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  • HighCmpPct
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    • Oct 2011
    • 3596

    #1336
    Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

    Personally to me Escobar can be had for almost anything.

    Now Peraza to DET for Iglesias is intriguing tho, I wanna say do it straight up, but I also want to say add James McCann to the deal and possibly send them back a lotto pick player. Idk tho did no math on this, just a baseball knowledge idea.

    For Duvall, I would need to know more about the playoff picture and any injuries or underperforming players.

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    • HighCmpPct
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      • Oct 2011
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      #1337
      Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

      Off my head tho, SF seems like a possible good fit for Duvall if they're still in it. They could use the power.

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      • MrSerendipity
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        • Jun 2013
        • 1397

        #1338
        Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

        Originally posted by HighCmpPct
        While I have your ear tho, any possible spots/deals for Wilson Ramos? He's the last guy I have to lock up a deal for and I'll have all the trades teams are gonna do in my chise locked in.
        I hate to keep beating this drum but Minnesota. I have a few different franchises and I always end up moving one of Realmuto, Lucroy or Chirinos up there. Ramos would be a solid and relatively inexpensive move for them.

        Originally posted by agentlaw13
        Looking to move Peraza and Duvall in my Reds franchise. We are 1 game out of first at the end of May.

        Would like an older more defensive minded SS and a catcher to split time with Barnhart.

        Early targets for SS include A. Escobar (KC 12 games out) or J. Iglesias (Det 14 games out).

        Any ideas or packages that might work?
        I like this out of the box thinking here man. Always nice to see a fresh name (Escobar) in the thread. Quite honestly, Escobar is pretty much without surplus. Which is good news for you if you're interested.

        Others might disagree but I like the straight up swap of Escobar and Peraza. You get the older, defensive-minded, SS veteran to help you compete down the road and Kansas City gets a younger guy who can potentially straighten himself out into becoming a truly productive player in their system. It's low risk for both teams.
        Last edited by MrSerendipity; 05-19-2018, 08:35 PM. Reason: I used the word "honestly" like three times in this post. A bit much bro.
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        • HighCmpPct
          Denny 3K
          • Oct 2011
          • 3596

          #1339
          Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

          Originally posted by MrSerendipity
          I hate to keep beating this drum but Minnesota. I have a few different franchises and I always end up moving one of Realmuto, Lucroy or Chirinos up there. Ramos would be a solid and relatively inexpensive move for them.



          I like this out of the box thinking here man. Always nice to see a fresh name (Escobar) in the thread. Quite honestly, Escobar is pretty much without surplus. Which is good news for you if you're interested.

          Others might disagree but I like the straight up swap of Escobar and Peraza. You get the older, defensive-minded, SS veteran to help you compete down the road and Kansas City gets a younger guy who can potentially straighten himself out into becoming a truly productive player in their system. It's low risk for both teams.
          I don't hate the Peraza for Escobar deal, personally I would like to see a lotto pick going back to CIN along with him tho. Just me.

          MIN kinda out of it, but I don't have them selling players, except for a Dozier trade. So could possibly still make sense if they would have plans to resign him after the season.

          What you think?

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          • MrSerendipity
            MVP
            • Jun 2013
            • 1397

            #1340
            Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

            Originally posted by HighCmpPct
            I don't hate the Peraza for Escobar deal, personally I would like to see a lotto pick going back to CIN along with him tho. Just me.
            I don't think that is far-fetched.
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            • agentlaw13
              Pro
              • Feb 2009
              • 557

              #1341
              Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

              Originally posted by HighCmpPct
              Off my head tho, SF seems like a possible good fit for Duvall if they're still in it. They could use the power.


              Yeah, SF is only 3 games out and they could use the power. Another option I noticed...Boston is in need of a LF w/some power with Martinez and Benintendi both on the DL (JDM out 2 months and AB out 6+).

              How does a Duvall for Swihart deal look?

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              • HighCmpPct
                Denny 3K
                • Oct 2011
                • 3596

                #1342
                Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

                Originally posted by agentlaw13
                Yeah, SF is only 3 games out and they could use the power. Another option I noticed...Boston is in need of a LF w/some power with Martinez and Benintendi both on the DL (JDM out 2 months and AB out 6+).

                How does a Duvall for Swihart deal look?
                Swihart is hard to get a concrete value on, but to me Swihart is worth more than Duvall. Especially with him being able to play C.

                How about Robinson Chirinos, Nick Hundley, or Russell Martin interest you?

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                • HighCmpPct
                  Denny 3K
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 3596

                  #1343
                  Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

                  You could swing a deal for Swihart, but he's gonna cost more than you probably wanna give up. Just to split time with Barnhart.

                  Do you have 30-team control on? I would consider sending Nelson Cruz to BOS if SEA is out if it.

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                  • agentlaw13
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                    • Feb 2009
                    • 557

                    #1344
                    Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

                    Originally posted by HighCmpPct
                    You could swing a deal for Swihart, but he's gonna cost more than you probably wanna give up. Just to split time with Barnhart.

                    Do you have 30-team control on? I would consider sending Nelson Cruz to BOS if SEA is out if it.

                    I do like the Cruz to Boston idea. Yeah I’m playing with 30 team control so I’ll look into it

                    Originally posted by HighCmpPct
                    Swihart is hard to get a concrete value on, but to me Swihart is worth more than Duvall. Especially with him being able to play C.



                    How about Robinson Chirinos, Nick Hundley, or Russell Martin interest you?


                    I’ll check those guys out too. Barnhart is not swinging the bat well so whoever I pursue for catcher has a chance to start over Barnhart.

                    Thanks for the help.

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                    • legacyme3
                      Pro
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 572

                      #1345
                      Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

                      Swihart is hard to get a value on because he's simultaneously available and unavailable at the same time.

                      To call him a catcher is disingenuous, because outside of the one inning there this season, he hasn't been proven to be capable, defensively, of handling the position anymore, since his most recent injury.

                      At present, he's a first baseman/left fielder, with no options, who can't hit, is mediocre defensively, and isn't given playing time because the Sox have 2 better options at each of the two positions he CAN play. It's gotten to the point where his agent actually requested a trade.

                      Adding to the problems, the Red Sox seemingly have no interest in moving him, or are veiling it really well. I would assume, based on what I've seen, that the Sox are holding out for a team to get desperate (which won't happen) or are looking for the best offer before Pedroia comes back later this month.

                      In either case, the value will not be huge. Personally? If you offered me Duvall for Swihart, I'd probably take it, because at least Duvall would be given the opportunity to play, and provides some offensive threat. Swihart, at present, does not. But I'm not the GM, and the Red Sox would almost assuredly not want Duvall, especially with our OF being "loaded" in their perspective (they think we have four OF, but JBJ is really not worth rostering right this minute)

                      If we're talking the Reds, as a match for Swihart, I'd want Austin Brice. Our pen is a bigger concern than anything else we can address on our own. If he's not available, I'd want Tony Santillan or Jesse Winker (assuming he has options, I haven't researched that).

                      Hope that helps you.
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                      • MrSerendipity
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2013
                        • 1397

                        #1346
                        Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

                        Originally posted by HighCmpPct
                        I don't hate the Peraza for Escobar deal, personally I would like to see a lotto pick going back to CIN along with him tho. Just me.

                        MIN kinda out of it, but I don't have them selling players, except for a Dozier trade. So could possibly still make sense if they would have plans to resign him after the season.

                        What you think?
                        Sorry bud, I must have missed the final part of your post. Alright Minnesota is out of it, we still have some options here.



                        Washington

                        This seems to make some sense right? He's a former National so a reunion is definitely in the picture barring they've already acquired a catcher. How is Wieters doing? If this seems like a good fit, I think a trade like this is solid enough to get the job done.

                        WAS REC: Wilson Ramos
                        TAM REC: Raudy Read | Jefry Rodriguez

                        Milwaukee

                        Is Milwaukee competing? If so, I think they would be good with upgrading their catching corps here.

                        MIL REC: Wilson Ramos
                        TAM REC: Jacob Nottingham | Trey Supak

                        Colorado

                        This team makes a lot of sense for me too as Colorado is a competitive team with a natural use for an upgrade at catcher.

                        COL REC: Wilson Ramos
                        TAM REC: Dom Nunez | Jesus Tinoco

                        Boston

                        Now I'm going to admit that I might be a little off my ship here. Anyone is welcome to reel me back in here. But this is just a bit of an idea. Swihart seems to be on the way out of Boston and I think Tampa sees there is some untapped potential there right. If Boston is seeking an upgrade at catcher in Ramos, they're paying a tax. So how about this?

                        BOS REC: Wilson Ramos | Sergio Romo
                        TAM REC: Blake Swihart | Travis Lakins
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                        • alston4659
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2017
                          • 360

                          #1347
                          Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

                          In my Padres franchise I'm looking to acquire Mike Moustakas from the Royals. I saw on the sheet that his surplus is 10M so who would I have to give up in order to trade for him?

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                          • GamecocksLaw17
                            MVP
                            • Jun 2015
                            • 1503

                            #1348
                            Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

                            Originally posted by legacyme3
                            Swihart is hard to get a value on because he's simultaneously available and unavailable at the same time.

                            To call him a catcher is disingenuous, because outside of the one inning there this season, he hasn't been proven to be capable, defensively, of handling the position anymore, since his most recent injury.

                            At present, he's a first baseman/left fielder, with no options, who can't hit, is mediocre defensively, and isn't given playing time because the Sox have 2 better options at each of the two positions he CAN play. It's gotten to the point where his agent actually requested a trade.

                            Adding to the problems, the Red Sox seemingly have no interest in moving him, or are veiling it really well. I would assume, based on what I've seen, that the Sox are holding out for a team to get desperate (which won't happen) or are looking for the best offer before Pedroia comes back later this month.

                            In either case, the value will not be huge. Personally? If you offered me Duvall for Swihart, I'd probably take it, because at least Duvall would be given the opportunity to play, and provides some offensive threat. Swihart, at present, does not. But I'm not the GM, and the Red Sox would almost assuredly not want Duvall, especially with our OF being "loaded" in their perspective (they think we have four OF, but JBJ is really not worth rostering right this minute)

                            If we're talking the Reds, as a match for Swihart, I'd want Austin Brice. Our pen is a bigger concern than anything else we can address on our own. If he's not available, I'd want Tony Santillan or Jesse Winker (assuming he has options, I haven't researched that).

                            Hope that helps you.
                            Winker is a top 100 prospect so based on all the negatives you mentioned on Swihart I can't see that match working out. Now getting a reliever for Swihart seems reasonable like you had said

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                            • redsoxfan31
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 1047

                              #1349
                              Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

                              Originally posted by MrSerendipity
                              Sorry bud, I must have missed the final part of your post. Alright Minnesota is out of it, we still have some options here.



                              Washington

                              This seems to make some sense right? He's a former National so a reunion is definitely in the picture barring they've already acquired a catcher. How is Wieters doing? If this seems like a good fit, I think a trade like this is solid enough to get the job done.

                              WAS REC: Wilson Ramos
                              TAM REC: Raudy Read | Jefry Rodriguez

                              Milwaukee

                              Is Milwaukee competing? If so, I think they would be good with upgrading their catching corps here.

                              MIL REC: Wilson Ramos
                              TAM REC: Jacob Nottingham | Trey Supak

                              Colorado

                              This team makes a lot of sense for me too as Colorado is a competitive team with a natural use for an upgrade at catcher.

                              COL REC: Wilson Ramos
                              TAM REC: Dom Nunez | Jesus Tinoco

                              Boston

                              Now I'm going to admit that I might be a little off my ship here. Anyone is welcome to reel me back in here. But this is just a bit of an idea. Swihart seems to be on the way out of Boston and I think Tampa sees there is some untapped potential there right. If Boston is seeking an upgrade at catcher in Ramos, they're paying a tax. So how about this?

                              BOS REC: Wilson Ramos | Sergio Romo
                              TAM REC: Blake Swihart | Travis Lakins
                              Given that Boston just signed Vazquez to an extension through 2022, I don't think they'd be trading Swihart for a catcher, especially not within division because they don't want that potential of Swihart breaking out elsewhere and raking in the division for years to come. IRL Boston is going to want a reliever for Swihart, especially with Smith going down for most likely the year so I think any Swihart deal starts with an experienced RP or a young SP they could develop.
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                              • jdiaz891
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                                • Mar 2013
                                • 148

                                #1350
                                Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

                                What would it cost the Mets to make a move for Swihart?

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