Shohei Otani in The Show

[breakfastcat]

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So how does he spell his first name, Show-ey?

Not sure is you're serious, but its Shohei

[GoDucks1224]

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Not sure is you're serious, but its Shohei

He’s not lol.

[ninertravel]

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This game is out in 2 weeks and we still don't have a answer as to if 2 way players is in the game or 100% confirmed if Othani is in the game

[countryboy]

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This game is out in 2 weeks and we still don't have a answer as to if 2 way players is in the game or 100% confirmed if Othani is in the game

I’m sure we’ll find out next week during franchise info


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[ninertravel]

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I’m sure we’ll find out next week during franchise info


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Well they said nothing about 2 way players in RTTS so I am guessing you can't do that in RTTS which means if this feature is in the game for Othani then it would only be locked to him.

I know a lot of people are convinced he is in the game because of some screenshot in retro mode, but they can easily take him out of the default roster and have to wait for him to play a game first to be unlocked it would not surprise me at all

[countryboy]

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Well they said nothing about 2 way players in RTTS so I am guessing you can't do that in RTTS which means if this feature is in the game for Othani then it would only be locked to him.

I know a lot of people are convinced he is in the game because of some screenshot in retro mode, but they can easily take him out of the default roster and have to wait for him to play a game first to be unlocked it would not surprise me at all

I personally would be very surprised if they allowed CAPS of two way players. I think if it is indeed in the game, then it will only be applied to Ohtani.

[GoDucks1224]

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This game is out in 2 weeks and we still don't have a answer as to if 2 way players is in the game or 100% confirmed if Othani is in the game

I mean. His stance is in the game, with his name. They showed a screenshot of him pitching in retro mode. What else do you need for confirmation? He’s in the game lol.

[legacyme3]

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I mean. His stance is in the game, with his name. They showed a screenshot of him pitching in retro mode. What else do you need for confirmation? He’s in the game lol.

I think the question is more "is he going to be in the game on launch" or "is he going to be removed prior to launch, and then added back in once he's officially appeared in a game" more than anything.

I don't think anybody is debating whether or not Ohtani has been seen in the previews to this point, that's an objective fact.

People are mostly asking because this DOES impact OSFM quite a bit. If Ohtani isn't removed from the base game at launch, then OSFM gets sped up a bit, potentially. If Ohtani "is" removed from the base game, then OSFM gets launched a week or two later (until Ohtani is added in).

It's not a question of "is Ohtani in the game" so much as it is "Is Ohtani staying in the game for use at launch."

Just because something is shown in a trailer, or a preview, doesn't mean it will remain in the game, 100% at launch. Wouldn't be the first team a feature was shown by a game company and then have it absent at first.

[ninertravel]

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I mean. His stance is in the game, with his name. They showed a screenshot of him pitching in retro mode. What else do you need for confirmation? He’s in the game lol.

You are completely missing my point, that doesn’t mean he will be in the game at launch, also lots of players have a stance in the game from previous years that technically can’t be in the game yet, I bet Tim lineacom pitching motion is too but he won’t be in the game till a update.

I still think
Otahni is not be in the game till he’s allowed to be, and because of the unique situation of him being a 2 way player they had to get him in the game early I mean what if he got injured tomorrow and had tommy John? He couldn’t be in the game till he has 1 ab or pitched a innings

[orioles0615]

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I think the question is more "is he going to be in the game on launch" or "is he going to be removed prior to launch, and then added back in once he's officially appeared in a game" more than anything.

I don't think anybody is debating whether or not Ohtani has been seen in the previews to this point, that's an objective fact.

People are mostly asking because this DOES impact OSFM quite a bit. If Ohtani isn't removed from the base game at launch, then OSFM gets sped up a bit, potentially. If Ohtani "is" removed from the base game, then OSFM gets launched a week or two later (until Ohtani is added in).

It's not a question of "is Ohtani in the game" so much as it is "Is Ohtani staying in the game for use at launch."

Just because something is shown in a trailer, or a preview, doesn't mean it will remain in the game, 100% at launch. Wouldn't be the first team a feature was shown by a game company and then have it absent at first.

My real question is how will he be able to played. Just having boosted hitting stats as a pitcher is a poor utilization. This means you still wouldnt be able to use him properly in games or franchise mode. You can't start a game with a pitcher at DH, you have to pinch hit, and if you sim forward the CPU will take him out because it just sees him as a pitcher. You also wont be able to set any lineups and sim with him in franchise mode because you can have pitchers play a position in the lineups. He will most likely be in the game just with improved hitting stats and it will be a cop out

[ninertravel]

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My real question is how will he be able to played. Just having boosted hitting stats as a pitcher is a poor utilization. This means you still wouldnt be able to use him properly in games or franchise mode. You can't start a game with a pitcher at DH, you have to pinch hit, and if you sim forward the CPU will take him out because it just sees him as a pitcher. You also wont be able to set any lineups and sim with him in franchise mode because you can have pitchers play a position in the lineups. He will most likely be in the game just with improved hitting stats and it will be a cop out

I guess if his secondary position was say 1st base then this won’t be a issue If however there is no secondary position then this would happen

[Caulfield]

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I think 2way players will be easier to implement than a lot of people think. Theres just been no real reason for SDS to do it until now. I'm still to this day surprised they ever spent time working on left-handed shortstops second & third basemen. But I'm glad they did. Now I long for the day I can accurately play Mike Squires at catcher

He couldn’t be in the game till he has 1 ab or pitched a innings

This is just not true. You can look back at each years Show and find a hanful of players who had zero MLB experience but were on the default roster. I realise most of those guys had spent time on the big league 40 man the previous September but still. Also there is the fact that SDS puts in their real employees in the game. So there is no MLB rule that says you have to appear in the majors to be in a video game. You just need to have done the necessary paperwork with SDS clearing the way.

[Bullit]

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I think 2way players will be easier to implement than a lot of people think. Theres just been no real reason for SDS to do it until now. I'm still to this day surprised they ever spent time working on left-handed shortstops second & third basemen. But I'm glad they did. Now I long for the day I can accurately play Mike Squires at catcher


This is just not true. You can look back at each years Show and find a hanful of players who had zero MLB experience but were on the default roster. I realise most of those guys had spent time on the big league 40 man the previous September but still. Also there is the fact that SDS puts in their real employees in the game. So there is no MLB rule that says you have to appear in the majors to be in a video game. You just need to have done the necessary paperwork with SDS clearing the way.

Actually this is not really true. To be in a video game a player must be part of the MLBPA. To be in the MLBPA they must be on a teams 40 man roster. It does not matter if they have played in the Majors, they just have to be on a 40 man roster. I am not reading thru the entire agreement conerning video game right to stadiums, logos, uni's etc. for a thread on OS. You guys cant afford my hourly rates.

From the MPBPA:

Q: Who is eligible for membership in the Association?

A: All players, managers, coaches and trainers who hold a signed contract with a Major League club are eligible for membership in the Association. In collective bargaining, the Association represents around 1,200 players, or the number of players on each club's 40-man roster, in addition to any players on the disabled list.

Q: What is group licensing?

A: Any company seeking to use the names or likenesses of more than two Major League Baseball players in connection with a commercial product, product line or promotion must sign a licensing agreement with the MLBPA. The license grants the use of the players' names and/or likenesses only and not the use of any MLB team logos or marks. Examples of products licensed by the MLBPA include trading cards, video games, T-shirts, caps, a wide variety of other products such as pennants, posters, pins, action figures and advertising campaigns for a wide variety of products and services.

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Jut kidding I am not actually a lawyer, I just slept at a Holiday Inn last night. But I have passed the bar on a bet.

[Caulfield]

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Actually this is not really true. To be in a video game a player must be part of the MLBPA.

Then I suppose Ramone and the other dev's in the game must've joined the MLBPA

[Bullit]

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Then I suppose Ramone and the other dev's in the game must've joined the MLBPA

They have the rights to the MLB licence. They could fill the entire game with fictional players. They don't fall under the guidelines. There is a different agreement with the MILB. This agreement however does not include anything beyond the team names and "uniforms"/logos. No likenesses. That gives them the ability to use any likeness or person to fill out the rosters. If this was not the case you would not be able to play more than one year in any given sport game as no fictional players would be allowed to be put in the game beyond those in the players associations.

Believe me when I say that the guys behind this game are not doing anything "shady" when it comes to likenesses and licensing with this game. There is simply no room for that in the agreement I am sure. They face very hefty penalties and fines or loss of licence for any violation. They payed and continue to pay heavily for the rights and agreements that allow them to make this game and I almost certain some form of profits on a yearly basis. Sony San Diego has to jump thru a lot, A LOT, of hoops to put out this game for us. People may not realize just how much money and time is involved in this part of the game and is probably one of the reasons we do not see any competition in the market right now.