season with a poor W-L and that's exactly what happened. Two-time Cy Young winner Alex Reyes had a horrific season posting an ERA just under 5. We shipped out Carlos Martinez who was having a solid season but it was time to just get some value for him. Guy Hogsett was the lone highlight of the rotation posting a 2.83 ERA for a 2nd consecutive sub-3 ERA season. He didn't get run support finishing 7-8 on the year. Rookie Pedro Sanchez showed some promise but his 4.20 ERA reflects his inconsistency which we hope he'll improve upon since he's only 22. Kurt Lewers ate up innings but a 4.61 ERA and 16 L's has his future in Atlanta looking bleak even though it's his first poor season for us. Our bullpen was pretty inconsistent as usual. Michael Kopech established himself as our closer with 36 saves and 78 K in 56.2 IP. His ERA wasn't great (4.45) but he flashed potential dominance in a closer role. We're going to likely retool this pen heading into 2024.

[NDAlum]

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2024 Update: 55 games in + MLB Draft

We're 30-25 at this point in the season and pretty optimistic about the last 107 games. Our lineup is trending in the right direction as a few players jumped to the MLB club. OF Diego Marquez and Antonio Zapata appear to be a very promising platoon in LF and 2B/OF Enrique Acevedo is a perfect guy off the bench and spot start. The only players struggling in our lineup at this point are 3B Richard Barnard (.239 avg) and 1B Ryan Suggs (.232 avg and only 9 RBI in 164 AB). Carlos Correa is the MVP at this point with a .310/.399/.507 line with 39 RBI and 5 SB at this point.

Pitching has done a 180 from last season and after re-tooling the bullpen they are the reason why we're a top 10 ERA club at this point. Rookie SP Julius McFarland has been the surprise of the season so far as he's compiled a 6-1 mark with 3.26 ERA at this point. The new faces in the bullpen have all pitched their butts off:

Alex Wood - 3.42 ERA 1.18 WHIP in 23.2 IP
Dillon Tate - 2.78 ERA 1.39 WHIP in 32.1 IP
Carl Edwards Jr. - 2.82 ERA 1.16 WHIP in 22.1 IP

Rookie setup man Francisco Dias, a comp pick in the 2020 draft, is lights out in his MLB rookie season. He's got a 0.64 ERA with a save in 14 IP. Veteran Jake Reed has a 0.55 ERA in 16.1 IP. Michael Kopech is taking a path to elite closer as he's 15/15 in save opportunities this year with a 1.88 ERA. His strikeouts are down early in the season though with only 9 K/9.

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2024 MLB Draft

Round 1 Pick 9 - SS Anthony Berger, 20 yrs old (73 OVR 91 POT)
Berger was a blue chip prospect who projected as a very safe pick. He's the 2nd best all-around player in the draft. He's a true 5-tool player and looks to be the heir to the throne at SS whenever Carlos Correa hangs it up. He might even push Correa to 3B if he dominates the minors.

Round 2 Pick 9 - LHP Tim Hopkins, 19 yrs old (54 OVR 87 POT)
He's 6-5 with a high ceiling but he's extremely raw. We're hoping he throws harder down the line and he's a long shot to be a strikeout pitcher. He's going to need quite a bit of work to become a future rotation guy.

Round 3 Pick 9 - RHP Jamison Bass, 19 yrs old (64 OVR 74 POT)
Bass is another 6-5 pitcher who already possesses a plus fastball. With his velocity he seems like a good candidate to move to the pen if his offensive repertoire doesn't translate to multiple inning success.

Round 4 Pick 9 - RHP Alex Castro, 22 yrs old (65 OVR 76 POT)
Our 3rd 6-5 pitcher in a row and he's the most likely to be on the roster at some point during 2025. He possesses an upper 90s fastball and great break for his cutter. He projects as a solid bullpen arm and possibly an 8th inning guy.

Round 5 Pick 9 - RHP Richard Jimenez, 22 yrs old (62 OVR 70 POT)
We break the string of 6-5 pitchers by selecting a 6-2 pitcher. However he's the 3rd straight flame throwing righty who seems destined for the bullpen. He doesn't project as a guy to miss many bats so we'll see how he fares in the minors.

Round 6 Pick 9 - CF John Ramirez, 22 yrs old (53 OVR 84 POT)
He's a complete project and unfortunately he's an old project. Despite his blazing speed he isn't a great fielder which is odd. He might be a contact guy down the road but don't look for him to be in a Braves uniform any time soon.

Round 7 Pick 9 - RHP Jeffrey McLaughlin, 22 yrs old (51 OVR 76 POT)
We're not expecting much from him but maybe he can show some good things in the minors to one day get a shot at the big league bullpen.

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Draft Thoughts
Having Berger fall to #9 made this draft an automatic A. He seems like a lock to be an MLB starter in the near future and has all the tools to potentially be an All-Star. We were able to stock the system with some plus-velocity RHP and added a nice project LHP in Hopkins and potentially in CF Ramirez. I'm pretty happy with this as all players have some type of potential to make an impact.

[The Chef]

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Well the poor play continued to end the month of May as we finished the month with a 13-15 record and 32-22 overall. I literally can't hit for any consistent power (HOF difficulty with directional hitting can be a real chore at times and very unforgiving) and for whatever reason Jose Abreu can not hit a HR regardless of his power ratings. Kyle Seager continues the horrific slump he's been in as his average dropped by 70 points in the process, Mitch Haniger has been a complete bust after getting a new contract in the offseason and Franklin Gutierrez was brought in to face LHP and, again, despite his ratings he's been terrible at the only thing his ratings say he should be able to do. I can't get clutch hits, I can't drive guys in, I can't hit for power and I literally can't win at home to save my life (13-15) yet on the road I'm a juggernaut (19-8). This is the strangest team I've played with, ratings wise we should be hitting more consistently as I built it for high contact sprinkled with power bats but the power is obsolete and if the high contact bats struggle at all suddenly I can't score to save my life. I finished the month of May being swept at home by NYY and opened June with a 4-3 loss at home to Texas, if we don't wake up and start scoring some runs it's going to be a long season and I'll be selling off every asset the team has at the deadline.

Hitting

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Pitching

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AL Standings

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NL Standings

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We are still very much in the race for the division but with the offense really struggling at the moment and our inability to win games at home we will be lucky to finish the season with an above .500 record. Something has to give, we clearly have guys hitting but we have quite a few doing absolutely nothing and those guys are rally killers in every sense of the word. Between Haniger, Gutierrez, Seager and Prado we can't get anything going with any level of consistency. I think what hurts the most is Prado and Gutierrez were brought in to face LHP specifically and both are hitting like trash cans. The real perplexing issue is my teams inability to hit at home, we've got 4 guys hitting above .300 at home meanwhile we have 7 hitting above that mark on the road. Ben Gamel is hitting .250 at home but .333 on the road, Marlette is hitting .207 at home but .341 on the road, Gosselin .187 at home and .333 on the road, Prado .186 at home and .325 on the road, Haniger .172 at home and .250 on the road and last Gutierrez .132 at home and .241 on the road. As you can see there is a epidemic with hitting at home apparently.

Now I will admit some of those issues are the back drop in Seattle. With certain pitchers I literally can't see the ball until it's at the plate which leads to basically swinging blind for a majority of the game until the sun sets and the lights come on then I can see the ball better. I've tried changing cameras and it improves my vision at seeing the ball but I can't judge low pitches at all and end up swinging at junk constantly because of it so it's basically one problem or another. If I could find a good camera for home games and just flip between that one and my usual one when I'm on the road I'd probably be doing at least a bit better but so far it's been impossible to find a camera for home games that allows me to read pitches like the one I've been using for months.

[Trent Booty]

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Seattle Mariners
Top 30 Prospects - 2021
(first 10, 11-30 are in spoiler tags so it doesn't take up a lot of space)

1.) SP Jose Spanos - MLB
- After spending the last two years up and down between AAA/MLB, Spanos made the team as a 5th starter, and will look to lock down a spot in the rotation and potentially become a top of the rotation guy. (Currently a top-50 prospect)

2.) INF Luis Guillen - A
- Our first round pick in 2020, the 18-year old Guillen is a shortstop, but lack of arm strength (45) could mean a move to 2B. if he gets an even average arm, he could eventually move to 3B as well. He'll spend all of 2021 in A and probably start 2022 in AA. (currently a top-50 prospects)

3.) CF Sonny Jackson - A
- The 19 year old was our second round draft pick in 2020, and surprisingly could also play 2B and SS, but a huge lack of arm strength (38) could cost him CF/SS and make him more of a LF/2B hybrid. His bat will find him a spot somewhere in the lineup at all times (currently a top-50 prospect)

4.) SS Alberto Pacheco - AAA
- Still only 20 years old, Pacheco has made it quickly through the minors and was awarded a spot on the 40-man roster out of spring training. He can play SS and 2B, so he'll be able to fill in for Cano (age 38) and Segura (31) in September at the latest. Cano is likely retiring soon, but still has 3 years on his massive contract, so Pacheco could potentially be our SS of the future once he retires and Segura moves to 2B. (currently a top-50 prospect)

5.) SP Corey Spicer - AAA
- Spicer, the 20-year old, was dominating AA throughout 2020 as a 19-year old so he'll start 2021 in the AAA rotation. He will look to make the 40-man roster in 2022 and potentially sneak into he rotation in Seattle. (currently a top-50 prospect)

6.) OF Douglas Francis - AAA
- The lefty brother of Robert Francis, Douglas has seemed to progress faster than Robert and has really impressed with his bat. He led the PCL in batting average and on base percentage, and will continue leading off for Tacoma in 2021. After making his cieling higher than his brother, he might potentially leave him in the dust and make his way to Seattle by next year.

7.) SP Sam Carlson - AAA
- The 22 year old right handed pitcher who was drafted out of high school in 2017 will start in AAA for the first time in his career after finishing a strong 2020 in AA. He was also rewarded with a 40-man roster spot, which means he'll likely make his MLB debut and then some extra starts in Seattle in September at the latest.


8.) SP Nick Neidert - AAA
- After making his debut in 2019, Neidert has yet to become a part of Seattle's rotation, instead only making 7 starts over the last two years. However, his 2.33 career ERA in those 7 starts means he's likely the 6th guy in the rotation and will make some more starts in Seattle this year, and if someone struggles, he's first in line to take a crack in their spot.

9.) 3B Solomon Bennett - A
- The 19 year old was drafted in the third round of 2020, and the 6'5 frame of this young man means a future switch to a 1B/DH type player might be in order, as his fielding is sub par. However his bat more than makes up for it. He'll likely spend all of 2021 in A and start 2022 in AA.


10.) OF Kyle Lewis - MLB
- After making his MLB debut in as a 23 year old in 2019 and hitting .191 with 2 HR in his brief September call up, Lewis came back shortly after the 2020 all star break and hit .229 with 3 HR and 4 SB, showing his threat in the batters box and on the base paths. After hitting over .290 in 2021 spring training, Lewis has been given the chance to play CF everyday in Seattle over Guillermo Heredia, who will serve as the 4th OF.

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11.) OF Robert Francis - AAA
- After his twin brother Douglas out-shined him in 2020, Robert will look to improve and use his fall compared to his brother to motivate him going into the 2021 season in AAA, where both he and his brother will be playing every day in the outfield.

12.) 3B/2B Joe Rizzo - AA
- After starting 2018 in AA, Rizzo has struggled to find success, and has been back and forth between A and AA ever since. After spending time playing LF in AA in 2020, Rizzo will quit the OF expiriment and go back to playing 3B but will also spend time at 2B due to his fit there with his smaller frame (5'9) and lack of power.

13.) RP Clem Gates - AAA
- After being drafted in 2018, Clem Gates, a lefty, started 2020 in AA and never looked back. Now in AA to start 2021, there is hope that he shoot through AAA and can eventually make his MLB debut this season, as he is currently on the 40-man roster. He has a opportunity to potentially replace James Pazos as the main LOOGY in the future, should Pazos leave/get traded/start to decline.

14.) INF Freddie Velasquez - A
- After being drafted as a 3B in 2020, the 18-year old late round has surprised and played well above his draft stock. He will spend all of 2021 in A and get the chance to start 2022 in AA as a 19-year old. He can also play 2B/SS so his versatility will only help him in the future.

15.) INF Xavier Richardson - AAA
- Despite not being as liked as a prospect, Richardson and Mariners #4 prospect Alberto Pacheco have a lot in common. Both were signed as shortstops in 2017, both are currently 20 years old, and both will be playing in AAA to start 2021 after making the 40-man roster out of spring training. Both will likely make their MLB debuts in September, perhaps on the same date, on the same team.

16.) 2B/SS Bryson Brigman - AA
- The now 25 year old has since been passed up by younger and perhaps better talent, but that doesn't mean Brigman can't be a useful middle infielder one day. The glove-first prospect will look to improve his bat before making the jump to AAA.

17.) 2B Robin Zimmerman - A
- The 23 year old will start his first full season in A, and will likely stay there all year. He has the potential to be a late bloomer and not make the MLB under his late 20s and at least be a platoon guy at 2B. He doesn't have any other position due to low fielding skills and will likely never play anywhere other than 2B.

18.) 3B Michael Clement - A
- The 18 year old will start in A but has the chance to move up if injury occurs and could impress due to his ability to effectively run the bases. He isn't the fastest player in the game, shown by his ability to play 3B instead of OF or middle infield positions, but he is good t stealing bases and knowing when to run and when not to.

19.) INF Rick Winkler - A
- The 21 year old will likely spend all of 2021 in A and will look to improve his hitting. Although he does have some impressive power at times, he needs to work on putting the ball in play more and getting on base.

20.) OF Luis Liberato - AAA
- The now 25-year old will likely never be anything more than a 4th OF, as shown by him being a 4th OF in AAA this year, but his strong defense and speed make him valuable off the bench in late game situations.

21.) SP Chuck Rogers - AA
- The 21 year old from Germany will start 2021 in AA for the first time, and will hope to have success there and improve his stock in the Mariners organization.

22.) UTL Charlie Trotter - AAA
- the 23 year old already has an advanced bat and speed, similar to the Francis brothers, but his versatility makes him comparable to current M's utility guys Taylor Motter and Shawn O'Malley. Trotter can play everywhere but 1B/SS/C, so that should definitely help him make the majors as a nice bench player within the next couple of years.

23.) RP Reggie Reeves - AA
- The 20 year old reliever who can touch well over 100 on his fastball will look to cut down on the walks in AA and hopefully that will help him get to AAA. His amazing fastball will hope to shut down AA hitters this year and help him make the majors at some point in 2022.

24.) SP Don Fisler - AA
- The 22 year old struggled early in 2020, but finished strong and will hope to carry that momentum into 2021 and maybe see some time in AAA by the end of the year.

25.) SP Luis Cruz - A
- The 24 year old already has 4 advanced pitches, and could easily make quick work of the low minors and end up in AAA by the end of 2022.

25.) OF Victor Beltran- AA
- The 21 year old speedster will look to hit better in AA than he did last year, as that's the key to him progressing to AAA. He already is a gold glove caliber CF and can run for days as long as he gets on base. He is at best a gold glove CF but more likely a 4th OF type, if he ever makes it that is.

26.) C John Peterson - A
- The 19-year old catcher spent some time in AA filling in for injured catchers, but failed to hit over .200 so he was quickly sent back when the injured players ahead of him got healthy. Only, 19, he has plenty of time to work on it and should he get another chance in AA this season or next, he'll be more prepared.

27.) RF/LF Luis Martinez - AAA
- The 21 year old corner outfielder already has great power and can field his position very well. He just needs to cut back on strikeouts and focus more on putting the ball in play, and then the doubles and even triples will come and he'll be hitting for a higher AVG. He has an outside shot of making the 40-man roster in 2022 and eventually making his debut. He has a lower ceiling than most of our guys but he could be a nice pinch hitter/4th OF type in the majors.

28.) RP Chad Castaneda - AAA
- The 25 year old has spent more time in the minors than he would've hoped, but the reliever has finally made it to AAA and actually made the 40-man roster out of spring training. It's not really if, it's when will he make his MLB debut. He has the potential to stick around as a middle reliever, and his ceiling is as a 7th/8th inning set up guy.

29.) INF Rayder Ascaino - AA
- The 25 year old will spend 2021 playing alongside Brysin Brigman in AA, as both look to make up for lost time and conquer AA pitching, as both have already proved they are more than capable with the glove, but the bat is the key to either of them making it farther than AAA in their careers.

30.) OF James Bong - AA
- The 24 year old with the...interesting last name will start 2021 in AA. He is pretty all around as a player, with plus speed his only better than average tool. If he can improve in any areas of his game besides his speed, he will improve his chances of one day making a MLB roster.

Guys outside the top 30 (in no order):
- SP Von Stone - AA
- SP Joaquin Gonzales - AA
- OF Ike Bloom - AA (speedy, similar to James Bong)
- SP Lance Hogssett - A
- SP Charlie Hilton - A
- SP Adrain Lopez - AAA
- RP Bill Bolton - AA (LHP)

If you took the time to read any of this, even if it's just the first ten guys...thank you. I really like ranking/projecting players, half made up, half still real. It's super fun to spend about a hour and go through and look at potentials mixed with depth at the position, etc. and make a top-30 list. I hope anyone enjoyed it Now I can finally play opening day!

[RogueHominid]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Franchise Discussion Thread

I just finished the 2023 season in an ATL franchise and it took me seven seasons to win the WS. I just finished the playoffs, during which I swept MIA in the NLCS and BAL in the WS.

I decided to focus on roster building for the first several years, putting my focus on the draft and player development. I simmed most of the seasons and played the post-seasons if I made it that far.

I also decided to keep it conservative in FA and try to build from within.

The loaded farm system gave me lots to work with, but it took good drafting and 5 seasons to make the playoffs. I lost in the NLDS two years in a row, once to CHC and once to SF, before my WS run.

During that time, Freddie Freeman played 156 games or more each season, won 3 NL MVPs, and averaged 35 HR and 95 RBI per season. His original contract went up after year 5, but I decided to re-up him for 3 more years and go for broke to try to get him a ring.

Here are some great development stories:

Acuna: 92 OVR, a couple of AS games, and for the last 3 years he's been averaging .280 with 22 HR and 70 RBI in the leadoff spot.

Albies: 93 OVR, a couple of AS games, great durability, elite D, and a .300 season in 2023.

Allard: 91 OVR, an AS game, a CY Young in 2023 after a 17-4 year with a 1.04 WHIP in 206 IP. 64-45 record since coming up in 2017 and pitching full time in 2019.

Soroka: 84 OVR, a couple of AS games, a 200+ IP track record the last 3 years, and a 62-60 record.

I also nailed some draft picks, especially the first couple of seasons' worth:

Erich Ramirez, LF: Now 87 OVR and a 3-year average of .275, 17 HR, 70 RBI while hitting 5th. He was my first overall draft choice in the franchise and he's started since 2019.

Kent McClughen, 2B: Now 90 OVR. Late round pick who has made 2 ASG and who has averaged .270 with 19 HR and 75 RBI the last 3 years.

Dwight Mosquera, P: Now 91 OVR. Late round pick who has made an WSG, gone 57-45 with a sub-3 ERA and who has logged 190+ IP the last 4 of the last 5 years.

It's been a ton of fun building the team this way, and winning the WS was all the more rewarding for how long it took.

Now I'm going to have to let some of these youngsters go, since I can't afford them all, and I'll have to start the rebuild all over again, only this time with less sure-fire talent on the farm.

Good times. I'm amazed at how well the game plays this deep into the mode. It's still as immersive as ever.

[bravesfan1984]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Franchise Discussion Thread

I just finished the 2023 season in an ATL franchise and it took me seven seasons to win the WS. I just finished the playoffs, during which I swept MIA in the NLCS and BAL in the WS.

I decided to focus on roster building for the first several years, putting my focus on the draft and player development. I simmed most of the seasons and played the post-seasons if I made it that far.

I also decided to keep it conservative in FA and try to build from within.

The loaded farm system gave me lots to work with, but it took good drafting and 5 seasons to make the playoffs. I lost in the NLDS two years in a row, once to CHC and once to SF, before my WS run.

During that time, Freddie Freeman played 156 games or more each season, won 3 NL MVPs, and averaged 35 HR and 95 RBI per season. His original contract went up after year 5, but I decided to re-up him for 3 more years and go for broke to try to get him a ring.

Here are some great development stories:

Acuna: 92 OVR, a couple of AS games, and for the last 3 years he's been averaging .280 with 22 HR and 70 RBI in the leadoff spot.

Albies: 93 OVR, a couple of AS games, great durability, elite D, and a .300 season in 2023.

Allard: 91 OVR, an AS game, a CY Young in 2023 after a 17-4 year with a 1.04 WHIP in 206 IP. 64-45 record since coming up in 2017 and pitching full time in 2019.

Soroka: 84 OVR, a couple of AS games, a 200+ IP track record the last 3 years, and a 62-60 record.

I also nailed some draft picks, especially the first couple of seasons' worth:

Erich Ramirez, LF: Now 87 OVR and a 3-year average of .275, 17 HR, 70 RBI while hitting 5th. He was my first overall draft choice in the franchise and he's started since 2019.

Kent McClughen, 2B: Now 90 OVR. Late round pick who has made 2 ASG and who has averaged .270 with 19 HR and 75 RBI the last 3 years.

Dwight Mosquera, P: Now 91 OVR. Late round pick who has made an WSG, gone 57-45 with a sub-3 ERA and who has logged 190+ IP the last 4 of the last 5 years.

It's been a ton of fun building the team this way, and winning the WS was all the more rewarding for how long it took.

Now I'm going to have to let some of these youngsters go, since I can't afford them all, and I'll have to start the rebuild all over again, only this time with less sure-fire talent on the farm.

Good times. I'm amazed at how well the game plays this deep into the mode. It's still as immersive as ever.

Who we're some prospects who didnt pan out in your Braves franchise? Awesome to see Acuna and Albies fulfill their potential!

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[RogueHominid]

Re: MLB The Show 17 Franchise Discussion Thread

Who we're some prospects who didnt pan out in your Braves franchise? Awesome to see Acuna and Albies fulfill their potential!

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Of the top 10, Wright, Anderson, Gohara, Wentz, and Friend never made appreciable impacts in the bigs, and Maitan took until the beginning of the 2024 season to crack the MLB lineup.

Rio Ruiz flamed out big time.

A surprise for me was Demeritte, who became a lefty killer and made the big league club in year 6, I think. In year 7, he had a torrid run in the playoffs, hitting .400 with 3 HR in limited ABs vs. lefty starters. He had a 2 run HR in the clinching game of the WS that gave me a lead i never relinquished.

Freeman has been the most consistent and dominant hitter I've ever used in The Show. He's a HOFer for sure in this franchise.