The Biogenesis/Suspension thread

[Sandman42]

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There are reports that Arod may get a lifetime ban.

Wow, thats a select club. 1918 Sox and Pete Rose.

I doubt it, but hope its true. Get rid of that awful contract.

[TheMatrix31]

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I can't imagine Alex Rodriguez gets a lifetime ban.

No chance in hell.

[slickdtc]

Why would he? Repeat offender, but there's protocol in place for that.

I think it's just people putting this out there because no one likes him.


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[Psyblast]

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Didn't A-Rod hire people to intentionally impede and subvert MLB's investigation? I could see them banning him for life.

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Didn't A-Rod hire people to intentionally impede and subvert MLB's investigation? I could see them banning him for life.

That he did.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/i-team/sources-a-rod-bought-biogenesis-documents-article-1.1315322

[slickdtc]

I could see that being fair grounds for a pretty substantial ban. At this point, he's 37, 38 anyway, any lengthy ban is gonna be a significant chunk of the remainder of his career. Why not go out with a bang?!

But this leads me to this question: didn't Melky Cabrera and/or his people create a fake website to throw off MLB? There's a difference here but the intent is similar.


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[Marino]

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I am just ready for the bottom to fall out. Give me a full list, let me shun who needs to be shunned, and lets move on.

[roadman]

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I could see that being fair grounds for a pretty substantial ban. At this point, he's 37, 38 anyway, any lengthy ban is gonna be a significant chunk of the remainder of his career. Why not go out with a bang?!

But this leads me to this question: didn't Melky Cabrera and/or his people create a fake website to throw off MLB? There's a difference here but the intent is similar.


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I think Skip Payles said earlier today if the ban was for a year, his career would be done, practically, based on his age. He was going for a lifetime ban, too, but I don't pay much attention to him.

[TheMatrix31]

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Forgot about the people he hired to obstruct.

I don't see the lifetime ban happening BUT it's no longer in "no chance in hell" territory.

I think he gets suspended through the 2014 season. With his age and injuries, that may as well be a career-ending suspension anyway.

I'm so ready for this crap to be over. I guess it's about accumulating evidence but this "trickling out" stuff is infuriating.

[G3no_11]

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I hope A-Rod comes back after his suspension. I hate the guy, but the way the Yankees seem to be trying to keep him from playing, I'd like to see him come back out of spite.

[NDAlum]

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Ryan Braun is an absolute dirtball for his arrogance in beating that first "charge". The way he arrogantly handled himself made me want to vomit.

This happens and he gives a BS statement.

In the end it doesn't even matter. He cheated and still gets all that money. I'm just jealous. He has ZERO integrity but does it really matter at the end of the day? Nope he's living the good life.

[SPTO]

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Former SI writer and current TSN employee Michael Farber was on the radio this afternoon talking about this. He believes this is Selig's way of changing his legacy from the guy who overlooked roids in '98 to someone who is trying to help the game today but the bigger thing he spoke of is that this isn't even the beginning of the end of the steroid era. He notes that there needs to be a tangible punishment like making the suspensions be with pay or to even go so far as to make the player's contract void with the team he's on. It's those kind of penalties that will REALLY make players think twice about cheating with a blatant disregard for whatever punishment they'll receive.

[inkcil]

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I have a question: Why would Selig and the MLB "settle" with Braun for 65 games if they had all this dirt and evidence on him. We know Braun is guilty b/c he accepted the suspension. But what leverage did he have to cause MLB to "make a deal" with him? If I'm MLB, I throw 100 games at him or more and if he wants to appeal, let him. What good would his appeal do him if I got tons of evidence? What is MLB hiding and why is no one asking/talking about this aspect of the story?

[Psyblast]

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I have a question: Why would Selig and the MLB "settle" with Braun for 65 games if they had all this dirt and evidence on him. We know Braun is guilty b/c he accepted the suspension. But what leverage did he have to cause MLB to "make a deal" with him? If I'm MLB, I throw 100 games at him or more and if he wants to appeal, let him. What good would his appeal do him if I got tons of evidence? What is MLB hiding and why is no one asking/talking about this aspect of the story?

Robs the players association of leverage in appealing any of the suspensions when the most prominent of the cheaters tucks his tail between his legs and agrees to go down without a fight.

[C the Lyte]

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Former SI writer and current TSN employee Michael Farber was on the radio this afternoon talking about this. He believes this is Selig's way of changing his legacy from the guy who overlooked roids in '98 to someone who is trying to help the game today but the bigger thing he spoke of is that this isn't even the beginning of the end of the steroid era. He notes that there needs to be a tangible punishment like making the suspensions be with pay or to even go so far as to make the player's contract void with the team he's on. It's those kind of penalties that will REALLY make players think twice about cheating with a blatant disregard for whatever punishment they'll receive.

That's the thing that could be a real deterrent. Not just baseball but all sports. Most are taking these things to cash in on that big contract. Braun signed a $ 110 M contract I think. He takes a $ 3.4 M hit this year, and continues to cash in from there.

I'd make that trade all day long.