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  • ShowTyme15
    LADetermined
    • Jan 2004
    • 11853

    #616
    Re: Shohei Otani in The Show

    Originally posted by WSUCougars
    I would be surprised if The Show doesn't program in two-way players this year. Ohtani accuracy is too important to the integrity of the game.

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    Not just with Ohtani, but Matt Davidson as well and once Texas calls up Brett Eibner he too will be a 2 way player.

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    • Cavicchi
      MVP
      • Mar 2004
      • 2841

      #617
      Re: Shohei Otani in The Show

      Originally posted by ShowTyme15
      Kopech will be in 19, but will miss the entire 2019 season due to TJ Surgery. Kopech is not a 2 way player like Ohtani. Ohtani won't pitch in 2019 due to his TJ Surgery, but will basically be the Angels full time DH sometime after opening day.

      Both players will be in MLB 19 The Show.
      I know both Kopech and Ohtani will not pitch in 2019, but will Kopech and Ohtani as a pitcher be in The Show 19 opening day roster?

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      • ShowTyme15
        LADetermined
        • Jan 2004
        • 11853

        #618
        Re: Shohei Otani in The Show

        Originally posted by Cavicchi
        I know both Kopech and Ohtani will not pitch in 2019, but will Kopech and Ohtani as a pitcher be in The Show 19 opening day roster?
        We don't know if Ohtani will be listed as a pitcher or not until more info comes out, but he will be in the Opending Day roster. Kopech will be on the roster, but most likely stashed in the minors with the SCEA Opening Day roster update.

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        • Cavicchi
          MVP
          • Mar 2004
          • 2841

          #619
          Re: Shohei Otani in The Show

          Originally posted by ShowTyme15
          We don't know if Ohtani will be listed as a pitcher or not until more info comes out, but he will be in the Opending Day roster. Kopech will be on the roster, but most likely stashed in the minors with the SCEA Opening Day roster update.
          Since pitchers who are not going to pitch are in the roster, then not having Ohtani makes no sense to me.

          Most likely they will not have Ohtani as a pitcher in the game, because they did not have him as a pitcher in the last update for 18.

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          • ninertravel
            MVP
            • Aug 2015
            • 4833

            #620
            Re: Shohei Otani in The Show

            Originally posted by ShowTyme15
            Kopech will be in 19, but will miss the entire 2019 season due to TJ Surgery. Kopech is not a 2 way player like Ohtani. Ohtani won't pitch in 2019 due to his TJ Surgery, but will basically be the Angels full time DH sometime after opening day.

            Both players will be in MLB 19 The Show.
            but Kopech won't be in 2020 the show because he will miss all of this year.. its really annoying but is what it is I guess.

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            • kehlis
              Moderator
              • Jul 2008
              • 27738

              #621
              Re: Shohei Otani in The Show

              Originally posted by Cavicchi
              Since pitchers who are not going to pitch are in the roster, then not having Ohtani makes no sense to me.
              For whatever reason, they can't (or won't) make him a two way player in the game.

              That means they have to decide if he should be created as a batter or a pitcher.

              He's going to play this year, as a batter. He isn't going to play this year as a pitcher.


              What doesn't make sense?

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              • ninertravel
                MVP
                • Aug 2015
                • 4833

                #622
                Re: Shohei Otani in The Show

                My educated guess about the 2 way reason problem. is the stats are hard to handle. by default a batter stats show batting stats, and a pitcher shows pitching stats. you can't really sort stats from a batter to a pitcher. it's how the awards are chosen and the all star voting.

                This is why making him a DH in game is a BAD BAD idea because now you can't use him as a pitcher at all now. at least you could do the pinch hit trick using a 26 man roster before and check stats that are buried. but you know how franchise really isn't priority now and it's all DD so it is a 'who cares he is in the game for DD cards purposes'

                so what will happened with people that still have Ohtani from 18 in a franchise as a pitcher when they move their franchise over to 19? will he just become a fake player then?? because technically he won't exist now if they make him a position player

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                • ShowTyme15
                  LADetermined
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 11853

                  #623
                  Re: Shohei Otani in The Show

                  Originally posted by ninertravel
                  but Kopech won't be in 2020 the show because he will miss all of this year.. its really annoying but is what it is I guess.
                  If he spends the entire season on the Major League DL then he will be in 2020.

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                  • ninertravel
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2015
                    • 4833

                    #624
                    Re: Shohei Otani in The Show

                    Originally posted by ShowTyme15
                    If he spends the entire season on the Major League DL then he will be in 2020.
                    your right sorry I should have been more clear on that if he comes back in a few minor rehab games in late September or something that it could be a problem. but it looks like that is highly unlikely.

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                    • ShowTyme15
                      LADetermined
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 11853

                      #625
                      Re: Shohei Otani in The Show

                      Originally posted by ninertravel
                      your right sorry I should have been more clear on that if he comes back in a few minor rehab games in late September or something that it could be a problem. but it looks like that is highly unlikely.
                      Rehab starts don't count I believe. During a rehab stints players are technically still on the DL.

                      It's when a player comes off the DL and goes to the minors and never gets called back up is when he loses his MLBPA Status.

                      Obviously, in Kopech's case he likely won't pitch at all in 2019 and will likely stay on the Sox Major League DL the entire season.

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                      • Cavicchi
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 2841

                        #626
                        Re: Shohei Otani in The Show

                        Originally posted by kehlis
                        For whatever reason, they can't (or won't) make him a two way player in the game.

                        That means they have to decide if he should be created as a batter or a pitcher.

                        He's going to play this year, as a batter. He isn't going to play this year as a pitcher.


                        What doesn't make sense?
                        Since you asked, pitchers that are not going to pitch due to injury are still on the roster. Therefore, Ohtani should be in the roster--for the benefit of franchise mode. Because, if he isn't in the roster as a pitcher, the franchise is compromised when he would be starting. And, the most intriguing player is in the 19 roster in half and not whole. He is rookie of the year and I don't believe it's due to just his hitting.

                        Now that's my take, your take will no doubt differ. So be it.

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                        • kehlis
                          Moderator
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 27738

                          #627
                          Re: Shohei Otani in The Show

                          Originally posted by Cavicchi
                          Since you asked, pitchers that are not going to pitch due to injury are still on the roster. Therefore, Ohtani should be in the roster--for the benefit of franchise mode. Because, if he isn't in the roster as a pitcher, the franchise is compromised when he would be starting. And, the most intriguing player is in the 19 roster in half and not whole. He is rookie of the year and I don't believe it's due to just his hitting.



                          Now that's my take, your take will no doubt differ. So be it.

                          My take isn’t different. I agree.

                          But that’s not the reality we are dealing with.

                          SCEA has to pick one or the other.

                          We know he’s going to hit this year, we’re pretty sure he won’t pitch.

                          If you were SCEA, which would you pick?



                          (The discussion isn’t about whether or not it’s preferred)

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                          • Cavicchi
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 2841

                            #628
                            Re: Shohei Otani in The Show

                            Originally posted by kehlis
                            My take isn’t different. I agree.

                            But that’s not the reality we are dealing with.

                            SCEA has to pick one or the other.

                            We know he’s going to hit this year, we’re pretty sure he won’t pitch.

                            If you were SCEA, which would you pick?



                            (The discussion isn’t about whether or not it’s preferred)
                            I don't think there has to be a choice. Kopech is not going to pitch and is in the roster as a pitcher. Now, what is to prevent someone from moving Kopech from minors to majors? Nothing that I know of, unless there is some code preventing it from happening. Is there such a code? No. Thus, I don't see why they can't have Ohtani in the majors as both pitcher and hitter, even though we all know he won't pitch this year, or probably won't pitch.

                            Leaving Kopech in and not the reigning ROTY is not a choice that makes sense to me. Now, I know the idea of him batting is half the man and is reality, but Kopech and others who are not going to play this year while still in the game is also reality--and they can be moved up to the majors. Thus, you can have those who are not going to play in the majors anyway!

                            I won't get into all the fake players who may also get into the majors. At least Ohtani is real.

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                            • CWSpalehoseCWS
                              MVP
                              • Jun 2005
                              • 1028

                              #629
                              Re: Shohei Otani in The Show

                              Originally posted by ShowTyme15
                              If he spends the entire season on the Major League DL then he will be in 2020.


                              This is most likely the case.


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                              • gamer052001
                                Rookie
                                • Mar 2012
                                • 271

                                #630
                                Re: Shohei Otani in The Show

                                I'll be using Ohtani as a pitcher from a CAP on next year's game. At least as a pitcher, you can use him to hit a little. I'm also fully expecting them to not address 2-way players and have him as an OF/DH.
                                Last edited by gamer052001; 01-15-2019, 05:11 PM.

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