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  • ninertravel
    MVP
    • Aug 2015
    • 4833

    #226
    Re: Shohei Otani in The Show

    Originally posted by kehlis
    You can be blunt and clear about your opinion all you want but I don't think it's accurate.

    Has nothing to do with him being a two way player. This isn't the first time they've negotiated rights with international players before the game is released. It's not like this is a FIRST for the game.
    you are talking years ago since this last happened.

    it is of cause to my opinion and that only is, that I simply think the only reason he is going to be in the game early is the fact he is a 2 way player and they needed a way to implement it, we didn't see Tanaka Darvish Ryu, Park, Jang, maeda Abrue

    The hype for tanaka was more then Otani.

    Add to that guys like Erik Thames

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    • kehlis
      Moderator
      • Jul 2008
      • 27738

      #227
      Re: Shohei Otani in The Show

      Originally posted by ninertravel
      you are talking years ago since this last happened.

      it is of cause to my opinion and that only is, that I simply think the only reason he is going to be in the game early is the fact he is a 2 way player and they needed a way to implement it, we didn't see Tanaka Darvish Ryu, Park, Jang, maeda Abrue

      The hype for tanaka was more then Otani.

      Add to that guys like Erik Thames
      You keep saying the same thing but your premise is off. They never would have needed his rights to create the ability to have a two way player which unless I misunderstand you is what you believe is their motivation.

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      • ninertravel
        MVP
        • Aug 2015
        • 4833

        #228
        Re: Shohei Otani in The Show

        Correct I am trying to say it was their motivation behind it.

        I know other players are trying to be 2 way players, but not to the extent that this guy is going to attempt it at.

        My guess is, and only guess, This won't be a editable feature at all, it will be locked to only Otani. The same way as switch pitching was, I would be very surprised if it was a feature added to be edited in for the game for us

        EDIT Fukudome was in the trailer in 08 and wasn't in the game till a roster update

        So just saying this really hasn't been done before. where a player has been in the game day 1 release
        Last edited by ninertravel; 02-21-2018, 10:12 PM.

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        • Mr_Met
          Banned
          • Feb 2018
          • 82

          #229
          Re: Shohei Otani in The Show

          I expect they will just let pitchers be used as DH’s or play a position (OF for Ohtani).

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          • eric7064
            MVP
            • Jan 2010
            • 1151

            #230
            Re: Shohei Otani in The Show

            Originally posted by Mr_Met
            I expect they will just let pitchers be used as DH’s or play a position (OF for Ohtani).
            That is my guess. On the lineup screen it will now let you put pitchers in if need be.

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            • ShowTyme15
              LADetermined
              • Jan 2004
              • 11853

              #231
              Re: Shohei Otani in The Show

              If Ohtani is really in I wouldn't be surprised if the 2-way player distinction is only attached to him(and other players already in the game) and not CAPS.

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              • ninertravel
                MVP
                • Aug 2015
                • 4833

                #232
                Re: Shohei Otani in The Show

                Originally posted by ShowTyme15
                If Ohtani is really in I wouldn't be surprised if the 2-way player distinction is only attached to him(and other players already in the game) and not CAPS.
                I am pretty sure that will be the case, which is why we hope he is on the default roster,

                Otherwise we have to wait 2 weeks for a updated roster with him in it.

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                • Ccurtiss15
                  Rookie
                  • Jun 2017
                  • 20

                  #233
                  Re: Shohei Otani in The Show

                  Originally posted by ninertravel
                  I am pretty sure that will be the case, which is why we hope he is on the default roster,

                  Otherwise we have to wait 2 weeks for a updated roster with him in it.
                  I am fairly sure he will be on the default roster. Why would they buy the individual rights to him if they were going to wait two weeks to put him in the game anyway? I also think that he will have a face scan. If he had a generic face and wasn't on the roster until two weeks into the season then the pros would not outweigh the cons and there would be no reason to buy the individual rights to him when they could just wait for him to make his MLB debut.

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                  • ninertravel
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2015
                    • 4833

                    #234
                    Re: Shohei Otani in The Show

                    Originally posted by Ccurtiss15
                    I am fairly sure he will be on the default roster. Why would they buy the individual rights to him if they were going to wait two weeks to put him in the game anyway? I also think that he will have a face scan. If he had a generic face and wasn't on the roster until two weeks into the season then the pros would not outweigh the cons and there would be no reason to buy the individual rights to him when they could just wait for him to make his MLB debut.
                    Someone pointed out before Fukudome was in the 08 trailers but not on default roster, so this stlll hasn’t ever been done yet in the history of the show, so I’m skepticaland the devs seem
                    To be avoiding conform it on streams ect. Got asked 100 times on the little things stream, not sure which other stream it should be asked in unless it’s classed as a franchise question.

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                    • pjburrage
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 141

                      #235
                      Re: Shohei Otani in The Show

                      Originally posted by ninertravel
                      Someone pointed out before Fukudome was in the 08 trailers but not on default roster, so this stlll hasn’t ever been done yet in the history of the show, so I’m skepticaland the devs seem
                      To be avoiding conform it on streams ect. Got asked 100 times on the little things stream, not sure which other stream it should be asked in unless it’s classed as a franchise question.
                      It'll likely be a franchise question, as that's probably the one mode where the intricacies of the 2-way player would feature most (with RTTS a slight potential possibility).

                      There's also those 6 little stars under Franchise on their Twitch Stream schedule - okay not necessarily accurate given this week but Ohtani fits that nicely, and is one potential 'feature' that will appear in real life MLB in 2018 and has been known about for a while, so maybe they've managed to get that code working correctly as to make the Angels use him as intended.

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                      • Rob_NYY
                        Jedi Master
                        • Dec 2004
                        • 2495

                        #236
                        Re: Shohei Otani in The Show

                        Originally posted by ninertravel
                        Someone pointed out before Fukudome was in the 08 trailers but not on default roster, so this stlll hasn’t ever been done yet in the history of the show, so I’m skepticaland the devs seem
                        To be avoiding conform it on streams ect.
                        Hideki Matsui was in Sony's MLB game on PS2 in 2003. He wasn't in MVP, High Heat, All-Star Baseball or MLB 2K3 that year. Dice-K was in The Show 07 and wasn't in 2K7. It's been done before.

                        They are very careful about what they show in trailers. They knew what they were doing sneaking a clip of Ohtani in there.

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                        • The Left Shark
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2015
                          • 461

                          #237
                          Re: Shohei Otani in The Show

                          If he is in the game, then I have no doubts he will be in as a 2-way player. However, I do not think you will be able to create players as 2-way.

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                          • EnigmaNemesis
                            Animal Liberation
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 12216

                            #238
                            Re: Shohei Otani in The Show

                            Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
                            Not the first time they negotiated with a Japanese player before their MLBPA debut. They did it with Dice-K several years back. Makes a lot of sense marketing wise for Japanese fans/gamers.
                            Originally posted by ninertravel
                            What year was that?? I forgot about that.. but was he in the game after a roster update the first week?
                            Actually, I might be mistaken. Dice-K's debut was in '07, and he was "Tate Baik" in the game debut (PS2 version).

                            Maybe I am misremembering, and they included either him later with an official roster update or maybe it was another player.

                            Edit: He was in the PS3 version, but that one was delayed almost 2.5 months (May 15th vs. Feb. 26th PS2) and he was unionized already. So no outside contract was done.
                            Last edited by EnigmaNemesis; 02-22-2018, 01:30 PM.
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                            • gamer052001
                              Rookie
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 271

                              #239
                              Re: Shohei Otani in The Show

                              Originally posted by The Left Shark
                              If he is in the game, then I have no doubts he will be in as a 2-way player. However, I do not think you will be able to create players as 2-way.
                              I really hope we can for guys like Brendan McKay.

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                              • ShowTyme15
                                LADetermined
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 11853

                                #240
                                Re: Shohei Otani in The Show

                                Originally posted by The Left Shark
                                If he is in the game, then I have no doubts he will be in as a 2-way player. However, I do not think you will be able to create players as 2-way.
                                This is what I was saying earlier. The 2-way distinction (if it's even in 18) will only be attached to him and a few others already in the game (Beathancourt and Eibner), but not CAPs. That is my fear. hopefully I'm wrong though and they surprise us down the road. Probably have to wait for the RTTS stream.
                                Last edited by ShowTyme15; 02-22-2018, 12:15 PM.

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