MLB The Show 18 Twitch Stream Starting Now - Franchise Mode

[extremeskins04]

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Who’s to say Stanton goes and hits say 40 HRs this year.

A great year. But the Yankees want Harper. They trade Stanton for maybe not a great package. But get that contract off the books and grab Harper.

That could easily happen. The baseball trade market is probably next to the NHL the most difficult to navigate and program for.

AS, I followed you on here for a long time. I'm an avid fan of your slider sets over the course of MANY different sports games and I think you're a pretty down to earth and cool guy from knowing you on your Twitch streams....

But dude you've lost it...

There is no way the Yankees would give up on Stanton to get Harper unless Stanton had a bad injury or he just flat out "lost it".

Not in a million years bro.

[ShowTyme15]

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Regarding trade logic, the game has certainly gotten better over the years (I remember back in 09 or 10 where in one of my franchises, the Yankees were apparently on a mission to collect every SS in the league...including keeping a still high-performing Jeter), but I can certainly understand the concerns.

Trade logic will never be perfect (I use 30 team control for that reason) and what is "realistic" can certainly be muddied by plenty of real-world head-scratchers, but I think the issue most people have is more in the details of how and how much it happens over the simple fact that it happens at all.

It would be nice to one day have some more options to adjust frequency and logic for franchises, similar to NBA 2K, though obsessive people like me will probably still resort to controlling all teams (as I still do in 2K, despite such options existing).

Anyway, 30 team control is still a perfectly viable workaround if trade logic bothers anyone that much, though I do wish they'd reintroduce delayed trades to The Show, so I can be a proper commissioner and simply reject what I don't like.

Trade delay option needs to come back or something similar to 2K with trade approval options turned on before you enter a franchise.

[Armor and Sword]

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AS, I followed you on here for a long time. I'm an avid fan of your slider sets and I think you're a pretty down to earth and cool guy from knowing you on your Twitch streams....



But dude you've lost it...



There is no way the Yankees would give up on Stanton to get Harper unless Stanton had a bad injury or he just flat out "lost it".



Not in a million years bro.

No I have not lost it.

Stanton had a career year and IMO will not match what he did lst season.

Bryce Harper has many more years left in his career and hitting in Yankee Stadium in that batting order.

Bring him to the Big Apple.

Stanton was being held together by scotch tape.

I actually know a few Marlins trainers.

I am not as optimistic about Stantons longevity in the league brohan.

Just my opinion.

I take Harper over Stanton as a complete baseball player and lefty power hitter in that park and that lineup every day every year.


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[BigOscar]

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No I have not lost it.

Stanton had a career year and IMO will not match what he did lst season.

Bryce Harper has many more years left in his career and hitting in Yankee Stadium in that batting order.

Bring him to the Big Apple.

Stanton was being held together by scotch tape.

I actually know a few Marlins trainers.

I am not as optimistic about Stantons longevity in the league brohan.

Just my opinion.

I take Harper over Stanton as a complete baseball player and lefty power hitter in that park and that lineup every day every year.


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I really don't think they'd have traded for such a ridiculously long and hefty contract as Stantons if they had any intention of dumping him after a year to go after Harper. It's not a logical thing to do.

Then again these are humans were talking about and humans always have the potential to do weird things, so anything possible.

[Unlucky 13]

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No I have not lost it.

Stanton had a career year and IMO will not match what he did lst season.

Bryce Harper has many more years left in his career and hitting in Yankee Stadium in that batting order.

Bring him to the Big Apple.

Stanton was being held together by scotch tape.

I actually know a few Marlins trainers.

I am not as optimistic about Stantons longevity in the league brohan.

Just my opinion.

I take Harper over Stanton as a complete baseball player and lefty power hitter in that park and that lineup every day every year.


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But then Harper wouldn't be on the Cubs, where he belongs and is destined to be next season!

[Gosens6]

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I really don't think they'd have traded for such a ridiculously long and hefty contract as Stantons if they had any intention of dumping him after a year to go after Harper. It's not a logical thing to do.

Then again these are humans were talking about and humans always have the potential to do weird things, so anything possible.

Yeah, no way on Gods green earth will the Yanks be putting Stanton on the trade block his first year with the team.

They are in win right now mode and would not have made that trade if they weren't going for multiple WS rings.

More so, if Stanton did break down, did stop performing at the high level he is, no team would take that contract. I think the Yankees are stuck with him for the life of that contract.

But for him to be on the trade block his first year with the team in the Show really makes no sense.

A lot of the trades and trade block players made no sense in the stream. AI logic will never be perfect, but you have to be better than that.

[ty5oke]

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Really don't see anything to add immersion to my franchise. I really don't get why they don't do a MLB tonight type recap show of highlights for the day's game. These type of things were in NFL 2k5 and CHOOPS 2k8, were things I loved about those games. Every day there should be something great going on in my franchise from some player but I basically have to go through box scores on my own to find it which I never do due to time.

At least, since I have to play 30 team control for realism I will be able to scroll through the teams to see player of the games for the day.

[Armor and Sword]

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Yeah, no way on Gods green earth will the Yanks be putting Stanton on the trade block his first year with the team.

They are in win right now mode and would not have made that trade if they weren't going for multiple WS rings.

More so, if Stanton did break down, did stop performing at the high level he is, no team would take that contract. I think the Yankees are stuck with him for the life of that contract.

But for him to be on the trade block his first year with the team in the Show really makes no sense.

A lot of the trades and trade block players made no sense in the stream. AI logic will never be perfect, but you have to be better than that.

Oh I agree....no way this year. But in the future? For sure IMO. That contract sucks.

[Armor and Sword]

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I really don't think they'd have traded for such a ridiculously long and hefty contract as Stantons if they had any intention of dumping him after a year to go after Harper. It's not a logical thing to do.

Then again these are humans were talking about and humans always have the potential to do weird things, so anything possible.

Exactly....that is the point. I have seen so many crazy things in baseball trades nothing...nothing will ever surprise me.

And the Yankees can absolutely look to move Stanton after one year to get Harper. 40-50% chance they do IMO.

[Gosens6]

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Oh I agree....no way this year. But in the future? For sure IMO. That contract sucks.

Man it's AWFUL lol. Reminds me of that terrible contract the Angels gave Pujols (Although he earned it)

Yankees are stuck with Stanton until 2028 IMO. Let's hope they at least win a couple rings in that time period.

[EnigmaNemesis]

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Trade delay option needs to come back or something similar to 2K with trade approval options turned on before you enter a franchise.

Definitely agree with this.

Oh I agree....no way this year. But in the future? For sure IMO. That contract sucks.

That is why Jeter jumped on it so quickly with the 'hometown discount' in return.

[Buccosback]

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What I find interesting is that last week some long term RTTS fans were not happy because of changes they made to the progression (mainly caps) and many franchise players basically said the changes might get them to try RTTS this year. So overall they thought that was a good thing.

This week Franchise players are not happy with the changes (or lack there of) made in Franchise. Yet in the two main threads about it I have seen several RTTS and DD players say that they may give it a try because Phases makes things more understandable. But somehow franchise fans don't see that as a good thing.

Phases are a good thing to me cause it puts everything on one screen rather than having to remember to do things. I think they just cleaned up a lot of stuff that was irritating to players (retiring early, depth chart stuff) it makes this mode run a lot smoother and it is a major platform for adding international signings/setting ticket prices/concessions/team store. I think next year there will be a ton of improvements and hopefully they fix RTTS so you can have a cap if u want but everyone can be 99 everything too. remember its a video game.

[bspring3]

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This Stanton discussion brings up a key point tho that no one is discussing:

What if in that stream (I didn’t see the standings or details so this is conjecture), the Yankees are 20-50 and losing money in the budget system so they need to offload contracts?

Also, what if the contract in game is not the albatross it is IRL?

Looking at it that way, a player like that would certainly be traded in real life. Remember that the game can’t know the details from before your franchise started, so whether Stanton was just traded for doesn’t matter. It sees a very good highly paid player on an underperforming team and tries to trade him. That is GREAT logic and something any GM does.



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[Gosens6]

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This Stanton discussion brings up a key point tho that no one is discussing:

What if in that stream (I didn’t see the standings or details so this is conjecture), the Yankees are 20-50 and losing money in the budget system so they need to offload contracts?

Also, what if the contract in game is not the albatross it is IRL?

Looking at it that way, a player like that would certainly be traded in real life. Remember that the game can’t know the details from before your franchise started, so whether Stanton was just traded for doesn’t matter. It sees a very good highly paid player on an underperforming team and tries to trade him. That is GREAT logic and something any GM does.



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You bring up an excellent point when it comes to the contract. If he has a team friendly contract in The Show, and the Yanks are in a bad spot, I could absolutely see him being shopped for prospects.

Although, this brings us back to the point that contracts should at least be as close as possible to their real life counterparts to bring the AI logic to an even higher level.

[Armor and Sword]

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You bring up an excellent point when it comes to the contract. If he has a team friendly contract in The Show, and the Yanks are in a bad spot, I could absolutely see him being shopped for prospects.

Although, this brings us back to the point that contracts should at least be as close as possible to their real life counterparts to bring the AI logic to an even higher level.

This all roots back to the financial system not being able to handle real life contracts. They would have to rewrite the budget code.

I am all for real life contracts. But you will run into major budget bugs using real life contracts. That is why the best OSFM rosters use the SCEA stock contracts. You can't play long term with real life money contracts. It causes all sorts of bugs in regards to teams budgets and players not being signed.