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  • bryanm1982
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    • Nov 2016
    • 3786

    #406
    Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

    Originally posted by JoshC1977
    Tried that with KC...I HATE playing AL baseball. I'm not one of those "the DH rule should be abolished in real life" guys but I lose interest when playing with the rule on in-game. I know I can turn it off globally; but that bugs me too.



    The Mariners are SO boring to me though. It's just a rebuild. Like, there aren't any decisions to be made other than waiting for prospects to mature. So it is slogging through two seasons of baseball before the storylines really begin to take off.

    I'd much prefer a middle-of-the-pack team where I have to make meaningful decisions in year 1.
    What about the Cubs?
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    • Teleo
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      • Nov 2013
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      #407
      Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

      I hear you Josh about the Reds franchise - I haven’t made a permanent decision on who I am rolling with either.

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      • bryanm1982
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        • Nov 2016
        • 3786

        #408
        Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

        What is wrong with the Reds roster? What am I missing? Lol
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        • Rmiok222
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          • Nov 2015
          • 3129

          #409
          Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

          Originally posted by bryanm1982
          What is wrong with the Reds roster? What am I missing? Lol


          Not to speak for josh but my problem with the reds roster is everybody is like 28-30 years old and not worth keeping, aside from a couple.


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          • Rmiok222
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            • Nov 2015
            • 3129

            #410
            Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

            Well josh. Judging from what you’ve said (no DH, not a rebuild) I think you have 4-5 teams to pick from

            Cardinals, Phillies, brewers, nationals, Cubs


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            • JoshC1977
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              • Dec 2010
              • 11564

              #411
              Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

              Originally posted by bryanm1982
              What is wrong with the Reds roster? What am I missing? Lol
              A very weak defensive team; very poor contact team overall; mediocre team speed. The team's biggest weakness is up the middle, which is precisely where I start in building my squad. Don't get me wrong, they ARE strong enough to contend; but they really irk me how they go about doing it.

              And I totally 'get' that the whole point of franchise mode is to build a team to your liking. But the way the current roster is built; I'm not sure a single player in the nominal starting 8 would survive my re-tooling process if I were to proceed.
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              • Armor and Sword
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                • Sep 2010
                • 21793

                #412
                Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

                Originally posted by JoshC1977
                Tried that with KC...I HATE playing AL baseball. I'm not one of those "the DH rule should be abolished in real life" guys but I lose interest when playing with the rule on in-game. I know I can turn it off globally; but that bugs me too.







                The Mariners are SO boring to me though. It's just a rebuild. Like, there aren't any decisions to be made other than waiting for prospects to mature. So it is slogging through two seasons of baseball before the storylines really begin to take off.



                I'd much prefer a middle-of-the-pack team where I have to make meaningful decisions in year 1.


                I think The Cubs would be exactly what you are looking for.

                Big decisions to be made on Kris Bryant and Anthony Rizzo. Pitching staff will need to be worked on. But there are pieces that can keep you in contention or....you can trade away a fee pieces to a contender and go into full rebuild mode.

                A team that is at a crossroads, great park to play in, great parks to go on road trips and play in.

                Cubs are your team Josh.


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                • JoshC1977
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                  • Dec 2010
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                  #413
                  Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

                  Originally posted by Rmiok222
                  Well josh. Judging from what you’ve said (no DH, not a rebuild) I think you have 4-5 teams to pick from

                  Cardinals, Phillies, brewers, nationals, Cubs
                  I'd actually throw the Giants and Marlins on that list as well (and possibly the Rockies - though they ARE close to "blow it up").

                  The Giants are kind of a fading team age-wise; so the key decision point is going to be dictated by how they perform. IRL, they are currently in first place. That keeps up; then do you accent the current roster (potentially giving up a future piece) OR do you just roll with what you have (knowing a future demise is still in the cards)? If you start slow out of the gates, you begin making tough choices on potentially unloading some guys. (I also adore the fact you have to leapfrog the Pads/Dodgers in that division as well)

                  The Marlins are in the middle of a rebuild (obviously), but they're entering an interesting stage. They have some good veteran pieces to go with the youngsters. They can 100% make a run for a WC berth in year 1 and they can 100% collapse. Those outcomes will drive the decision-making.

                  Compare that to the Mariners. They're just bad; have virtually nothing of value in the major leagues (sorry...not a Lewis fan) and the minor leaguers (Kelenic, J-Rod) are at least two years away. It's basically just a "grind 324 with a bad team" and then the "fun" begins.
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                  • JoshC1977
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                    • Dec 2010
                    • 11564

                    #414
                    Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

                    Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                    I think The Cubs would be exactly what you are looking for.

                    Big decisions to be made on Kris Bryant and Anthony Rizzo. Pitching staff will need to be worked on. But there are pieces that can keep you in contention or....you can trade away a fee pieces to a contender and go into full rebuild mode.

                    A team that is at a crossroads, great park to play in, great parks to go on road trips and play in.

                    Cubs are your team Josh.
                    The fact I'm remotely considering this makes me feel a little dirty (but so did using the Braves in my fictional chise last year).
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                    • Rmiok222
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                      • Nov 2015
                      • 3129

                      #415
                      Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

                      Originally posted by JoshC1977
                      The fact I'm remotely considering this makes me feel a little dirty (but so did using the Braves in my fictional chise last year).


                      I know they’re doing good now, really good actually..but I wanted to do a Red Sox rebuild after their struggle last year. Gotta get past the surging blue jays, the yanks and the rays who have a top farm system. That would of been fun


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                      • JHedges2
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                        • Jan 2007
                        • 4651

                        #416
                        Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

                        Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                        I think The Cubs would be exactly what you are looking for.

                        Big decisions to be made on Kris Bryant and Anthony Rizzo. Pitching staff will need to be worked on. But there are pieces that can keep you in contention or....you can trade away a fee pieces to a contender and go into full rebuild mode.

                        A team that is at a crossroads, great park to play in, great parks to go on road trips and play in.

                        Cubs are your team Josh.


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                        Ah, the voice of reason--lol.

                        Fair points made here. Plus, love those home uni's and of course Wrigley.

                        But being a Reds fan, I can see why this would not be ideal LOL.

                        I like the idea of the Rockies. Great ballpark and uniforms. Tough division to play in, but I've always had a soft spot for them. I also think they have quite a bit of money to spend..
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                        • JoshC1977
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                          • Dec 2010
                          • 11564

                          #417
                          Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

                          I've basically narrowed things down to 4 teams (in no particular order) with the following top plus and minus to their candidacy:

                          Cubs
                          + intriguing roster situation with several key players up for free agency
                          + a slew of "fun" role players (I love Marisnick and Heyward)
                          - Boring uniforms with minimal combos (I know...I know...but it's how I feel)
                          - relatively weak division

                          Brewers
                          + Terrific uniform combos and lots of varying retros
                          + Shallow, older roster that can accommodate building on the fly
                          - Weak division

                          Giants
                          + Effective, but not flashy roster.
                          + Plays in a VERY tough division
                          - too much of a 'blank slate'? Team lacks some personality

                          Rockies
                          + Fairly interesting team build with a key decision point upcoming (Story's deal)
                          + Very tough division as they're probably the bottom-feeder long-term
                          - Do I really want to play 81 games in that ballpark?
                          - Do I really want to play 81 games in that ballpark? (yes, I purposely typed that twice, lol)
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                          • bravesfan1984
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                            • Mar 2008
                            • 2808

                            #418
                            Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

                            Originally posted by JoshC1977
                            I've basically narrowed things down to 4 teams (in no particular order) with the following top plus and minus to their candidacy:

                            Cubs
                            + intriguing roster situation with several key players up for free agency
                            + a slew of "fun" role players (I love Marisnick and Heyward)
                            - Boring uniforms with minimal combos (I know...I know...but it's how I feel)
                            - relatively weak division

                            Brewers
                            + Terrific uniform combos and lots of varying retros
                            + Shallow, older roster that can accommodate building on the fly
                            - Weak division

                            Giants
                            + Effective, but not flashy roster.
                            + Plays in a VERY tough division
                            - too much of a 'blank slate'? Team lacks some personality

                            Rockies
                            + Fairly interesting team build with a key decision point upcoming (Story's deal)
                            + Very tough division as they're probably the bottom-feeder long-term
                            - Do I really want to play 81 games in that ballpark?
                            - Do I really want to play 81 games in that ballpark? (yes, I purposely typed that twice, lol)

                            My vote would be the Giants/Rockies. Reason being, I like the challenge of a tough division. Essentially you can't take any days off mentally. I'd go Giants just for the stadium and I do like their jerseys.
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                            • ILLICIT206
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                              • Jan 2011
                              • 252

                              #419
                              Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

                              Originally posted by JoshC1977
                              Compare that to the Mariners. They're just bad; have virtually nothing of value in the major leagues (sorry...not a Lewis fan) and the minor leaguers (Kelenic, J-Rod) are at least two years away. It's basically just a "grind 324 with a bad team" and then the "fun" begins.
                              As a Mariners fan, I'm biased, but I do agree they're bad. BUT...for franchise purposes I actually think they're pretty fun. Kelenic is coming up this week so he's not two years out, and Logan Gilbert will be up soon thereafter. Dipoto has also said JRod may debut later this year.

                              Whether you're sold on KLew or not, he's good in the game and fun to play with, and we do have some decent pieces. There's a decision to make on Haniger...do you extend him and keep him as a veteran presence, or trade for prospects at the deadline? Ty France is a very good young hitter, who can be 2B or DH moving forward. And in game, Evan White is pretty good even though he can't hit for **** IRL. That's just offense, pitching-wise there are a few decent arms and Marco is fun to pitch with (Jamie Moyer 2.0).

                              Now....are you going to win this year? Not if you're going for realism, but there are some decisions to make and some fun to be had.

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                              • JHedges2
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                                • Jan 2007
                                • 4651

                                #420
                                Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 21 Sliders

                                Brewers stadium and uniforms = ew for me.

                                Giants and Rockies both have lots of money I believe. Giants have some good older players that could be dealt at the DL if you’re (likely not) contending.


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