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  • MannybeingManny
    Rookie
    • Apr 2010
    • 218

    #406
    Re: S & B's MLB 2025 Simulation Sliders

    Any reason these wouldn’t work without the franchise Fidelity roster?
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    • bryanm1982
      MVP
      • Nov 2016
      • 3785

      #407
      Re: S & B's MLB 2025 Simulation Sliders

      Originally posted by MannybeingManny
      Any reason these wouldn’t work without the franchise Fidelity roster?
      They would work with any roster. These were mostly tested on the stock rosters out of the box.
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      • MannybeingManny
        Rookie
        • Apr 2010
        • 218

        #408
        Re: S & B's MLB 2025 Simulation Sliders

        Any reason these wouldn’t work without the franchise Fidelity roster?
        Year 20 of playing MLB The Show!

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        • Kramer5150
          Medicore Mike
          • Dec 2002
          • 7393

          #409
          Re: S & B's MLB 2025 Simulation Sliders

          Originally posted by MannybeingManny
          Any reason these wouldn’t work without the franchise Fidelity roster?
          Originally posted by bryanm1982
          They would work with any roster. These were mostly tested on the stock rosters out of the box.
          After Bryan answered your original question, you seriously needed to ask it again??

          Originally posted by MannybeingManny
          Any reason these wouldn’t work without the franchise Fidelity roster?
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          • D Tom
            Rookie
            • Apr 2023
            • 93

            #410
            Re: S & B's MLB 2025 Simulation Sliders

            Has anyone gotten any injuries yet? I have the set to 10 for gameplay but I have yet to even have to remove a player from a game yet and I am almost done with April. I am starting to wonder if I've messed something up in my 30-man control settings...


            Edit: Disregard. I still had manual injuries on like a dummy.

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            • Kramer5150
              Medicore Mike
              • Dec 2002
              • 7393

              #411
              Re: S & B's MLB 2025 Simulation Sliders

              Originally posted by bryanm1982
              The only concern with consistency at 4 is you might get more meatballs.
              I wish the Cubs would've got this memo in my game last night... Then I might have had a better chance to comeback, with consistency @4 they were still trying to work the corners pretty good, the difference what I noticed (which was great) was they weren't getting the calls like they were on default.
              People are for reviews if it backs their argument, and against them when they don't.
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              • BarfytheOwl
                Pro
                • Sep 2016
                • 626

                #412
                Re: S & B's MLB 2025 Simulation Sliders

                Yeah my homer output definitely calmed down. I am seeing a few more meatballs than I'm used to but around 8 times outta 10 I'm pulling the left stick down like a dunce and popping up.

                Does anyone else who plays with analog hitting have that issue? I'll get a fastball down the pipe and it's like my brain is hardwired to flick the left stick down even though I know I don't need to

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                • JstnJ
                  Rookie
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 57

                  #413
                  Re: S & B's MLB 2025 Simulation Sliders

                  Originally posted by BarfytheOwl
                  Yeah my homer output definitely calmed down. I am seeing a few more meatballs than I'm used to but around 8 times outta 10 I'm pulling the left stick down like a dunce and popping up.

                  Does anyone else who plays with analog hitting have that issue? I'll get a fastball down the pipe and it's like my brain is hardwired to flick the left stick down even though I know I don't need to
                  Given that you revealed you're using analog hitting...your feedback is effectively invalid.

                  This slider set is tuned specifically for button hitting. Different input method, different results...simple statistics.

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                  • mryan2
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 46

                    #414
                    Re: S & B's MLB 2025 Simulation Sliders

                    These sliders have been a lot fun. The card drawing aspect is brand new to me and has created an extra element of randomness that baseball brings. The way I go about my franchise is that I go in order through the rotation and alternate home stands and road trips. So it u race my number 1 at home, the next game I play will be a road game with my number 2. I draw cards before every game and allow the results to stick throughout the season. This makes every game a little different and every season different. I then reset to the original at the start of the season. Great job. Thank you!

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                    • BarfytheOwl
                      Pro
                      • Sep 2016
                      • 626

                      #415
                      Re: S & B's MLB 2025 Simulation Sliders

                      Originally posted by JstnJ
                      Given that you revealed you're using analog hitting...your feedback is effectively invalid.

                      This slider set is tuned specifically for button hitting. Different input method, different results...simple statistics.
                      Aside from the fact that I've used these sliders every year with results well within their norms regardless of hitting settings before settling on what was most comfortable and fun for me, and have made clear in past years when commenting where any anomalies may be due to my settings or other things to give not only Bryan but others who want to use the sliders but don't want to use the buttons valuable info, sure, my feedback is totally invalid

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                      • bryanm1982
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2016
                        • 3785

                        #416
                        Re: S & B's MLB 2025 Simulation Sliders

                        These sliders should be a good base on any style. It just depends on what is fun for everybody. And to be honest, I don’t believe any of us slider makers on here make a set for analog hitting? If I’m wrong, I’m sorry.

                        And everybody is welcome to give feedback and advice. Someone else could be using that setting and might need help.

                        I’m glad that these changes are working well for everybody. Keep bringing feedback.
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                        • dragster646
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 412

                          #417
                          Re: S & B's MLB 2025 Simulation Sliders

                          These sliders are broken, I'm currently losing 5-0 to the White Sox. Fix your sliders Bryan!

                          Just kidding, they're working great! Currently in my fourth game of the season and the home run issue has been fixed. I won the first two games 4-1 and 5-1, but then lost the third game 5-4 on a walk off by Nolan Arenado. Like I said, currently losing 5-0 to the White Sox because the Twins are just inconsistent like that. I love it! I'm totally reengaged to the game again!
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                          • JstnJ
                            Rookie
                            • Jun 2014
                            • 57

                            #418
                            Re: S & B's MLB 2025 Simulation Sliders

                            Originally posted by BarfytheOwl
                            Sure, my feedback is totally invalid
                            You're getting emotional...this isn’t anything personal...this is from a logical, statistical and tuning standpoint

                            You gave feedback without mentioning you were using analog hitting:

                            Originally posted by BarfytheOwl
                            This is my first game using the full new changes... I've hit 3 homers... felt worth bringing up since that's not something that had happened previously. Will monitor my homerun output over the next 10ish games
                            (No mention of analog there ^)

                            In a sea of posts, the missing context is how bad data ends up influencing slider changes. If you can’t see why that’s a problem… c’mon. I'm not being unreasonable.

                            However nice Bryan’s last reply was about valuing all feedback, at a very basic logical level, it makes more sense not to add noise to the thread. If you're not using the config the set was built for, at minimum say so—or better yet, consider the value in simply giving that feedback in a separate forum topic. That's literally all I am saying and I'm not trying to be mean.

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                            • DarthRambo
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 6630

                              #419
                              Re: S & B's MLB 2025 Simulation Sliders

                              Hitting is different for everyone. I think as long as you're able to time up pitches "good" with consistency it doesn't matter what hitting system you use. If you can time up pitches flicking down and up on the stick power to ya cause I can't do it lol. The hitting sliders should be good for you though as long as you're able to do that.

                              It's the same for pitching. 99% of us use classic with these sliders. But I do know one or two who use the meter. Now pinpoint I don't know if anyone uses it, and I'd definitely be very skeptical if any pitching sliders we have would be good enough for that style.


                              Edit: I will add for hitting if you're getting good, and perfect timing TOO much. Or just averaging 9-15 hits every game, and never have those games you only muster up 2-6 hits. Then obviously something is making it too easy for you. And while sliders are always the easiest answer, for user hitting I don't think sliders (other than pitch speeds) are the answer a large majority of the time.

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                              • BarfytheOwl
                                Pro
                                • Sep 2016
                                • 626

                                #420
                                Re: S & B's MLB 2025 Simulation Sliders

                                Originally posted by JstnJ
                                You're getting emotional...this isn’t anything personal...this is from a logical, statistical and tuning standpoint

                                You gave feedback without mentioning you were using analog hitting:


                                (No mention of analog there ^)

                                In a sea of posts, the missing context is how bad data ends up influencing slider changes. If you can’t see why that’s a problem… c’mon. I'm not being unreasonable.

                                However nice Bryan’s last reply was about valuing all feedback, at a very basic logical level, it makes more sense not to add noise to the thread. If you're not using the config the set was built for, at minimum say so—or better yet, consider the value in simply giving that feedback in a separate forum topic. That's literally all I am saying and I'm not trying to be mean.
                                No, I'm not being emotional, and I didn't think you were being mean.

                                I'm pointing out that this specific point doesn't really matter here because I've been using and providing data for years as it pertains to using this slider set with analog hitting, if it were my first time using the set ever and providing feedback I'd have led off with my settings, but its not, which is something that both Bryan and DR have acknowledged in past years, so they're not getting skewed data from me.

                                I do the same with every set, and have helped test for other creators since 17, because it's useful to know what specific slider values will or won't be affected by user error or stick skills. The two that really do have the biggest effect shift considering analog are human timing and pitch speed.

                                I'm not saying all that to say you're in the wrong line of thinking, or to be rude, because settings can skew results. But this specific set of values plus a user choice for pitch speed have a minimal effect for the average joe player considering hitting controls. I tested both button timing and analog through 30 games within my franchise, the difference in my offensive output overall was negligible. I can't speak on any hitting styles beyond those two.


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