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  • DonkeyJote
    All Star
    • Jul 2003
    • 9192

    #301
    Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K11 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

    Originally posted by mkharsh33
    I've never tried them that way, but honestly, it appears that there is little-to-no difference between using classic vs. swing stick this year. give them a shot and see... if you compare blazzen's (who uses swing stick) i think they're pretty much similar in most regards.
    The way I see it, all Classic hitting does is have the cpu decide for you whether you are going to use Power, Contact, or defensive swing depending on the situation. Since they've tuned what situations it uses what a lot better this year, I don't think it should make too much difference which you use.

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    • DetroitStyle
      Meow
      • May 2011
      • 1047

      #302
      Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K11 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

      it scares me how close these sliders are to real life...

      had a MLB today game white sox vs mariners (me). Lost 2-1. In real life today they lost 3-1. Danks (in game) had 7.1 ip with 5 SO. IRL he had 7.1 IP with 6 SO. Konerko homered in game and IRL.

      Not slider based but crain and santos came in and they also came in at the exact time and length in tonights real life game...

      crazy lol

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      • Neolithic
        Pro
        • Apr 2003
        • 699

        #303
        Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K11 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

        my country for an injury/dl time bug and check swing fix patch!!!!!!

        otherwise, everytime I play The Show I end up frustrated, and I turn to 2k to console me and whisper sweet self esteem raising things in my ear. I use these sliders (modified slightly to fit my taste/skills) and have been having awesome games.

        Fun side fact: can't hit a lick in MLB 11 right now, and REALLLLLY can't hit with Colvin on my Cubs. In my 2k11 franchise, I'm an absolute MONSTER with Colvin, he leads the team in HR's and RBI's after the first couple weeks. (ironically enough, playing 1B because Pena is down for another week as is Castro) So I'll have some defensive juggling to do when they come back. But he's fast becoming my cleanup hitter.
        You do what you want in your association, don't let others ruin the fun. Just because other people say it's cheap doesn't mean you have to let it affect your association, just have fun - Evan_OS

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        • WDaniel
          Rookie
          • Jul 2002
          • 418

          #304
          Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K11 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

          I have to give it up to MK. These sliders are incredible. Being a veteran of The Show and being frustrated with how detached the user feels from the hitting mechanic, these sliders really do recall the old days of the High Heat Baseball series.

          For the first time in years, videogame baseball is fun for me again. Yes, The Show undoubtedly captures the "little things" elements better than 2k11 (sans the now bland commentary), but 2k11 has a more fun gameplay experience IMO, thanks to these sliders, than The Show.

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          • mkharsh33
            Hall Of Fame
            • Nov 2006
            • 12781

            #305
            Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K11 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

            Thanks, guys. Appreciate your kind feedback. This is the most fun I've had playing a baseball game in years... Collectively we nailed them this year and it didn't take another two months. Thanks a bunch!
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            • CHB1
              Rookie
              • Nov 2010
              • 12

              #306
              Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K11 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

              This slider set in my opinion has one really big flaw:
              with outfield speed at 50 the run animations looks ridiculous and unrealistic.

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              • mkharsh33
                Hall Of Fame
                • Nov 2006
                • 12781

                #307
                Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K11 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

                Originally posted by CHB1
                This slider set in my opinion has one really big flaw:
                with outfield speed at 50 the run animations looks ridiculous and unrealistic.
                That's fine... So slow your speed down BUT then watch the hits start to accumulate at a high rate.

                You gotta make concessions...
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                • Neolithic
                  Pro
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 699

                  #308
                  Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K11 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

                  I'm not sure it's the sliders, probably more the engine. But to expand on what Daniel said. I too feel detached hitting in the Show. It's as if I'm always going for "perfect" timing no matter what I want to do with it, or if the pitch is outside or inside.

                  When I play 2k with MK's sliders, I feel like I turned on an inside fastball and crush it down the line (or in Colvin's case about 30 rows back :P ) or I sat on an off-speed pitch and drove it the other way swinging late, where in the Show usually results in "weak" contact, and possibly it being pulled (it just seems like pulling and going the other way in The Show is up to the AI and not your input at times)

                  And I can't read pitches like I can in 2k (thank you batters eye, and batters eye slider!!)
                  You do what you want in your association, don't let others ruin the fun. Just because other people say it's cheap doesn't mean you have to let it affect your association, just have fun - Evan_OS

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                  • Herky
                    Working for the weekend
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 4715

                    #309
                    Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K11 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

                    I don't get the inputting the sliders from ALL-STAR difficulty. Each time I do that and save it changes. I can only get them to save and stay that way when I do that under CUSTOM.

                    What I am doing wrong?
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                    • Hal Fowler
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 150

                      #310
                      Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K11 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

                      Originally posted by DonkeyJote
                      The way I see it, all Classic hitting does is have the cpu decide for you whether you are going to use Power, Contact, or defensive swing depending on the situation. Since they've tuned what situations it uses what a lot better this year, I don't think it should make too much difference which you use.
                      I would appreciate it if 2K explained how they expected power and contact to be used. It feels different from last year, wear I tuned the game for contact, and only used the power swing on 2-0 and 3-1 counts. This year, I use it until I get to 2 strikes.

                      But if we could actually see what was being used in classic, I would love it. It would be a real eye opener on what 2K wa trying to tune their game for.

                      By the way, I have used the classic a bit lately, and it is pretty good.

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                      • WDaniel
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 418

                        #311
                        Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K11 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

                        Originally posted by Neolithic
                        I'm not sure it's the sliders, probably more the engine. But to expand on what Daniel said. I too feel detached hitting in the Show. It's as if I'm always going for "perfect" timing no matter what I want to do with it, or if the pitch is outside or inside.

                        When I play 2k with MK's sliders, I feel like I turned on an inside fastball and crush it down the line (or in Colvin's case about 30 rows back :P ) or I sat on an off-speed pitch and drove it the other way swinging late, where in the Show usually results in "weak" contact, and possibly it being pulled (it just seems like pulling and going the other way in The Show is up to the AI and not your input at times)

                        And I can't read pitches like I can in 2k (thank you batters eye, and batters eye slider!!)
                        Exactly. That's the problem with The Show's timing hitting mechanic: you can have PERFECT timing but many batters (even really good ones) will still miss the pitch/foul it off/make weak contact. It's not only frustrating, but completely unrewarding in my opinion.

                        In 2k11 (with these sliders), if you nail the timing on a pitch that's out over the plate, you're going to at least make solid contact.

                        Also, the late game AI on The Show cheats, which makes you want to throw the controller through the TV set. At least in 2k11, if you give up a lead late you can relate it to making a mistake, not so with The Show IMO.

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                        • Shock6822
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 153

                          #312
                          Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K11 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

                          I know this is a pretty newbie question, but I'm trying classic hitting for the first time - is there power swinging with classic? Or any way to swing for the fences? Or is it all pure contact swings?

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                          • Shock6822
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 153

                            #313
                            Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K11 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

                            Never mind, sliders aren't doing it for me...pitched as David Price and gave up about 9 hits in 4 innings with no hit variety and I don't like not being able to power swing Thank you though!

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                            • mkharsh33
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 12781

                              #314
                              Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K11 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

                              It's not the sliders... I think you should try Blazzen's or BigFnJoe's. They are probably more of what you're style of play is looking for.
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                              • StLfan72
                                Rookie
                                • Mar 2006
                                • 132

                                #315
                                Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K11 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

                                Originally posted by Shock6822
                                Never mind, sliders aren't doing it for me...pitched as David Price and gave up about 9 hits in 4 innings with no hit variety and I don't like not being able to power swing Thank you though!
                                You should give it more than one game before giving up. Even in real life, David Price gets tagged every now and then, show a little patience, learn how to play the game--rather than knock these sliders, maybe you should just admit that these are probably a little too advanced for your skill right now.

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