TNK - 2012 Realism Sliders Thread

**PhilliesFan13** · 03-21-2012, 06:49 PM

Re: TNK - 2012 Realism Sliders Thread

After playing my most recent game, I am convinced that the manager hook slider needs to be bumped up a click or two. This is yet another game where I've made the opposing starter throw a ton of pitches. By the start of the 5th inning Cueto was already at about 110 pitches, 6 hits, and 5 walks allowed, and he was still in there. He didn't leave until the 6th inning! Doesn't seem right to me. Finished his start with 118 pitches in 6 innings.

<TABLE class=osdyn cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width=575><TBODY><TR class=masthead><TD colSpan=13 align=middle>Cincinnati Reds at Philadelphia Phillies</TD></TR><TR class=stathead><TD width="40%">Mar 21, 2012</TD><TD width="5%" align=right>1</TD><TD width="5%" align=right>2</TD><TD width="5%" align=right>3</TD><TD width="5%" align=right>4</TD><TD width="5%" align=right>5</TD><TD width="5%" align=right>6</TD><TD width="5%" align=right>7</TD><TD width="5%" align=right>8</TD><TD width="5%" align=right>9</TD><TD width="5%" align=right>R</TD><TD width="5%" align=right>H</TD><TD width="5%" align=right>E</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD>Cincinnati ()</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>2</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD class=active align=right>4</TD><TD align=right>9</TD><TD align=right>0</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD>Philadelphia ()</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>3</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD class=active align=right>3</TD><TD align=right>8</TD><TD align=right>0</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD colSpan=13 align=middle>W: Johnny Cueto L: Vance Worley S: Ryan Madson</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class="osdyn spacer" cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width=575><TBODY><TR class=masthead><TD colSpan=5>Scoring Summary</TD></TR><TR class=stathead><TD width="84%" colSpan=3>SCORING DETAILS</TD><TD width="8%" align=right>CIN</TD><TD width="8%" align=right>PHI</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD width="7%" align=middle>PHI</TD><TD width="7%" align=middle>3</TD><TD width="70%">Ryan Howard bases loaded walk (Worley scores)</TD><TD width="8%" align=right>0</TD><TD width="8%" align=right>1</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD width="7%" align=middle>PHI</TD><TD width="7%" align=middle>3</TD><TD width="70%">Shane Victorino singled to CF (Pierre scores, Utley scores)</TD><TD width="8%" align=right>0</TD><TD width="8%" align=right>3</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD width="7%" align=middle>CIN</TD><TD width="7%" align=middle>4</TD><TD width="70%">Joey Votto solo HR to RF</TD><TD width="8%" align=right>1</TD><TD width="8%" align=right>3</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD width="7%" align=middle>CIN</TD><TD width="7%" align=middle>5</TD><TD width="70%">Brandon Phillips singled to CF (Hanigan scores)</TD><TD width="8%" align=right>2</TD><TD width="8%" align=right>3</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD width="7%" align=middle>CIN</TD><TD width="7%" align=middle>6</TD><TD width="70%">Scott Rolen 2-run HR to LF (Votto scores)</TD><TD width="8%" align=right>4</TD><TD width="8%" align=right>3</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class="osdyn spacer" cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width=575><TBODY><TR class=masthead_alt><TD bgColor=#ed174f colSpan=9>Cincinnati Reds</TD></TR><TR class=stathead><TD width="41%">HITTERS</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>AB</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>R</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>H</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>RBI</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>BB</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>SO</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>HR</TD><TD width="10%" align=right>AVG</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD colSpan=9>BATTING:
2B: C. Heisey
HR: J. Votto, S. Rolen
RBI: B. Phillips, J. Votto, S. Rolen 2
SAC: J. Cueto 2
GIDP: R. Ludwick</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD colSpan=9>BASERUNNING:
SB: B. Phillips</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class="osdyn spacer" cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width=575><TBODY><TR class=masthead_alt><TD bgColor=#d60024 colSpan=9>Philadelphia Phillies</TD></TR><TR class=stathead><TD width="41%">HITTERS</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>AB</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>R</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>H</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>RBI</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>BB</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>SO</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>HR</TD><TD width="10%" align=right>AVG</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD colSpan=9>BATTING:
2B: S. Victorino
RBI: S. Victorino 2, R. Howard
SAC: J. Pierre
GIDP: C. Utley 2</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class="osdyn spacer" cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width=575><TBODY><TR class=masthead_alt><TD bgColor=#ed174f colSpan=9>Cincinnati Reds</TD></TR><TR class=stathead><TD width="41%">PITCHERS</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>IP</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>H</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>R</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>ER</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>BB</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>SO</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>HR</TD><TD width="10%" align=right>ERA</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD>Johnny Cueto (W)</TD><TD align=right>6.0</TD><TD align=right>6</TD><TD align=right>3</TD><TD align=right>3</TD><TD align=right>5</TD><TD align=right>7</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD class=active align=right>4.50</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>Bill Bray (H)</TD><TD align=right>1.0</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD class=active align=right>0.00</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD>Sean Marshall (H)</TD><TD align=right>1.0</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD class=active align=right>0.00</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>Ryan Madson (S)</TD><TD align=right>1.0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD class=active align=right>0.00</TD></TR><TR class=stathead><TD>TEAM TOTALS</TD><TD align=right>9.0</TD><TD align=right>8</TD><TD align=right>3</TD><TD align=right>3</TD><TD align=right>5</TD><TD align=right>10</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>3.00</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD colSpan=9>PITCHING:
Pitches-Strikes: Johnny Cueto 118-62%
Pitches-Strikes: Bill Bray 17-59%
Pitches-Strikes: Sean Marshall 16-69%
Pitches-Strikes: Ryan Madson 10-80%</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class="osdyn spacer" cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width=575><TBODY><TR class=masthead_alt><TD bgColor=#d60024 colSpan=9>Philadelphia Phillies</TD></TR><TR class=stathead><TD width="41%">PITCHERS</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>IP</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>H</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>R</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>ER</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>BB</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>SO</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>HR</TD><TD width="10%" align=right>ERA</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD>Vance Worley (L)</TD><TD align=right>6.0</TD><TD align=right>6</TD><TD align=right>4</TD><TD align=right>4</TD><TD align=right>3</TD><TD align=right>4</TD><TD align=right>2</TD><TD class=active align=right>6.00</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>Michael Stutes</TD><TD align=right>0.2</TD><TD align=right>2</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD class=active align=right>0.00</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD>Antonio Bastardo</TD><TD align=right>0.2</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD class=active align=right>0.00</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>Jose Contreras</TD><TD align=right>1.2</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD class=active align=right>0.00</TD></TR><TR class=stathead><TD>TEAM TOTALS</TD><TD align=right>9.0</TD><TD align=right>9</TD><TD align=right>4</TD><TD align=right>4</TD><TD align=right>4</TD><TD align=right>5</TD><TD align=right>2</TD><TD align=right>4.00</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD colSpan=9>PITCHING:
Pitches-Strikes: Vance Worley 90-64%
Pitches-Strikes: Michael Stutes 13-54%
Pitches-Strikes: Antonio Bastardo 7-57%
Pitches-Strikes: Jose Contreras 23-61%</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

**PhilliesFan13** · 03-21-2012, 09:01 PM

Re: TNK - 2012 Realism Sliders Thread

Decided to start a test franchise until OSFM comes out. Want to see how some games play out in a row with fatigue and other factors involved. Here's the Opening Day game.

<LINK href="<a href=" target=_blank osdyn.css? css dynasties.operationsports.com http:><HTTP: osdyn.css? css dynasties.operationsports.com type="text/css" rel="stylesheet"><TABLE class=osdyn cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width=575><TBODY><TR class=masthead><TD colSpan=13 align=middle>Philadelphia Phillies at Pittsburgh Pirates</TD></TR><TR class=stathead><TD width="40%">Apr 5, 2012</TD><TD width="5%" align=right>1</TD><TD width="5%" align=right>2</TD><TD width="5%" align=right>3</TD><TD width="5%" align=right>4</TD><TD width="5%" align=right>5</TD><TD width="5%" align=right>6</TD><TD width="5%" align=right>7</TD><TD width="5%" align=right>8</TD><TD width="5%" align=right>9</TD><TD width="5%" align=right>R</TD><TD width="5%" align=right>H</TD><TD width="5%" align=right>E</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD>Philadelphia (1-0)</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>2</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD class=active align=right>2</TD><TD align=right>9</TD><TD align=right>1</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD>Pittsburgh (0-1)</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD class=active align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>6</TD><TD align=right>0</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD colSpan=13 align=middle>W: Roy Halladay (1-0) L: A.J. Burnett (0-1) S: Jonathan Papelbon (1)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class="osdyn spacer" cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width=575><TBODY><TR class=masthead><TD colSpan=5>Scoring Summary</TD></TR><TR class=stathead><TD width="84%" colSpan=3>SCORING DETAILS</TD><TD width="8%" align=right>PHI</TD><TD width="8%" align=right>PIT</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD width="7%" align=middle>PHI</TD><TD width="7%" align=middle>7</TD><TD width="70%">Laynce Nix 2-run HR to RF (Pence scores)</TD><TD width="8%" align=right>2</TD><TD width="8%" align=right>0</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class="osdyn spacer" cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width=575><TBODY><TR class=masthead_alt><TD bgColor=#d60024 colSpan=9>Philadelphia Phillies</TD></TR><TR class=stathead><TD width="41%">HITTERS</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>AB</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>R</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>H</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>RBI</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>BB</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>SO</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>HR</TD><TD width="10%" align=right>AVG</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD colSpan=9>BATTING:
2B: L. Nix (1)
HR: L. Nix (1)
RBI: L. Nix (2)
SAC: R. Halladay
GIDP: P. Polanco, L. Nix
</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD colSpan=9>BASERUNNING:
SB: P. Polanco (1)
</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD colSpan=9>FIELDING:
E: P. Polanco (1)
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class="osdyn spacer" cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width=575><TBODY><TR class=masthead_alt><TD bgColor=#ffb00d colSpan=9>Pittsburgh Pirates</TD></TR><TR class=stathead><TD width="41%">HITTERS</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>AB</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>R</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>H</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>RBI</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>BB</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>SO</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>HR</TD><TD width="10%" align=right>AVG</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD colSpan=9>BATTING:
GIDP: J. Tabata
</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD colSpan=9>BASERUNNING:
CS: N. Walker (1)
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class="osdyn spacer" cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width=575><TBODY><TR class=masthead_alt><TD bgColor=#d60024 colSpan=9>Philadelphia Phillies</TD></TR><TR class=stathead><TD width="41%">PITCHERS</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>IP</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>H</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>R</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>ER</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>BB</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>SO</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>HR</TD><TD width="10%" align=right>ERA</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD>Roy Halladay (W, 1-0)</TD><TD align=right>8.0</TD><TD align=right>5</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>4</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD class=active align=right>0.00</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>Jonathan Papelbon (S, 1)</TD><TD align=right>1.0</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>3</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD class=active align=right>0.00</TD></TR><TR class=stathead><TD>TEAM TOTALS</TD><TD align=right>9.0</TD><TD align=right>6</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>7</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0.00</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class="osdyn spacer" cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width=575><TBODY><TR class=masthead_alt><TD bgColor=#ffb00d colSpan=9>Pittsburgh Pirates</TD></TR><TR class=stathead><TD width="41%">PITCHERS</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>IP</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>H</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>R</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>ER</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>BB</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>SO</TD><TD width="7%" align=right>HR</TD><TD width="10%" align=right>ERA</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD>A.J. Burnett (L, 0-1)</TD><TD align=right>6.1</TD><TD align=right>6</TD><TD align=right>2</TD><TD align=right>2</TD><TD align=right>2</TD><TD align=right>5</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD class=active align=right>2.84</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD>Chris Resop</TD><TD align=right>0.2</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD class=active align=right>0.00</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD>Jason Grilli</TD><TD align=right>2.0</TD><TD align=right>2</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD class=active align=right>0.00</TD></TR><TR class=stathead><TD>TEAM TOTALS</TD><TD align=right>9.0</TD><TD align=right>9</TD><TD align=right>2</TD><TD align=right>2</TD><TD align=right>2</TD><TD align=right>7</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>2.00</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

**FenwayMac** · 03-21-2012, 09:25 PM

Re: TNK - 2012 Realism Sliders Thread

Originally posted by chase2626

Paps is my closer. Lee shutting down the pirates. 5-1. Paps
Comes in gets ripped with five hits and homer.

Serves him right

Actually I agree with not following your catcher calls. Think about it, if a comeback code did exist, it would seem that the only thing that can help a computer out is deciding where you should pitch. Do the opposite of the recommendation, anything to shake it up

**chase2626** · 03-21-2012, 10:10 PM

Re: TNK - 2012 Realism Sliders Thread

Think I found another glitch. Three times. CPU on second. Fly ball off the wall. He goes to tag up. Then stops at third as I throw home missing cutoff man. Dead at the plate all three times. No reason to,come home. He actually stops at third then goes home.

**TNKNGM** · 03-21-2012, 10:35 PM

Re: TNK - 2012 Realism Sliders Thread

Playing an epic Opening Day game in my Reds franchise to hold me over until I start my real one with Boston.

In the 12th inning - neither team wants to win the game......some crazy plays happening. Miami was down to their last strike and got a solo HR to tie the game form Morrison. The Reds have been stranding a small village on the basepaths in extra innings.

Recap and box score coming shortly.....if the game ever ends

**TNKNGM** · 03-21-2012, 11:10 PM

Re: TNK - 2012 Realism Sliders Thread

1st Game of my Cincinnati Reds Franchise to hold me over until OS Full Minors come out and I roll with the Red Sox in Franchise

The game was a pitchers duel between Johnny Cueto and Mark Buehrle as both pitchers were dealing. Neither team could get any offense going until the Reds finally got on the board with 2 outs in the bottom of the 8th when Jaun Francisco was called on to pinch hit for Aroldis Chapman who was pitching in relief. Francisco stroked a ball into the gap in left center and Ryan hanigan who had walked came around to score form 1st base to out the Reds on top 1-0. The Reds brought in closer Ryan Madson for his 1st appearance as a Red to try and close it out in the top of the 9th. Madson struck out Hanley Ramirez and Mike Stanton for the first 2 outs and had Logan Morrison down to his last strike but Morrison took a fastball away over the fence in LF for a solo HR to tie the game 1-1. The Reds had chances to win it with runners in scoring position in the bottom of both the 9th & 10th innings but were unable to get the big hit. Joey Votto missed a walkoff HR by inches to leadoff the bottom of the 11th as he crushed a ball to right center that hit the top of the wall and ended up at 2nd base with a double. Scott Rolen was up next and he sac bunted to move Votto over to 3rd base with 1 out. Joey Vott was up next and he ripped a grounder to Gaby Sanchez at 1st base and he gunned down Votto at the plate and the Marlins escaped the inning with the score still tied as we went on to the 12th inning. Miami went ahead 2-1 in the top of the 15th on a solo HR by Omar Infante. The Marlins called on closer Heath Bell to come on for the bottom of the 15th to try and close it out and Bell retired the Reds in order to record the save.

<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /><link href="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/css/osdyn.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"></head><body><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td align="center" colspan="14">Marlins at Reds | </td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="37%">Apr 5, 2012</td><td align="right" width="4%">1</td><td align="right" width="4%">2</td><td align="right" width="4%">3</td><td align="right" width="4%">4</td><td align="right" width="4%">5</td><td align="right" width="4%">6</td><td align="right" width="4%">7</td><td align="right" width="4%">8</td><td align="right" width="4%">9</td><td align="center" width="15%">Extras</td><td align="right" width="4%">R</td><td align="right" width="4%">H</td><td align="right" width="4%">E</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Miami (10)</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="center">1</td><td align="right" class="active">2</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Cincinnati (0-1)</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="center">0</td><td align="right" class="active">1</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center" colspan="14"><b>W:</b> Michael Dunn (1-0) <b>L:</b> Sam Le Cure (0-1) <b>S:</b> Heath Bell (1)</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="5">Scoring Summary</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="3" width="84%">SCORING DETAILS</td><td align="right" width="8%">MIA</td><td align="right" width="8%">CIN</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center" width="7%">CIN</td><td align="center" width="7%">8</td><td width="70%">Juan Francisco doubled to LF (Hanigan scores)</td><td align="right" width="8%">0</td><td align="right" width="8%">1</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center" width="7%">MIA</td><td align="center" width="7%">9</td><td width="70%">Logan Morrison solo HR to LF </td><td align="right" width="8%">1</td><td align="right" width="8%">1</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center" width="7%">MIA</td><td align="center" width="7%">15</td><td width="70%">Omar Infante</td><td align="right" width="8%">2</td><td align="right" width="8%">1</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="575"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#0B7AC5" colspan="9"><span style="color:#FFFFFF">Miami Marlins</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="41%">HITTERS</td><td align="right" width="7%">AB</td><td align="right" width="7%">R</td><td align="right" width="7%">H</td><td align="right" width="7%">RBI</td><td align="right" width="7%">BB</td><td align="right" width="7%">SO</td><td align="right" width="7%">HR</td><td align="right" width="10%">AVG</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td colspan="9"><b><u>BATTING:</u></b><br /><b>2B:</b> Sanchez 2 (2)<br /><b>3B:</b> Morrsion (1)<br /><b>HR:</b> Morrison (1), Infante (1)<br /><b>RBI:</b> Morrison (1), Infante (1)<br /><b>GIDP:</b> Ramirez, Buck</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td colspan="9"><b><u>BASERUNNING:</u></b><br /><b>SB:</b> Reyes (1), Ramirez (1)</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td colspan="9"><b><u>FIELDING:</u></b><br /><b>E:</b> Reyes </td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="575"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#ED174F" colspan="9"><span style="color:#FFFFFF">Cincinnati Reds</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="41%">HITTERS</td><td align="right" width="7%">AB</td><td align="right" width="7%">R</td><td align="right" width="7%">H</td><td align="right" width="7%">RBI</td><td align="right" width="7%">BB</td><td align="right" width="7%">SO</td><td align="right" width="7%">HR</td><td align="right" width="10%">AVG</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td colspan="9"><b><u>BATTING:</u></b><br /><b>2B:</b> Votto (1), Hanigan (1), Francisco (1)<br /><b>RBI:</b> Francisco (1)<br /><b>SAC:</b> Rolen</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td colspan="9"><b><u>BASERUNNING:</u></b><br /><b>SB:</b> Phillips (1), Hanigan (1)<br /><b>CS:</b> Bruce</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td colspan="9"><b><u>FIELDING:</u></b><br /><b>E:</b> Phillips</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="575"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#0B7AC5" colspan="9"><span style="color:#FFFFFF">Miami Marlins</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="41%">PITCHERS</td><td align="right" width="7%">IP</td><td align="right" width="7%">H</td><td align="right" width="7%">R</td><td align="right" width="7%">ER</td><td align="right" width="7%">BB</td><td align="right" width="7%">SO</td><td align="right" width="7%">HR</td><td align="right" width="10%">ERA</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Mark Buehrle</td><td align="right">7.2</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">8</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">1.17</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Juan Oviedo</td><td align="right">1.1</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">0.00</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Steve Chisek</td><td align="right">3.0</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">0.00</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Michael Dunn (W, 1-0)</td><td align="right">2.0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">0.00</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Heath Bell (S, 1)</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">0.00</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="575"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#ED174F" colspan="9"><span style="color:#FFFFFF">Cincinnati Reds</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="41%">PITCHERS</td><td align="right" width="7%">IP</td><td align="right" width="7%">H</td><td align="right" width="7%">R</td><td align="right" width="7%">ER</td><td align="right" width="7%">BB</td><td align="right" width="7%">SO</td><td align="right" width="7%">HR</td><td align="right" width="10%">ERA</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Johnny Cueto</td><td align="right">6.0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">0.00</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Logan Ondrusek</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">0.00</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Aroldis Chapman</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">0.00</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Ryan Madson (BS, 1)</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right" class="active">9.00</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Sean Marshall</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">0.00</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Nick Masset</td><td align="right">2.0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">0.00</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Sam Le Cure (L, 0-1)</td><td align="right">2.0</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right" class="active">4.50</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Bill Bray</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">0.00</td></tr></table></body></html>

** NOTE - I know the game may play a little differently in Franchise, so I want to get some games in before considering any changes to the sliders at this time. I know we will probably reduce FOUL BALLS by a click at some point.

**TNKNGM** · 03-21-2012, 11:24 PM

Re: TNK - 2012 Realism Sliders Thread

For what it's worth - I just started game #2 of the season and I am already ahead 3-0 in the bottom of the 1st inning which helps ease my worries about the lack of offense in the first game. The Marlins scored 3 runs in the top of the 4th inning.

I'm not gonna finish this game tonight though, save it and finish maybe tomorrow.

**The Chef** · 03-22-2012, 12:29 AM

Re: TNK & ROYALE - 2012 Realism Sliders Thread

Just gonna ask, in the sliders listed you have it as Steal Frequency listed above Steal Ability but in game they are opposite, are the values listed here what you intend to have them at and you just flipped them when listing them or did you flip the descriptions and therefore the values should be flipped as well?

**TNKNGM** · 03-22-2012, 01:22 AM

Re: TNK & ROYALE - 2012 Realism Sliders Thread

Originally posted by The Chef

Just gonna ask, in the sliders listed you have it as Steal Frequency listed above Steal Ability but in game they are opposite, are the values listed here what you intend to have them at and you just flipped them when listing them or did you flip the descriptions and therefore the values should be flipped as well?

Frequency should be 5 and Ability should be 4

**The Chef** · 03-22-2012, 02:25 AM

Re: TNK & ROYALE - 2012 Realism Sliders Thread

Originally posted by TNKNGM

Frequency should be 5 and Ability should be 4

Appreciate the help, my question looks like a jumbled mess so thankfully you were able to make heads or tails out of it. Having solid results so far with these having only moved hitting down to veteran. Lost last game 4-3 in 10 vs Pittsburgh, won 5-1 against Pittsburgh the game before that. My hitting has become a lot more consistent (.282 last game, .276 before that, .257 before that one) where as before I wasnt able to hit above .200 in a game as evidenced by the fact that even with these recent good outings my team batting average is still a putrid .208 lol.

**maddmattrix** · 03-22-2012, 03:20 AM

Re: TNK - 2012 Realism Sliders Thread

Lost a spring training game to Mariners 16-5. Yep, 16. I'm using pulse pitching which is a mess - the CPU never, ever chases pitches so you have to throw over the plate. Or you risk walking the entire lineup like I did. Such BS.

My very next game against the Cubs, they hit a very inside change up over the wall for a lead-off home run. Its like they can read my location

Also, the CPU is getting a ton of down-the-line doubles while seemingly being able to vacuum every down-the-line ball that I hit. Anyone else witnessing this?

**Carbon** · 03-22-2012, 03:35 AM

Re: TNK - 2012 Realism Sliders Thread

Just finished my first game with these sliders. As someone who's been tweaking with the sliders since I purchased the game, these are easily the best I've played used. I can't remember playing a game that feels this good.

Really nice job.

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"><link href="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/css/osdyn.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"><table class="osdyn" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="575"><tbody><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="13" align="center">Chicago White Sox at Kansas City Royals</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="40%">Mar 22, 2012</td><td width="5%" align="right">1</td><td width="5%" align="right">2</td><td width="5%" align="right">3</td><td width="5%" align="right">4</td><td width="5%" align="right">5</td><td width="5%" align="right">6</td><td width="5%" align="right">7</td><td width="5%" align="right">8</td><td width="5%" align="right">9</td><td width="5%" align="right">R</td><td width="5%" align="right">H</td><td width="5%" align="right">E</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Chicago (0-0)</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td class="active" align="right">1</td><td align="right">8</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Kansas City (0-0)</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">X</td><td class="active" align="right">6</td><td align="right">11</td><td align="right">2</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td colspan="13" align="center">W: Luke Hochevar L: Jake Peavy S: Greg Holland</td></tr></tbody></table><table class="osdyn spacer" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="575"><tbody><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="5">Scoring Summary</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="3" width="84%">SCORING DETAILS</td><td width="8%" align="right">CHW</td><td width="8%" align="right">KAN</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td width="7%" align="center">KAN</td><td width="7%" align="center">1</td><td width="70%">A Gordon homered to center</td><td width="8%" align="right">0</td><td width="8%" align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td width="7%" align="center">CHW</td><td width="7%" align="center">5</td><td width="70%">A De Aza bunts for a single, A Rios scores, G Beckham advanced to 2nd</td><td width="8%" align="right">1</td><td width="8%" align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td width="7%" align="center">KAN</td><td width="7%" align="center">5</td><td width="70%">L Cain lined to right for a single, S Perez scores</td><td width="8%" align="right">1</td><td width="8%" align="right">2</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td width="7%" align="center">KAN</td><td width="7%" align="center">6</td><td width="70%">E Hosmer doubled to center, A Gordon scores</td><td width="8%" align="right">1</td><td width="8%" align="right">3</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td width="7%" align="center">KAN</td><td width="7%" align="center">8</td><td width="70%">J Giavotella singles to left, A Escobar scores</td><td width="8%" align="right">1</td><td width="8%" align="right">4</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td width="7%" align="center">KAN</td><td width="7%" align="center">8</td><td width="70%">J Francoeur doubled to left, J Giavotella scores, E Hosmer scores</td><td width="8%" align="right">1</td><td width="8%" align="right">6</td></tr></tbody></table><table class="osdyn spacer" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="575"><tbody><tr class="masthead_alt"><td colspan="9" bgcolor="#231F20">Chicago White Sox</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="41%">HITTERS</td><td width="7%" align="right">AB</td><td width="7%" align="right">R</td><td width="7%" align="right">H</td><td width="7%" align="right">RBI</td><td width="7%" align="right">BB</td><td width="7%" align="right">SO</td><td width="7%" align="right">HR</td><td width="10%" align="right">AVG</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>A De Aza</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td class="active" align="right">.1000</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>A Ramirez</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td class="active" align="right">.333</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>P Konerko</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td class="active" align="right">.000</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>A Dunn</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td class="active" align="right">.250</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>D Viciedo</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td class="active" align="right">.000</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>A Pierzynski</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td class="active" align="right">.750</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td style="text-indent:20px;">O Martinz - PR</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td class="active" align="right">.000</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>A Rios</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td class="active" align="right">.000</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>B Morel</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td class="active" align="right">.000</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>G Beckham</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td class="active" align="right">.000</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td>TEAM TOTALS</td><td align="right">31</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">8</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">
</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td colspan="9">BATTING:
2B: A Dunn, A Pierzynski 2
RBI: A De Aza
GIDP: A Ramirez, P Konerko, G Beckham</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td colspan="9">BASERUNNING:
CS: A De Aza</td></tr></tbody></table><table class="osdyn spacer" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="575"><tbody><tr class="masthead_alt"><td colspan="9" bgcolor="#004A8D">Kansas City Royals</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="41%">HITTERS</td><td width="7%" align="right">AB</td><td width="7%" align="right">R</td><td width="7%" align="right">H</td><td width="7%" align="right">RBI</td><td width="7%" align="right">BB</td><td width="7%" align="right">SO</td><td width="7%" align="right">HR</td><td width="10%" align="right">AVG</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>A Gordon</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td class="active" align="right">.500</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>J Giavotella</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td class="active" align="right">.500</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>E Hosmer</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td class="active" align="right">.500</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>B Butler</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td class="active" align="right">.250</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>J Francoeur</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td class="active" align="right">.250</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>M Moustakas</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td class="active" align="right">.000</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>S Perez</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td class="active" align="right">.333</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>L Cain</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td class="active" align="right">.333</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>A Escobar</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td class="active" align="right">.333</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td>TEAM TOTALS</td><td align="right">33</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">11</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">
</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td colspan="9">BATTING:
2B: E Hosmer, J Francouer
HR: A Gordon
RBI: A Gordon, J Giavotella, E Hosmer, J Francouer 2, L Cain
GIDP: E Hosmer, A Escobar</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td colspan="9">FIELDING:
E: A Gordon, M Moustakas
PB: S Perez</td></tr></tbody></table><table class="osdyn spacer" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="575"><tbody><tr class="masthead_alt"><td colspan="9" bgcolor="#231F20">Chicago White Sox</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="41%">PITCHERS</td><td width="7%" align="right">IP</td><td width="7%" align="right">H</td><td width="7%" align="right">R</td><td width="7%" align="right">ER</td><td width="7%" align="right">BB</td><td width="7%" align="right">SO</td><td width="7%" align="right">HR</td><td width="10%" align="right">ERA</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>J Peavy</td><td align="right">6.0</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td class="active" align="right">4.50</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>W Ohman</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td class="active" align="right">0.00</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>J Crain</td><td align="right">0.2</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td class="active" align="right">40.50</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>D Axelrod</td><td align="right">0.1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td class="active" align="right">0.00</td></tr></tbody></table><table class="osdyn spacer" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="575"><tbody><tr class="masthead_alt"><td colspan="9" bgcolor="#004A8D">Kansas City Royals</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="41%">PITCHERS</td><td width="7%" align="right">IP</td><td width="7%" align="right">H</td><td width="7%" align="right">R</td><td width="7%" align="right">ER</td><td width="7%" align="right">BB</td><td width="7%" align="right">SO</td><td width="7%" align="right">HR</td><td width="10%" align="right">ERA</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>L Hochevar</td><td align="right">7.0</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td class="active" align="right">1.29</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>G Holland</td><td align="right">2.0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td class="active" align="right">0.00</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td>TEAM TOTALS</td><td align="right">9.0</td><td align="right">8</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1.00</td></tr></tbody></table>

**WeimaBrewer** · 03-22-2012, 09:29 AM

Re: TNK - 2012 Realism Sliders Thread

I almost gave up on this game with timing hitting. I switched to zone w/out moving the pci and have been making great contact. I have been working the count alot better this way. Averaging 2-3 walks per game and could be more if not for the curve ball. However, I live and die by the home run. I cant seem to manufacture runs at all.

Pulse pitching works but too good most of the time. I can paint whenever I want to. I might lower consistency 1 notch and go from there.

Great slider set TNK

**TNKNGM** · 03-22-2012, 09:53 AM

Re: TNK - 2012 Realism Sliders Thread

Originally posted by maddmattrix

Lost a spring training game to Mariners 16-5. Yep, 16. I'm using pulse pitching which is a mess - the CPU never, ever chases pitches so you have to throw over the plate. Or you risk walking the entire lineup like I did. Such BS.

My very next game against the Cubs, they hit a very inside change up over the wall for a lead-off home run. Its like they can read my location

Also, the CPU is getting a ton of down-the-line doubles while seemingly being able to vacuum every down-the-line ball that I hit. Anyone else witnessing this?

The CPU certainly does chase bad pitches........you NEED to be better at pitching, setting hitters up, changing speeds, hitting your spots and moving the ball around

**The Kid 24** · 03-22-2012, 10:22 AM

Re: TNK - 2012 Realism Sliders Thread

Originally posted by FenwayMac

POST OF THE YEAR!!!

TNK is trying to have us do the same thing,but I just happened to use this one instead due to some easy point of references.

It took about four innings to get used to but man can I square up so much better now. PCI is virtually always mostly squared up and I am seeing results. 17 hits and 11 runs in an 11-3 romp over Miami.

I combine this view with technique I used last year, which is to have the PCI on, and then frame the pitcher with it at release and follow it in the zone. Helps a ton and you can do much easier determine when not to swing.

Fenway... I agree with you!!

I used these instructions for the camera but I left the camera dead center so the plate is in the middle of my screen.... And I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT!!! My offense is much better with this view!

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