2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[gubunko]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Exactly.

Aging veterans on the final year of contracts that are performing badly never get traded in real life. They get released. I just had to DFA Garcia, but only because I want to trade for a catcher to fill out the 40 man.

Could I trade Garcia? Yes. But that's a flaw in the game's system.

I agree. It's never a penalty to release an old veteran. Especially Corey Patterson.

[jlech1805]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

30 Team Franchise and I eliminated the DH.

Looking to trade some guys who no longer have a spot in the lineup.

For KC Billy Butler has no spot with Hosmer in front at 1B.

TB has Carlos Pena at 1B and needs some O.

Butler for Hellickson straight up doesn't seem right.

Should I throw in Bruce Chen? or Maybe Montgomery or another prospect and have Rays sending Jennings to KC?

Your thoughts are greatly appreciated.

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Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

30 Team Franchise and I eliminated the DH.

Looking to trade some guys who no longer have a spot in the lineup.

For KC Billy Butler has no spot with Hosmer in front at 1B.

TB has Carlos Pena at 1B and needs some O.

Butler for Hellickson straight up doesn't seem right.

Should I throw in Bruce Chen? or Maybe Montgomery or another prospect and have Rays sending Jennings to KC?

Your thoughts are greatly appreciated.

where would Butler play if Pena is manning 1st? and Chen has no trade value

[jlech1805]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

where would Butler play if Pena is manning 1st? and Chen has no trade value

Pena is not a long term answer he'd pinch hit off bench.

How about Sanchez or Hochevar ?

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Pena is not a long term answer he'd pinch hit off bench.

How about Sanchez or Hochevar ?

Rays wouldnt want either guy especially Hochevar

[grgmths1433]

Pena is not a long term answer he'd pinch hit off bench.

How about Sanchez or Hochevar ?

This Jarred Cosart is a beast in AAA. He throwing 94+ darts. He may be my first call up. Brett Wallace doing pretty well too. As well as Brad Synder. Cosart is the leading candidate. I with him in AAA it felt great. The pitching matchup was Cosart vs Mark Rodgers.

Galaxy S2

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This Jarred Cosart is a beast in AAA. He throwing 94+ darts. He may be my first call up. Brett Wallace doing pretty well too. As well as Brad Synder. Cosart is the leading candidate. I with him in AAA it felt great. The pitching matchup was Cosart vs Mark Rodgers.

Galaxy S2

yupp...Cosart is indeed a beast.....i like Wallace although i wished he'd hit for more power

[IK720]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Back to my trade for Bryce Harper I mentioned earlier to start out my Astros Organization. Once again I know it would never happen and that doesn't bother me all that much as long as it works out to be fair. How would you rate the trade on a fairness level if I threw the Nationals one of these guys

Julio Teheran - 22 years old, SP, A Potential. #5 on baseball america's top prospects for 2012 (got from the braves in a fair trade in my opinion)

or

George Springer - 23 years old, CF, A Potential. #59 on baseball america's top prospects for 2012 (from houston's organization)


That would make the trade..

Wandy, Carlos Lee, Jonathon Singleton (A rated prospect from houston), and one of those two listed above

for

Harper and a nobody from the nationals organization (need somebody for the second trade to work obviously)



I think putting one of them in would be adequate compensation.. 2 veterans who upgraded the current team, and 2 good young prospects. Thoughts?

[Totte]

I just had a bad experience with Bonifacio in my first franchise with the Marlins... ;o)

Did he sleep with Ozzies wife?

[Totte]

Great idea, except they're in the playoff hunt too (I'm the Yankees and in first place). There's no they'd deal with me in real life. Would they?

You're right. How about Chris Stewart of the Giants? He's with the Yankees IRL so depending on what roster set you're using, maybe he could be had from SF? He's a strong defensive catcher as well

[TheKT]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

I went around to see what I could get in return of LaRoche (or Nady since the CPU seems to think he has more value) and its really slim. The Rockies would agree to send me Fowler for LaRoche, but it seems to be another case of poor CPU judgment. The Rays would agree to ship me Upton for Nady, but with Pena at 1st base, I think they would be crazy to do that.

In my Nats franny I wanted to move Morse to first, put Harper in left, and start Bernadina in center. It worked out well... when I was finally able to ship away LaRoche. No one wanted him at the begining of the year, had to wait until the injury bug bit. About a week into June, Howard went down for the Phils, I don't normally trade in the division but I just wanted to get something out of him, Was able to nab a "B" and 2 "C"s for LaRoche and a AAA reliever. After that it was great, brought Harper up and the rest was history. But give Bernadina a look, dude rakes for me and he's fast as ****, doesn't have the best arm in center, but that's where Ankiel comes in.

Just my 12 cents.

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Back to my trade for Bryce Harper I mentioned earlier to start out my Astros Organization. Once again I know it would never happen and that doesn't bother me all that much as long as it works out to be fair. How would you rate the trade on a fairness level if I threw the Nationals one of these guys

Julio Teheran - 22 years old, SP, A Potential. #5 on baseball america's top prospects for 2012 (got from the braves in a fair trade in my opinion)

or

George Springer - 23 years old, CF, A Potential. #59 on baseball america's top prospects for 2012 (from houston's organization)


That would make the trade..

Wandy, Carlos Lee, Jonathon Singleton (A rated prospect from houston), and one of those two listed above

for

Harper and a nobody from the nationals organization (need somebody for the second trade to work obviously)



I think putting one of them in would be adequate compensation.. 2 veterans who upgraded the current team, and 2 good young prospects. Thoughts?

Nats wouldn't want Lee or Wandy......make it Singleton, Teheran and Springer

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Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Alright, need a little help here, guys.

I'm currently in a Mets franchise where I am 25-19, and just barely hanging onto first place over Atlanta (1.5GB) and Philly (2.5GB) and need some advice on who I should offer for a certain player.

The player I'm looking at is J.P. Arencibia (.287/2/10) of the Blue Jays. The reason I am looking at him, is because he is riding the bench in Toronto, because for some reason, they called up Travis d'Arnaud (.317/5/19), and he's been hitting pretty solidly for them. Also, Josh Thole (.257/2/12) has started hitting a cold streak, and my backup Mike Nickeas (.151/0/3) is worthless.

When in the trade menu, they are looking for a SP/RP/2B and I am looking for SP/RP/C. Also, when screwing around, I offered them Manny Acosta (0-1, 4.55 ERA) and Juan Urbina (2-0, 2.27 ERA), a 18/19yr old B potential, and the bar filled itself up. I personally don't think that's a fair trade, and that's where I'm struggling to come up with something.

In the beginning of the year, I had planned on moving Santana (1-5, 2.81 ERA) and Jason Bay (.298/6/34), but recently, want to keep Bay, because he's having the best offensive production on the team, and can't afford to lose that right now. The only other players on my team I WILL NOT move are Daniel Murphy, David Wright, Ike Davis, Jordany Valdespin, Dillon Gee, Jon Niese, Zach Wheeler, Matt Harvey, and Kirk Nieuwenhuis.

If you think I should include Santana into the mix, who else should I try and get from Toronto? Because I put that scenario into the game, and I was able to get Arencibia, Drabek, and a B pitcher in their minors system.

Any help, ideas, suggestions, would help. Even if it might be a catcher from another team.

are the Jays in contention? if not, Santana wouldnt make sense

[Heroesandvillains]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

A *C* and a *D* is fair for Doumit

Yeah, I thought so too. Even though he was on the trading block, MIN wanted a one of my organizations top 5 prospects, and no one lower than a B even moved the meter. Essentially, it would have taken two B's to land him. No thank you. I may need a decent starting pitcher later on!

u forgot David Ross from the Braves

Boy, ATL didn't. Not as steep as Doumit, but too steep for my needs. His hot symbol probably didn't help matters any. Thanks but no thanks...

Jesus Flores from the Nats

Bingo!!!

Fortunately for me, a prospect catcher with a hot symbol ranks above him in the depth chart causing Flores - who's hitting like .100 - to be 3rd overall in the Nat's organization for catchers.

Here's the thing that REALLY ticks me off about the game's trade logic though:

Because it's June 1st in my Franchise, and the Nats aren't in either "Rebuild" or "Playoff Push Mode," even though the meter would fill all the way up for a young and cheap C RP (which is FAIR), the trade always got rejected!

It wasn't until I offered to take Jason Michaels (and only Jason Michaels, who's relatively cheap, by the way), that the ALREADY full meter bar went from a decline to an approval.

What the hell???

So I just went ahead and did the deal, releasing Michaels afterwards. It's almost like the Nats wanted my prospect and a salary dump, except they seem to have forgotten that Michaels costs less than 300K.

So I just pretended that Michaels was a real D-bag in the clubhouse and that the Nats just really needed to cut ties with him.

What a disappointment.

The C prospect for Flores was enough to get the deal done. Even the CPU thought so with a full trade bar. But every time they rejected it! Jeez...just because it's June 1st doesn't mean the team philosophy should be THAT hard to overcome! They were in "Normal" mode.

Not to me...

Anyway, I think my deal was fair. And I had no problems releasing Michaels myself. Basically, I'm just pretending his involvement never happened because even the CPU itself felt Flores (at .100) for a C RP benefited them.

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@ heroesandvillains....a) i agree with not overpaying for Doumit.....good bat, but not worth 2 B's b) the situation u described with trading for Flores is not uncommon in The Show....there's numerous occasions where the CPU will ONLY accept a trade if they throw in a irrelevant benchwarmer/irrelevant low-level prospect or if u have to.....fortunately Michaels fits in the irrelevant benchwarmer category...glad to see u finally got your backup catcher