Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Sliders

[canes21]

Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

I have no idea how you can play default All Star batting with directional. Even if I boost contact, power, and solid hits up to 6 or 7 it's just ground ball city with random popups on fastballs down the middle with good timing. If I leave everything at 5 I'd be lucky to see anything that would possibly be more than a single.

[Armor and Sword]

Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

I have no idea how you can play default All Star batting with directional. Even if I boost contact, power, and solid hits up to 6 or 7 it's just ground ball city with random popups on fastballs down the middle with good timing. If I leave everything at 5 I'd be lucky to see anything that would possibly be more than a single.

Well obviously you see my OP settings.

I hit fine on All-Star and get amazing variety.

It all is based on your individual skill level and approach at the plate.


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[MDgolf]

Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

Are you leading the league in home runs with your Yankees?


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[forme95]

Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

I have no idea how you can play default All Star batting with directional. Even if I boost contact, power, and solid hits up to 6 or 7 it's just ground ball city with random popups on fastballs down the middle with good timing. If I leave everything at 5 I'd be lucky to see anything that would possibly be more than a single.

I'm not sure how you are playing, but if you go watch Armors stream, you will see that is not the case. Just for instance, his last steam he had a total of 24 hits I believe. He personally had 11 or 13 I believe.

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[canes21]

Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

I'm not sure how you are playing, but if you go watch Armors stream, you will see that is not the case. Just for instance, his last steam he had a total of 24 hits I believe. He personally had 11 or 13 I believe.

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I can see plenty of hits. But with default 5's its grounders that find a hole or liners up the middle or just out of reach. Nothing will ever find its way even close to the wall.

[forme95]

Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

I can see plenty of hits. But with default 5's its grounders that find a hole or liners up the middle or just out of reach. Nothing will ever find its way even close to the wall.

Watch his streams. Watch his past streams. I can assure you, you will see a great variety of hits from off the wall, bloop in's, gap shots, diving misses (as well as great diving catches), plenty of xbh's.

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[canes21]

Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

Watch his streams. Watch his past streams. I can assure you, you will see a great variety of hits from off the wall, bloop in's, gap shots, diving misses (as well as great diving catches), plenty of xbh's.

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I'm not saying you or him are wrong or that they are bad sliders. They are what I use as a base to make the adjustments I need. I was just saying that I must be lacking something because I get 3-4 runs on 16 hits with these sliders because all I can muster up is singles. For me, at 5 for HUM contact, power, solid hits I don't see that variety. Right now I am trying to find the combination where I do while keeping it balanced.

[forme95]

Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

I'm not saying you or him are wrong or that they are bad sliders. They are what I use as a base to make the adjustments I need. I was just saying that I must be lacking something because I get 3-4 runs on 16 hits with these sliders because all I can muster up is singles. For me, at 5 for HUM contact, power, solid hits I don't see that variety. Right now I am trying to find the combination where I do while keeping it balanced.

Do you use the left stick and or square X and circle when hitting? I've been studying the Directional hitting post like I am cramming for a exam lol to try to get better. A lot of what I do is just the buttons and am trying to implement left stick input to it now too. My hitting is improving a lot just from that. I realized just hitting X and hoping wasn't going to do it lol.

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[JHedges2]

Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

Right now I am trying to find the combination where I do while keeping it balanced.

Curious as to what you're using? I've been seeing LOTS of singles too--exactly as you described.

[No.27]

Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

Do you use the left stick and or square X and circle when hitting? I've been studying the Directional hitting post like I am cramming for a exam lol to try to get better. A lot of what I do is just the buttons and am trying to implement left stick input to it now too. My hitting is improving a lot just from that. I realized just hitting X and hoping wasn't going to do it lol.

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Good to see you still at it and improving! Well done. That Directional hitting post is gold. Keep cramming

[canes21]

Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

Do you use the left stick and or square X and circle when hitting? I've been studying the Directional hitting post like I am cramming for a exam lol to try to get better. A lot of what I do is just the buttons and am trying to implement left stick input to it now too. My hitting is improving a lot just from that. I realized just hitting X and hoping wasn't going to do it lol.

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I hardly ever power swing, but I do contact swing quite a bit. Yes, I do use the left stick a lot. That thread was a huge help and has increased my average with some players, but I still mostly see singles.

Curious as to what you're using? I've been seeing LOTS of singles too--exactly as you described.

I think I've gone all the way up to 6 or 7 contact with 8 power and solid hits. I went high just to see if it took me to the other end of the spectrum. Last game was @ Miami so it wasn't a great stadium to see any HRs, but I did collect a good amount of extra base hits finally.

[Armor and Sword]

Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

I'm not saying you or him are wrong or that they are bad sliders. They are what I use as a base to make the adjustments I need. I was just saying that I must be lacking something because I get 3-4 runs on 16 hits with these sliders because all I can muster up is singles. For me, at 5 for HUM contact, power, solid hits I don't see that variety. Right now I am trying to find the combination where I do while keeping it balanced.

It is certainly not the sliders. I can pretty much assure you of that. I am hitting default All-Star.

With a tweak to CPU control and strike frequency (just reduced by 1 each).....that’s it!

And fielder speed is for the OF play which gives a nice tweak for hit variety (and fielder ratings meaning more) and reaction is also for infield (same principal as OF).

It is purely what you are doing or not doing at the plate.

Pitch selection, what counts you are working, what swing type in what count, using your left stick with dead pull or push hitters and sitting on pitches that will be conducive to their hitting spray chart in combination with a normal swing and the left stick influence.

Seriously...there is so much going on. It is not as simple as hitting X and hoping. If you are behind in the count your less likely to get a hit. If your ahead in the count you are far more likely....if you groove a pitch in your wheelhouse.

But the sliders really have nothing to do with what you are seeing obviously. Because I am using them and hitting the ball all over the park with the best hit variety I have ever seen on a console baseball game.

You gotta work on your game. And it takes baseball IQ to be consistently successful with these two interfaces (Directional/Classic) because it gives a lot of weight to player ratings, counts, pitches your hitting vs placing the PCI in the right spot and hitting the meter or pulse.

Totally different approach to playing this game....and for simulation heads....nothing better.

Good luck man.....hope you can improve your hitting without having to jack up the hitting sliders.....but if you are still seeing the same stuff with increases to contact, power and timing.....you gotta take a look at how your playing and approaching your AB’s.

[Armor and Sword]

Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

Streaming a 1996 Yankees Season Replay game right now.

[canes21]

Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

I imagine two of the tweaks that I made to the set also have a decent impact on my results. I play with the pitch speeds maxed out and timing down at 2 or maybe 3 now. I could always increase timing up to 5, but if it is like last year at default the timing window was just too big for my taste. I like having a very small window because baseball is all about timing and I want it to reflect that and it does pretty well with how I have it set up. The downside is that the timing slider seems affect hitting more than it should which is why I think I have to boost my contact and power up 1 to get a better variety.

As for pitch speed, I wish this game didn't scale it up with the difficulty level. I wish 10 on the easiest setting was the same speed as 10 on the hardest setting. I still feel All Star 10 speed is way too slow, but I don't feel like moving up to whatever level is next to get a higher speed because then I will have to rework all hitting and CPU pitching sliders.

[TheWarmWind]

Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

I hardly ever power swing, but I do contact swing quite a bit. Yes, I do use the left stick a lot. That thread was a huge help and has increased my average with some players, but I still mostly see singles.

If you're still struggling to get extra base hits, the best thing to do strategy wise is to favour pull a little more when ahead and favour the downward influence a little more when behind.

Remember even push hitters gain some benefit from a pull swing. Sure it's less of a benefit, but it's still there.

As far as sliders are concerned, I'll leave that to the venerable Armor & Sword. He is far more of an expert than I. Just popped in hoping to lend a helping hand.