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  • JoshC1977
    All Star
    • Dec 2010
    • 11564

    #286
    Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

    Originally posted by Friar Fanatic
    Cool. Then I just have to say I think others need to give it a much bigger sample size before asking you to change.

    If you remember, I was having extremely high K/9s and low BB/9s but over the course of 3/4 of a season they evened out to numbers similar to their career mumbers.

    Im not saying to not adjust your sliders, but rather people need to give it more than 60 games in my opinion. Thats all I will say, but I am loving the OG sliders for pitching. Maybe I will practice hitting amd give it a shot next year lol.

    Thanks again, keep up the hard work!
    I agree that many folks don't understand what a decent sample size really is (cough....80-100 games....cough).

    But...the flip side of that is when you've put tons and tons of hours into the series, you can generally tell when something is a bit 'off' relatively quickly. Just the sound off the bat can be a clue that something is not quite right (which is the case right now).

    Obviously, I don't think anyone has 80-100 games of sample size right now. So, we're being forced to rely on the ole 'eye test'...and many times, that leads us astray. To be blunt, I do believe that's the case here...but we need people pulling together in the same direction (and frankly, all the back and forth has impinged my ability to settle-in as well).
    Play the games you love, not the games you want to love.

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    • Sportsfan28
      Banned
      • Sep 2020
      • 365

      #287
      Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

      Yeah. I’m keeping solid hits at 4. I have zero complaints with those last slider sets. If you come back down the road saying solid hits at 5 is a must, then I might consider it. But right now I’m having different varieties in each game and sticking to it.


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      • TopSide83
        MVP
        • Sep 2016
        • 1400

        #288
        Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

        Sorry but I’ve been playing the show way too long to need 80-100 games to know something is wrong with a slider or overall feels to the games. 20 games max for me but to each their own.

        Solid hits at 5 is not going to work.

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        • Detroit Tigers
          MVP
          • Mar 2018
          • 1375

          #289
          Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

          For the record I moved to HOF pitching after three seasons on AS. Literally 486 games. Nothing small about my sample size moving there. My sample size is minuscule on HOF itself but the decision to move there was literally a three-year carryover save for my sample size. Just to be clear on that. Also I never claim to speak for anyone but myself itt. Cheers.
          Just one man’s opinion.
          I don’t actually care about any of this.

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          • Rmiok222
            MVP
            • Nov 2015
            • 3129

            #290
            Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

            Originally posted by Detroit Tigers
            For the record I moved to HOF pitching after three seasons on AS. Literally 486 games. Nothing small about my sample size moving there. My sample size is minuscule on HOF itself but the decision to move there was literally a three-year carryover save for my sample size. Just to be clear on that. Also I never claim to speak for anyone but myself itt. Cheers.


            There’s no way you can compare this years game to last though. It’s very different.


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            • JoshC1977
              All Star
              • Dec 2010
              • 11564

              #291
              Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

              I give up........

              I literally said THIS:

              Originally posted by JoshC1977
              ..the flip side of that is when you've put tons and tons of hours into the series, you can generally tell when something is a bit 'off' relatively quickly. Just the sound off the bat can be a clue that something is not quite right (which is the case right now).
              And this is straight out of the OP:

              3. Use of All Star difficulty. I personally believe that All Star provides for the widest range of ratings to be properly represented, but is often JUST a hair on the easy side for me because the AI isn't quite as sharp. We have two options, dumb-down HOF or make AS "smarter". For me, if I can make the middle difficulty smarter without massively boosting the CPU, I will always go that route.

              Let me translate...we're not moving to HOF.
              Last edited by JoshC1977; 05-04-2021, 04:00 PM.
              Play the games you love, not the games you want to love.

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              • Sportsfan28
                Banned
                • Sep 2020
                • 365

                #292
                Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

                Originally posted by Detroit Tigers
                For the record I moved to HOF pitching after three seasons on AS. Literally 486 games. Nothing small about my sample size moving there. My sample size is minuscule on HOF itself but the decision to move there was literally a three-year carryover save for my sample size. Just to be clear on that. Also I never claim to speak for anyone but myself itt. Cheers.


                Make your own sliders then...?


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                • JoshC1977
                  All Star
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 11564

                  #293
                  Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

                  Originally posted by TopSide83
                  Solid hits at 5 is not going to work.
                  Enlighten us...please.
                  Play the games you love, not the games you want to love.

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                  • TopSide83
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 1400

                    #294
                    Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

                    Originally posted by JoshC1977
                    Enlighten us...please.
                    The cpu loses patience when you put that slider back to default. They no longer wait for a good pitch to swing at and more often than not swing at the first strike in the zone. Just my two cents.

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                    • JoshC1977
                      All Star
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 11564

                      #295
                      Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

                      Originally posted by TopSide83
                      The cpu loses patience when you put that slider back to default. They no longer wait for a good pitch to swing at and more often than not swing at the first strike in the zone. Just my two cents.
                      Thank you! That's a terrific answer and the type of thing I'd look for! I will definitely make note of that as I test it out.

                      I'm also going to say this (and this is not directed at you TopSide). This is honestly the last thing I'm going to look at slider-wise unless a patch necessitates it. SH will either be 4 or 5 and then we're off and running.

                      Sorry, but I'm putting SH back as "TBD" for the next day or so. That's a valid enough potential concern (and one that can be assessed relatively quickly).
                      Play the games you love, not the games you want to love.

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                      • TopSide83
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2016
                        • 1400

                        #296
                        Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

                        Originally posted by JoshC1977
                        Thank you! That's a terrific answer and the type of thing I'd look for! I will definitely make note of that as I test it out.

                        I'm also going to say this (and this is not directed at you TopSide). This is honestly the last thing I'm going to look at slider-wise unless a patch necessitates it. SH will either be 4 or 5 and then we're off and running.

                        Sorry, but I'm putting SH back as "TBD" for the next day or so. That's a valid enough potential concern (and one that can be assessed relatively quickly).
                        No problem bro, just trying to help out the best I can. I’ve been playing tons of franchise test games with this set

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                        • JoshC1977
                          All Star
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 11564

                          #297
                          Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

                          Originally posted by TopSide83
                          No problem bro, just trying to help out the best I can. I’ve been playing tons of franchise test games with this set
                          I know you are....the problem with "test games" (and I run into this too) is that you never get deep enough to get a true feel for how things play out over the long haul with one team. It's really why I just want to pick SOMETHING and roll with it for a very long time.
                          Play the games you love, not the games you want to love.

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                          • Friar Fanatic
                            Rookie
                            • May 2012
                            • 471

                            #298
                            Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

                            Originally posted by JoshC1977
                            I know you are....the problem with "test games" (and I run into this too) is that you never get deep enough to get a true feel for how things play out over the long haul with one team. It's really why I just want to pick SOMETHING and roll with it for a very long time.
                            I agree on this. Im at the end of August (doing pitching only and quick simmimg the batting) and test games dont measure how a tired and injured bullpen works, or spot starters, or bad defense due to injuries. All of which have completely changed for me as the year went on.

                            Plenty of times my SP gets rocked or at least throws a lot of pitches and only lasts 4 or 5 IP, then my bullpen has to cover the rest of the game. This completely changes how effective they are the rest of the series as they come into the game tired now. Or maybe I cant use Pomeranz because hes so gassed, so I have to use a less tham optimal RP who gets smoked. None of which can be gauged in test games

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                            • shane_790132
                              Rookie
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 71

                              #299
                              Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

                              I'm setting up Allstar+ and will be jumping into a franchise tonight running exactly how the first post is set up. Will be along for the ride with yall.

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                              • TopSide83
                                MVP
                                • Sep 2016
                                • 1400

                                #300
                                Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

                                Originally posted by JoshC1977
                                I know you are....the problem with "test games" (and I run into this too) is that you never get deep enough to get a true feel for how things play out over the long haul with one team. It's really why I just want to pick SOMETHING and roll with it for a very long time.
                                It’s more of a test franchise with the Royals that I’m 25 games into with the OP sliders and the changes you’ve made along the way.

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