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  • HealthyScratch
    Rookie
    • Jul 2015
    • 268

    #376
    Re: S & B's MLB 2025 Simulation Sliders

    Solid results from my game with CPU pitching at 4/4. I was consistently able to work some deep counts and wait for mistakes, but it didn’t feel like their pitching was skewed in any way. Everything felt legit.


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    • DarthRambo
      MVP
      • Mar 2008
      • 6630

      #377
      Re: S & B's MLB 2025 Simulation Sliders

      Originally posted by HealthyScratch
      Solid results from my game with CPU pitching at 4/4. I was consistently able to work some deep counts and wait for mistakes, but it didn’t feel like their pitching was skewed in any way. Everything felt legit.


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      We have always been quick counts only users until this year so it's honestly the first time we've played this game enough without QC to realize the cpu just pounds strike after strike. Don't get me wrong, they'll still get you to 0-2 without swinging the bat a good amount, but I have more four pitch walks than I ever have no doubt. And the good thing is you're not going to see an increase of HBP or wild pitches either. They'll still occasionally get that 0-2 count and HBP just the same amount as before.

      What got us to lower it was when we've been looking at pitch counts for SP when they get tired being pretty low. So Brian looked up their average pitch count per start over 2024 and career to edit their stamina attribute to match. In the game you can always count on reaching yellow stamina around 7-10 pitches lower than stamina rating, depending on stress pitches made etc.

      Once we started getting SP to reach a normal pitch count between 85-95 it was quick to realize they're strike percentage was sky high. That made it too easy to keep their pitch counts low throughout the game unless you got some hits early, since walks were nearly out of the question. Since then I myself (not sure if Brian has yet) decided to edit all SP to 90 stamina, feeling that it's fair to say every SP on the MLB real life can easily go 80-100 pitches if they're rolling with not too many jams. So after editing there we wanted to get strike percentage lowered since all SP can now go 7-8ip if you're not getting to them at all or working counts up. That's created IMO a very realistic game of baseball on the field. I'm now forcing myself to take more strikes, knowing with lowered control and consistency they will throw balls as well more frequently.

      I'm already 28 games into playing every pitch with the Reds. It's been a beautiful game of baseball to play over the last 10-12 games I've played using what now is version 2. Idk why I felt the need to explain all of that, but there you go! Lol

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      • PhlliesPhan6
        MVP
        • Feb 2009
        • 1476

        #378
        Re: S & B's MLB 2025 Simulation Sliders

        All of a sudden it seems like I'm striking out a ton. It seems like I have a lot of pitches in the strike zone where my timing is "Good" on the feedback but my batters are swinging through.

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        • bryanm1982
          MVP
          • Nov 2016
          • 3782

          #379
          Re: S & B's MLB 2025 Simulation Sliders

          Originally posted by PhlliesPhan6
          All of a sudden it seems like I'm striking out a ton. It seems like I have a lot of pitches in the strike zone where my timing is "Good" on the feedback but my batters are swinging through.
          Increase your contact by one and see if that helps. I’m in the same boat but I’m thinking it’s just a cold stretch.
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          • dragster646
            Rookie
            • Mar 2012
            • 412

            #380
            Re: S & B's MLB 2025 Simulation Sliders

            Originally posted by bryanm1982
            And that works cause now you get the accurate game times since you started over.

            True…now I need to figure out what to do about the Vladdy Jr. contract [emoji1787]


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            • jcar0725
              "ADAPT OR DIE"
              • Aug 2010
              • 3818

              #381
              Re: S & B's MLB 2025 Simulation Sliders

              Originally posted by bryanm1982
              Increase your contact by one and see if that helps. I’m in the same boat but I’m thinking it’s just a cold stretch.
              I bet it's a cold stretch. My offense is anemic and I just put up 6 runs. Contact at 5.
              JUUUUUUUST A BIT OUTSIDE

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              • DarthRambo
                MVP
                • Mar 2008
                • 6630

                #382
                Re: S & B's MLB 2025 Simulation Sliders

                Originally posted by PhlliesPhan6
                All of a sudden it seems like I'm striking out a ton. It seems like I have a lot of pitches in the strike zone where my timing is "Good" on the feedback but my batters are swinging through.
                Good timing and whiffs are probably either the batter has a lowish contact rating, therefore his PCI is small. A cold stretch coming or current. Or a combination of both. Since we use timing hitting the PCI is invisible so when we swing we have no clue where the PCI is relative to the baseball. If it's a ball right down the middle and you swing good timing with a 45 contact rating; his PCI is not going to be big at all, and could easily be right above the ball for a swing and miss.

                Yearssss ago the game showed your PCI on the swing feedback even when using timing. I loved that because you could then visibily see a cold and a hot streak happening real time with evidence. Not sure why they removed that but wish they'd put it back in the game.

                And like jcar, contact at 5 I won a 9-6 game with 11 hits to their 13. It was in Colorado mind you, but that's a Coors Field type of score.
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                • Kramer5150
                  Medicore Mike
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 7389

                  #383
                  Re: S & B's MLB 2025 Simulation Sliders

                  Plugged in the newest updates, and played a quick game against the Cubs in L.A, and I'm not touching a damn thing...lmao

                  I ended up losing a tough one 3-2, Sasaki was pitching and while solid overall, the dagger hit in the 6th in the form of a solo shot that gave the Cubs a 3-2 lead, and that turned out to be all the Cubs would need.

                  My 2 runs came off a 2-run shot from Will Smith with Hernandez on base, this is probably the best The Show has felt to me in quite some time, I started to get a little to comfortable with Sasaki and got careless and gave up the solo shot.

                  There was absolutely nothing that felt "cheap" or anything of the sort, I do think the biggest positive with these new updates, is lowering the CPU Pitching control and consistency to 4, this change alone opened up the game for myself, as pitches that were routinely called strikes at default, were now much more balanced between balls and strikes, I have been using these settings on the HUM side (4/4) as I use meter pitching, and been having a blast.

                  Now...if I can tear myself away from AC: Shadows (great game IMO) I may be able to get rolling here with finally starting my franchise...

                  Great Job on this update, and as I have mentioned I'm not touching anything else...
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                  • PhlliesPhan6
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 1476

                    #384
                    Re: S & B's MLB 2025 Simulation Sliders

                    Originally posted by DarthRambo
                    Good timing and whiffs are probably either the batter has a lowish contact rating, therefore his PCI is small. A cold stretch coming or current. Or a combination of both. Since we use timing hitting the PCI is invisible so when we swing we have no clue where the PCI is relative to the baseball. If it's a ball right down the middle and you swing good timing with a 45 contact rating; his PCI is not going to be big at all, and could easily be right above the ball for a swing and miss.

                    Yearssss ago the game showed your PCI on the swing feedback even when using timing. I loved that because you could then visibily see a cold and a hot streak happening real time with evidence. Not sure why they removed that but wish they'd put it back in the game.

                    And like jcar, contact at 5 I won a 9-6 game with 11 hits to their 13. It was in Colorado mind you, but that's a Coors Field type of score.
                    Most of the time it's breaking ball that break towards the center of the strike zone. I've probably averaged about 13 strikeouts as a team over the last 4 or 5 games I've played.

                    The swing feedback seems a little wonky this year. Sometimes it will say "Good" and it looks like I'm very late. Sometimes it will say "Very Late" and it looks good on the graphic.

                    If it makes any difference, I'm using directional hitting and trying to influence the ball. Mostly trying to Pull with Pull Hitters. But I usually try to push the ball when I get to 2 strikes in the count.

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                    • bryanm1982
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2016
                      • 3782

                      #385
                      Re: S & B's MLB 2025 Simulation Sliders

                      Originally posted by PhlliesPhan6
                      Most of the time it's breaking ball that break towards the center of the strike zone. I've probably averaged about 13 strikeouts as a team over the last 4 or 5 games I've played.

                      The swing feedback seems a little wonky this year. Sometimes it will say "Good" and it looks like I'm very late. Sometimes it will say "Very Late" and it looks good on the graphic.

                      If it makes any difference, I'm using directional hitting and trying to influence the ball. Mostly trying to Pull with Pull Hitters. But I usually try to push the ball when I get to 2 strikes in the count.
                      I did notice that it seems off. I was like man I'm late on it and it says good timing. That new sweeper pitch has me fooled most of the time. If you feel like you are on that pitch with good timing, you can raise contact. If you feel like you are off timing, you can raise timing by 1.

                      I'm currently in a funk offensively and I'm trying my hardest not to raise anything to give myself an advantage. Like last night, I got so frustrated I raised my timing by one and then hit 3 HR to win the game in the 9th. So that felt cheated to me.
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                      • bryanm1982
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2016
                        • 3782

                        #386
                        Re: S & B's MLB 2025 Simulation Sliders

                        Originally posted by Kramer5150
                        Plugged in the newest updates, and played a quick game against the Cubs in L.A, and I'm not touching a damn thing...lmao

                        I ended up losing a tough one 3-2, Sasaki was pitching and while solid overall, the dagger hit in the 6th in the form of a solo shot that gave the Cubs a 3-2 lead, and that turned out to be all the Cubs would need.

                        My 2 runs came off a 2-run shot from Will Smith with Hernandez on base, this is probably the best The Show has felt to me in quite some time, I started to get a little to comfortable with Sasaki and got careless and gave up the solo shot.

                        There was absolutely nothing that felt "cheap" or anything of the sort, I do think the biggest positive with these new updates, is lowering the CPU Pitching control and consistency to 4, this change alone opened up the game for myself, as pitches that were routinely called strikes at default, were now much more balanced between balls and strikes, I have been using these settings on the HUM side (4/4) as I use meter pitching, and been having a blast.

                        Now...if I can tear myself away from AC: Shadows (great game IMO) I may be able to get rolling here with finally starting my franchise...

                        Great Job on this update, and as I have mentioned I'm not touching anything else...
                        You'll have to let me know how you do with James Outman. I am trying my hardest to give him a shot to be the full time CF.

                        Conforto is struggling only hitting .172. Edman is struggling with his .222 average.

                        Will smith can't catch anything to his right and allows so many damn wild pitches.
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                        • jcar0725
                          "ADAPT OR DIE"
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 3818

                          #387
                          Re: S & B's MLB 2025 Simulation Sliders

                          Originally posted by bryanm1982
                          I did notice that it seems off. I was like man I'm late on it and it says good timing. That new sweeper pitch has me fooled most of the time. If you feel like you are on that pitch with good timing, you can raise contact. If you feel like you are off timing, you can raise timing by 1.

                          I'm currently in a funk offensively and I'm trying my hardest not to raise anything to give myself an advantage. Like last night, I got so frustrated I raised my timing by one and then hit 3 HR to win the game in the 9th. So that felt cheated to me.
                          RESIST THE TEMPTATION!!!
                          JUUUUUUUST A BIT OUTSIDE

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                          • DarthRambo
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 6630

                            #388
                            Re: S & B's MLB 2025 Simulation Sliders

                            Originally posted by PhlliesPhan6
                            Most of the time it's breaking ball that break towards the center of the strike zone. I've probably averaged about 13 strikeouts as a team over the last 4 or 5 games I've played.



                            The swing feedback seems a little wonky this year. Sometimes it will say "Good" and it looks like I'm very late. Sometimes it will say "Very Late" and it looks good on the graphic.



                            If it makes any difference, I'm using directional hitting and trying to influence the ball. Mostly trying to Pull with Pull Hitters. But I usually try to push the ball when I get to 2 strikes in the count.
                            Try a different camera angle to see if that can help you read pitches a little quicker and better. It has made a big difference for my hitting this year so I've been suggesting it to everyone who is struggling.

                            The high cheese and anything 95-97mph is really difficult for me to time up even with my timing slider at 7. 98-102mph forget about it. Cardinals Ryan Helsey threw almost all fastballs at those speeds and I just couldn't lol. The times I guessed the fastball and swung earlier he threw off speed and made me look foolish. That's how it should feel though vs a top CP coming into the game with a 0.00era on 13 appearances.

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                            • DarthRambo
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 6630

                              #389
                              Re: S & B's MLB 2025 Simulation Sliders

                              Originally posted by bryanm1982
                              You'll have to let me know how you do with James Outman. I am trying my hardest to give him a shot to be the full time CF.



                              Conforto is struggling only hitting .172. Edman is struggling with his .222 average.



                              Will smith can't catch anything to his right and allows so many damn wild pitches.
                              And by the end of the year you'll still win 100+ games with that ball club lol

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                              • PhlliesPhan6
                                MVP
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 1476

                                #390
                                Re: S & B's MLB 2025 Simulation Sliders

                                Originally posted by DarthRambo
                                Try a different camera angle to see if that can help you read pitches a little quicker and better. It has made a big difference for my hitting this year so I've been suggesting it to everyone who is struggling.

                                The high cheese and anything 95-97mph is really difficult for me to time up even with my timing slider at 7. 98-102mph forget about it. Cardinals Ryan Helsey threw almost all fastballs at those speeds and I just couldn't lol. The times I guessed the fastball and swung earlier he threw off speed and made me look foolish. That's how it should feel though vs a top CP coming into the game with a 0.00era on 13 appearances.

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                                Maybe. I'm stubborn and don't like most hitting views because I like a good view of the stadium while I'm playing. I've never been a fan of those catcher type views or the fisheye.

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