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  • BlacknBlue
    Rookie
    • Dec 2015
    • 317

    #436
    Re: MLB The Show 18 Twitch Stream Starting Now - Franchise Mode

    Originally posted by countryboy
    It was a spur of moment thing.

    But if you want to use it as ammunition more power to you.


    Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports
    Removing the function to expand the standings menu was a spur of the moment thing?

    I know that’s not what you meant, but if you’re going to be an apologist and defend everything that gets called out that is lacking with the game you’d better be all encompassing and not pick and choose what suits your position best.

    It’s okay to admit when things aren’t good, man. You can still like the game and recognize its short comings. That’s how things get fixed. But it must be exhausting having to do all of their PR work in here every day and damage control for the other longtime purchasers of this product who are not looking at everything with rose colored glasses on.

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    • ShowTyme15
      LADetermined
      • Jan 2004
      • 11853

      #437
      Re: MLB The Show 18 Twitch Stream Starting Now - Franchise Mode

      Originally posted by Gosens6
      Well they do in the sense that they're still not allowed to use real MLBPA contracts. I'm fully aware of that and always have been.

      The question I was asking is why The Show can't give us a realistic budget and financial system to make them as close to real life as possible. If no one knows why they can't, that's fine. I understand there are limitations and roadblocks when it comes to console games.
      Well I do know for a fact ( I have direct knowledge on the subject) know that The show can't use real life contracts due to MLBPA restrictions. As for your question I have no idea I would assume it has to do with limitations at this point. Could be a resource issue as well. Enigma or any CD guy would probably be able to better answer that question.

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      • Gosens6
        All Star
        • Oct 2007
        • 6100

        #438
        Re: MLB The Show 18 Twitch Stream Starting Now - Franchise Mode

        Originally posted by KBLover
        Yeah there's some differences...something about not having a player's likeness and such.

        I remember reading about it years ago...memory's fuzzy now.
        They used to not be able to use player likenesses and real MLB player names outside of mods years ago, but a few years back they signed on with the MLB and the MLBPA. So they're allowed to present there game just like The Show does, sans real life contracts of course.

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        • BigOscar
          MVP
          • May 2016
          • 2971

          #439
          Re: MLB The Show 18 Twitch Stream Starting Now - Franchise Mode

          Originally posted by Armor and Sword
          This all roots back to the financial system not being able to handle real life contracts. They would have to rewrite the budget code.

          I am all for real life contracts. But you will run into major budget bugs using real life contracts. That is why the best OSFM rosters use the SCEA stock contracts. You can't play long term with real life money contracts. It causes all sorts of bugs in regards to teams budgets and players not being signed.
          Yeah I've being thinking of trying to find some kind of formula to get real life contracts into franchise without breaking it. I want the good and bad contracts to be as good and bad in the Show, but as you say it's tough as the Show's system is a bit off. $25m in the Show is worth more than $25m in real life (hence why on that stream Harper is signing a 7 year, 183m deal and Goldy is getting 7 years at 136.6m, both very low)

          I'm going to try and find a percentage that I can set real contracts to make the system still work, at the moment I'm thinking something like 75% (so someone getting $20m irl would be getting $15m in the Show). It'll take some messing around with but hopefully there is a decent way of scaling it.

          As you say though, it's pretty annoying that the system doesn't line up with real life values and cannot handle it if you change it

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          • Gosens6
            All Star
            • Oct 2007
            • 6100

            #440
            Re: MLB The Show 18 Twitch Stream Starting Now - Franchise Mode

            Originally posted by ShowTyme15
            Well I do know for a fact ( I have direct knowledge on the subject) know that The show can't use real life contracts due to MLBPA restrictions. As for your question I have no idea I would assume it has to do with limitations at this point. Could be a resource issue as well. Enigma or any CD guy would probably be able to better answer that question.
            I know they can't, that's not something I was disputing with you at all lol. We're agreeing on that subject

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            • countryboy
              Growing pains
              • Sep 2003
              • 52767

              #441
              Re: MLB The Show 18 Twitch Stream Starting Now - Franchise Mode

              Originally posted by BlacknBlue
              Removing the function to expand the standings menu was a spur of the moment thing?

              I know that’s not what you meant, but if you’re going to be an apologist and defend everything that gets called out that is lacking with the game you’d better be all encompassing and not pick and choose what suits your position best.

              It’s okay to admit when things aren’t good, man. You can still like the game and recognize its short comings. That’s how things get fixed. But it must be exhausting having to do all of their PR work in here every day and damage control for the other longtime purchasers of this product who are not looking at everything with rose colored glasses on.


              I responded to your initial post because I thought you weren’t aware of what was happening so I shared what happened.

              As for the rest of this post, I’ve already taken more bait than I should have.


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              • ShowTyme15
                LADetermined
                • Jan 2004
                • 11853

                #442
                Re: MLB The Show 18 Twitch Stream Starting Now - Franchise Mode

                Originally posted by Gosens6
                I know they can't, that's not something I was disputing with you at all lol. We're agreeing on that subject
                Wasn't really directed at you per say. It was more in general. I just quoted your post when I should have made my point separate.

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                • BlacknBlue
                  Rookie
                  • Dec 2015
                  • 317

                  #443
                  Re: MLB The Show 18 Twitch Stream Starting Now - Franchise Mode

                  Originally posted by countryboy
                  I responded to your initial post because I thought you weren’t aware of what was happening so I shared what happened.

                  As for the rest of this post, I’ve already taken more bait than I should have.


                  Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports
                  Fair enough. Just as long as you recognize that I took your bait and responded to your tongue-in-cheek and condescending remark, we can call it a wash.

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                  • MoneyMan17
                    Rookie
                    • Jan 2017
                    • 336

                    #444
                    Re: MLB The Show 18 Twitch Stream Starting Now - Franchise Mode

                    Community:
                    -Fix trade logic
                    -Fix prospects and scouting
                    -Fix offseason FA logic
                    -Fix rotating schedules
                    -Fix progression/regression
                    -Fix contract logic (Aaron Judge will not make 2.7M prearbitration)

                    SDS:
                    -PHASES!
                    Last edited by MoneyMan17; 03-16-2018, 01:43 PM.

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                    • countryboy
                      Growing pains
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 52767

                      #445
                      Re: MLB The Show 18 Twitch Stream Starting Now - Franchise Mode

                      For those that were discussing Stanton being on the trade block earlier and discussing possibilities as to why; the Yankees were 57-39 at the break and Stanton's contract was 10 years (he was in year 1 of 10) with a salary for this first year of $18M.
                      I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                      I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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                      • extremeskins04
                        That's top class!
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 3868

                        #446
                        Re: MLB The Show 18 Twitch Stream Starting Now - Franchise Mode

                        Originally posted by countryboy
                        For those that were discussing Stanton being on the trade block earlier and discussing possibilities as to why; the Yankees were 57-39 at the break and Stanton's contract was 10 years (he was in year 1 of 10) with a salary for this first year of $18M.
                        I mean it seems pretty normal. Stanton is one of the best power hitters in the game right now and I'm still pissed that the Red Sox didn't go after him hard enough. We would have taken him in a second and while I think 10 years is a bit much lol, I wouldn't have a problem with it because of the fact that he's Stanton.

                        It appears there's alot of Stanton hate in this community (not saying you, but a few others), and I'm not sure why.

                        My 3 favorite players are:
                        -Arenado
                        -Stanton
                        -Goldschmidt

                        I'd take any one of those guys, pay them a ton of money and have them play in Boston. But yea.

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                        • Pompeo89
                          Rookie
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 78

                          #447
                          Re: MLB The Show 18 Twitch Stream Starting Now - Franchise Mode

                          Originally posted by craigscar
                          Are you sure of this? At the 15:47 mark of the stream they show the Adam Morgan clip. He's got a 2-2 record with a "season" of stats of 10 IP 6 hits, 0 runs). How does he have 2 losses if he's allowed 0 runs on the year?


                          Hmmm I thought I caught them say they were showing season stats there because I was confused too


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                          • KBLover
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 12172

                            #448
                            Re: MLB The Show 18 Twitch Stream Starting Now - Franchise Mode

                            Originally posted by extremeskins04
                            My 3 favorite players are:
                            -Arenado
                            -Stanton
                            -Goldschmidt

                            I'd take any one of those guys, pay them a ton of money and have them play in Boston. But yea.
                            Same here...though I'd lean towards Goldschmidt...he just seems to be one of those "hard line drive hitters that can hit one out as well". Perfect for exploiting all of Fenway.
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                            • Armor and Sword
                              The Lama
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 21793

                              #449
                              Re: MLB The Show 18 Twitch Stream Starting Now - Franchise Mode

                              Originally posted by extremeskins04
                              I mean it seems pretty normal. Stanton is one of the best power hitters in the game right now and I'm still pissed that the Red Sox didn't go after him hard enough. We would have taken him in a second and while I think 10 years is a bit much lol, I wouldn't have a problem with it because of the fact that he's Stanton.

                              It appears there's alot of Stanton hate in this community (not saying you, but a few others), and I'm not sure why.

                              My 3 favorite players are:
                              -Arenado
                              -Stanton
                              -Goldschmidt

                              I'd take any one of those guys, pay them a ton of money and have them play in Boston. But yea.
                              I loved watching Stanton play down here in South Florida. Don't think he is worth that contract. Not a believer he will ever stay healthy enough to play at that level for much longer. And he strikes out way too much.

                              But My Yankees have him....I am hoping for the best. But if they can move him and get a Harper.....please do.

                              My three favorite players?

                              Arenado
                              Trout
                              Altuve
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                              • ShowTyme15
                                LADetermined
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 11853

                                #450
                                Re: MLB The Show 18 Twitch Stream Starting Now - Franchise Mode

                                Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                                I loved watching Stanton play down here in South Florida. Don't think he is worth that contract. Not a believer he will ever stay healthy enough to play at that level for much longer. And he strikes out way too much.

                                But My Yankees have him....I am hoping for the best. But if they can move him and get a Harper.....please do.

                                My three favorite players?

                                Arenado
                                Trout
                                Altuve
                                The Yankees are going to strike out a ton as whole this year, but that is another discussion for another time.

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