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  • Heroesandvillains
    MVP
    • May 2009
    • 5974

    #2086
    Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by Totte
    You're right. How about Chris Stewart of the Giants? He's with the Yankees IRL so depending on what roster set you're using, maybe he could be had from SF? He's a strong defensive catcher as well
    Ugh...

    Forgot all about him. How is that possible? I looked through every team last night too (didn't see him, but didn't think to look) and I'm also a Yankees fan in real life!!! And he's playing pretty well at that!

    Good call, but too late. He'd definitely be a better backup than Flores. Oh well, Flores will do exactly what I need him to do while Romine and Cervelli...well, find themselves! LOL!
    Last edited by Heroesandvillains; 05-16-2012, 10:24 AM.

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    • 37
      Fear The Spear
      • Apr 2011
      • 10346

      #2087
      Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by Heroesandvillains
      Ugh...

      Forgot all about him. I looked through every team last night too (didn't see him, but didn't think to look) and I'm also a Yankees fan in real life!!! And he's playing pretty well at that!

      Good call, but too late. He's definitely be a better backup than Flores. Oh well, Flores will do exactly what I need him to do while Romine and Cervelli...well, find themselves! LOL!
      due to my disdain for the Yanks, i didnt list him on purpose lol jk...i wouldn't say Stewart would be a better then backup then Flores however...Flores gives u more with the bat
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      • Heroesandvillains
        MVP
        • May 2009
        • 5974

        #2088
        Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by NoFatGirlz4Me37
        @ heroesandvillains....a) i agree with not overpaying for Doumit.....good bat, but not worth 2 B's b) the situation u described with trading for Flores is not uncommon in The Show....there's numerous occasions where the CPU will ONLY accept a trade if they throw in a irrelevant benchwarmer/irrelevant low-level prospect or if u have to.....fortunately Michaels fits in the irrelevant benchwarmer category...glad to see u finally got your backup catcher
        I'm pretty excited. Thank you.

        I also called up Betances to see if he could fill the LRP void that Garcia left behind. Personally, I think SCEA rated him too low. Anyone else agree with me? Anyway...

        2.2 IP, 3 ER, 2 K, 2 BB. No suprises there (in the BB's department). But, at least he's better than Freddy...though I'm thinking Betances may not have the control to be a temporary long man.
        Last edited by Heroesandvillains; 05-16-2012, 10:32 AM.

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          Fear The Spear
          • Apr 2011
          • 10346

          #2089
          Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by Heroesandvillains
          I'm pretty excited. Thank you.

          I also called up Betances to see if he could fill the LRP void that Garcia left behind. Personally, I think SCEA rated him too low. Anyone else agree with me? Anyway...

          2.2 IP, 3 ER, 2 K, 2 BB. No suprises there. But, at least he's better than Freddy...though I'm thinking Betances may not have the control to be a temporary long man.
          ANYBODY's better then Freddy lol....and i would leave Betances as a starter....there has to be better options that actually fill the need whether that guy is on ur team, another team or in FA
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          • bugle987
            Banned
            • Apr 2011
            • 1289

            #2090
            Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

            @heroesandvillains what about baneulos as your lrp, another prospect that could pitch in the bullpen for a while, but will ulitimatley be a starter when he hits his peak

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            • Heroesandvillains
              MVP
              • May 2009
              • 5974

              #2091
              Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by NoFatGirlz4Me37
              ANYBODY's better then Freddy lol....and i would leave Betances as a starter....there has to be better options that actually fill the need whether that guy is on ur team, another team or in FA
              Do you feel like SCEA rated Betances too low?

              Anyway, I only opted to try him for a few reasons:

              1. I may need an SP and figured this could be his audition, so to speak.

              2. In real life, though not the likely choice, I think NYY would place him on their short list for call ups (to be fair, I have no idea how he's performing this year in real life).

              3. Though wild, he was rumored to have a strong chance of making the 25 man this ST. Above Banuelos.

              All that said, I think he should probably be sent back down. I just have no other internal options other than young prospects to eat up innings.

              Time to go cheapie long man FA hunting. Thanks Nofatgirlz. I always appreciate your help.

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                Fear The Spear
                • Apr 2011
                • 10346

                #2092
                Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by Heroesandvillains
                Do you feel like SCEA rated Betances too low?

                Anyway, I only opted to try him for a few reasons:

                1. I may need an SP and figured this could be his audition, so to speak.

                2. In real life, though not the likely choice, I think NYY would place him on their short list for call ups (to be fair, I have no idea how he's performing this year in real life).

                3. Though wild, he was rumored to have a strong chance of making the 25 man I real life this. Well above Banuelos.

                All that said, I think he should probably be sent back down. I just have no other internal options other than young prospects to eat up innings.

                Time to go cheapie long man FA hunting. Thanks Nofatgirlz. I always appreciate your help.
                i have no idea how he's rated in the game so i cant answer that....i get what ur tryin to do....i guess im just in the minority where *if ur groomed to be a starter in the minors, ur gunna start in the majors*...except in certain circumstances....i jus hate to waste good young arms for one/two innings every other day....yeah let him pitch in the minors for a bit...u can always have him as your ace in the hole so to speak if somebody goes down...and u welcome
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                • Heroesandvillains
                  MVP
                  • May 2009
                  • 5974

                  #2093
                  Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by bugle987
                  @heroesandvillains what about baneulos as your lrp, another prospect that could pitch in the bullpen for a while, but will ulitimatley be a starter when he hits his peak
                  He's definitely an option, but I really don't want to mess with his progression. If he struggles, I'm afraid he'll get a cold symbol and possibly regress. Betances I expect to be hit or miss. Banuelos I expect to be a homerun.

                  Next year, I plan on placing Banuelos in my rotation. And in September, I'll give him a few starts anyway.

                  I'd just rather wait until then to use Banuelos. Betances I figured just seemed like a more realistic option. But even then, making him the long man probably isn't THAT realistic either.

                  I think I should just leave the Killer B's in AAA and hit up the FA pool. Nofatgirlz makes some great points.
                  Last edited by Heroesandvillains; 05-16-2012, 10:48 AM.

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                  • 37
                    Fear The Spear
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 10346

                    #2094
                    Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by Heroesandvillains
                    He's definitely an option, but I really don't want to mess with his progression. If he struggles, I'm afraid he'll get a cold symbol and possibly regress. Betances I expect to be hit or miss. Banuelos I expect to be a homerun.

                    Next year, I plan on placing Banuelos in my rotation. And in September, I'll give him a few starts anyway.

                    I'd just rather wait until then to use Banuelos. Betances I figured just seemed like a more realistic option. But even then, making him the long man probably isn't THAT realistic either.

                    I think I should just leave the Killer B's in AAA and hit up the FA pool. Nofatgirlz makes some great points.
                    there's some decent LRP's on other teams that can be had if no FA's interest u....try Jeff Karstens from Pitt
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                    • Heroesandvillains
                      MVP
                      • May 2009
                      • 5974

                      #2095
                      Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by NoFatGirlz4Me37
                      there's some decent LRP's on other teams that can be had if no FA's interest u....try Jeff Karstens from Pitt
                      LOL at Jeff Karstens. Ahh...the good old days when Mark Melancon and Ian Kennedy looked like possible studs. Kei Igawa too! Man, were all four of them terrible!!!

                      Still, how the Yankees misjudged Kennedy's talent is beyond me. I didn't see it, so don't get me wrong. But THAT'S not my job.

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                      • 37
                        Fear The Spear
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 10346

                        #2096
                        Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by Heroesandvillains
                        LOL at Jeff Karstens. Ahh...the good old days when Mark Melancon and Ian Kennedy looked like possible studs. Kei Igawa too! Man, were all four of them terrible!!!

                        Still, how the Yankees misjudged Kennedy's talent is beyond me. I didn't see it, so don't get me wrong. But THAT'S not my job.
                        hey..jus saying....Karstens would fit the role perfectly as the long guy...i NEVER said to trade for him to be a starter
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                        • bugle987
                          Banned
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 1289

                          #2097
                          Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                          Why not put your prospects in the bullpen when there's no room for them in the rotation. Atlanta has been doing it and it seems to be working for them. Why have them stay in AAA, if there killing it there and they have no purpose. Get them some expoerience pitching in the big leagues and then if theres an injury or someone struggles they can step into the rotation.

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                          • KomicJ
                            Pro
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 625

                            #2098
                            Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                            Alright, I'm looking and looking and looking...and I always come back to Trumbo/Trout as the ideal acquisitions for my Nats. So here's a scenario I had in mind, let me know what you think.

                            Nationals get: (1B) Mark Trumbo and (CF) Mike Trout. Plus, if judge necessary, the Nationals would take either one of Ryan Langerhans or Bobby Abreu salary, which the Angels are apparently trying to get rid of.

                            Angels get: (1B) Xavier Nady, (3B) Anthony Rendon and (LF) Mike Morse.

                            Reasoning
                            The Nationals gets their CF, and upgrade another one of their position of needs at 1B with Trumbo, who finally gets a chance to be an everyday starter. He's not a huge upgrade to Morse defensively, but a natural 1B rather than playing Morse at 1B. The moves also allow the Nationals to use LaRoche as a pinch hitter, or DH when playing the American league.

                            The Angels lose a very good prospect in Trout, but replace him with Morse who should provide more offense right now in their attempt to capture a championship. They also acquire another A-prospect in Rendon, who's playing 3B, which is probably the weakest spot in their line-up right now, judging by the players overall. The Angels have a decent prospect there in Cowart, but it seems Rendon is a lot better (ranked 3rd in mlb.com list at 3B, 25th overall). They lose Trumbo, but with Pujols and Morales playing at 1st base, I'm thinking they could easily do without him, even as a DH. They also get rid of an unwanted contract, replacing him by a cheaper player who can play 1B, or all three outfielders position, giving them even more flexibility.

                            ---

                            Two questions...
                            1) Does it seem fair ?
                            2) If so, I'd like to know if you see anyway to include Maicer Izturis to that deal, as I'm also in need of a utility player that can play all around the infield. Obvisouly, I would have to add something else, and do the trade in two different ones, but I force myself to make only one trade (one team in this case) before the season, and Izturis seemed like a good option for what I needed.

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                            • Heroesandvillains
                              MVP
                              • May 2009
                              • 5974

                              #2099
                              Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by bugle987
                              Why not put your prospects in the bullpen when there's no room for them in the rotation. Atlanta has been doing it and it seems to be working for them. Why have them stay in AAA, if there killing it there and they have no purpose. Get them some expoerience pitching in the big leagues and then if theres an injury or someone struggles they can step into the rotation.
                              Was this addressed to me?

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                                Fear The Spear
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 10346

                                #2100
                                Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by nusie
                                They are in last place, 8 games out already, on May 26th.
                                then Santana doesnt make sense...only interesting components would be prospects.......i'd probably give up 2 B's for Arencibia
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