Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?

[Chip Douglass]

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The difference is Koufax finished strong after he figured it all out. In your scenario Kershaw came out of the gate quick and became mediocre. I don't think that works for a HOF vote.

3 Cy Youngs, an MVP, four consecutive ERA titles, and two of the longest scoreless innings streaks in the history of the game. That's what I'm getting at when I'm comparing Kershaw to Koufax. The peak alone is good enough to get him in. It's just a matter of hanging around as a role player for a few years and filling out the 10 season requirement.

Kershaw being Kershaw though, he'll probably continue being the best pitcher of his generation for the foreseeable future and make the whole thing a non-argument.

[LowerWolf]

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A-Rod better not get in before Bonds.

[Chip Douglass]

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Between the first mega-contract with the Rangers, the failed PED test, fake apology tour, and then BioGenesis, I'm not too worried about A-Rod getting in anytime soon.

[55]

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So that could help the cases of Bonds, Clemens, McGwire, and A-Rod.

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[Sportsforever]

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Barry's left handed?

[redsox4evur]

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Clemens is a pitcher?

[ImTellinTim]

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McGwire doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as the other players.

[AC]

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I'd probably put McGwire in but he's not a generational player or anything.

[Sportsforever]

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McGwire doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as the other players.

Oh, I got it...I was being tongue in cheek.

[dubcity]

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I'd probably put McGwire in but he's not a generational player or anything.

I would put him in for his role in the resurgence of baseball's popularity alone. Probably Sosa too. But I'm forgiving and generous like that, I guess.

[Chip Douglass]

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Even ignoring the PED issue, I'd have a lot of trouble voting for Sosa.

Career 124 wRC+ in a corner outfield spot, without a monster peak, is not that great. Throw in PED use and he's not really in the conversation for me.

[55]

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McGwire doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as the other players.

[DrJones]

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If Carlos Delgado can't get in, I wouldn't put in Ortiz. That's just me.

I think one can make a viable argument that Ortiz belongs in the Hall and a much easier one that Delgado doesn't. What's egregious is that Papi will sail in while Delgado was dropped off the ballot after one year.

[Speedy]

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I think one can make a viable argument that Ortiz belongs in the Hall and a much easier one that Delgado doesn't. What's egregious is that Papi will sail in while Delgado was dropped off the ballot after one year.

His NYM years cost him, I think.

His 2000 season is unreal; for that matter, that Jays team was loaded - unrealized potential.

[SPTO]

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His NYM years cost him, I think.

His 2000 season is unreal; for that matter, that Jays team was loaded - unrealized potential.

I wonder if that whole "not standing for the anthem" thing is still in the back of the minds of the more delusional voters out there.