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  • yvesdereuter
    Banned
    • Jun 2007
    • 1688

    #496
    Re: 2008 Chicago Cubs

    Originally posted by Perceptor
    Another solid win and I loved how the team mobbed Soriano after his hit. Cubbies are playing some solid ball and as long as the pitching stays consistent, they'll be in good shape.

    And on that note, Milestone Marquis is on the mound tonight. I call him Milestone Marquis because anytime he pitches where someones going for a mileston, whether its a 100th win or a 500th HR, Jason is a safe bet to give it up.

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    • ZM Punk
      We Spent Some Money!
      • Feb 2003
      • 6260

      #497
      Re: 2008 Chicago Cubs

      Originally posted by fugazi
      I think Zambrano, Soto, and Marmol might be the only cubs All-Stars...cases could be made for Lee, Ramirez, and Soriano, but I think each is outshined by other guys...Ramirez actually might have a better shot than Lee...


      I think Zambrano and Soto will definitely make the team. I would switch Marmol for Soriano though. I just don't see a setup man making the team. Especially a lesser known guy like Marmol.
      "The academic support at Ohio State, there is no way you can fail. Even if you're giving minimal effort there is no way you can fail."

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      • yvesdereuter
        Banned
        • Jun 2007
        • 1688

        #498
        Re: 2008 Chicago Cubs

        Im so glad that we have Fukudome.

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        • fugazi
          MVP
          • Apr 2003
          • 3749

          #499
          Re: 2008 Chicago Cubs

          I really think it might come down to Sean Gallagher. Presuming 16+ wins from Zambrano, 27+ from Dempster and Lilly....hopefully + a lot...If the Cubs could have a 4th pitcher that could keep them in games on a (reasonably) regular basis, that would be dynamite.

          Marquis could be that guy, but his run support seems to be a bit subpar. After his first 3 starts, it dropped off significantly. I don't know what to think about him. It seems like he shouldn't be so bad, but then you think about how tough it is to win when your starter is going to go less than 6, walk 2-4 dudes, likely give up a homer, and around 3 runs.

          It is not that our offense can't overcome 3 runs...it is just a good chunk of real estate the team is giving over to the opposition. But Marquis is a fifth starter (however wacky our rotation order has become)...10 wins, 11 losses...I might take it. Likely will, anyways.
          Australian Rules Football...just sayin'

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          • yvesdereuter
            Banned
            • Jun 2007
            • 1688

            #500
            Re: 2008 Chicago Cubs

            Originally posted by fugazi
            I really think it might come down to Sean Gallagher. Presuming 16+ wins from Zambrano, 27+ from Dempster and Lilly....hopefully + a lot...If the Cubs could have a 4th pitcher that could keep them in games on a (reasonably) regular basis, that would be dynamite.

            Marquis could be that guy, but his run support seems to be a bit subpar. After his first 3 starts, it dropped off significantly. I don't know what to think about him. It seems like he shouldn't be so bad, but then you think about how tough it is to win when your starter is going to go less than 6, walk 2-4 dudes, likely give up a homer, and around 3 runs.

            It is not that our offense can't overcome 3 runs...it is just a good chunk of real estate the team is giving over to the opposition. But Marquis is a fifth starter (however wacky our rotation order has become)...10 wins, 11 losses...I might take it. Likely will, anyways.
            I saw that Livan Hernandez might be on the trading block. Would you be interested?

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            • fugazi
              MVP
              • Apr 2003
              • 3749

              #501
              Re: 2008 Chicago Cubs

              Originally posted by zitomulder
              I think Zambrano and Soto will definitely make the team. I would switch Marmol for Soriano though. I just don't see a setup man making the team. Especially a lesser known guy like Marmol.
              Ask any manager in the NL....

              He is more than a setup man...he is the go-to guy.

              Cliff Hurdle should pick him...or he should be fired.

              And FWIW, ARam is #2 behind the buzzsaw that is Chipper Jones in OPS. And has been rather clutch this year, too. Braun has some gawdy numbers, but Ramirez beats him in walks, avr, on-base, and ops.
              Australian Rules Football...just sayin'

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              • yvesdereuter
                Banned
                • Jun 2007
                • 1688

                #502
                Re: 2008 Chicago Cubs

                Originally posted by fugazi
                Ask any manager in the NL....

                He is more than a setup man...he is the go-to guy.

                Cliff Hurdle should pick him...or he should be fired.
                Yeah, Marmol has saved our bacon so many times. He is by far our best reliever. If theres ever a tight situation, its usually Marmol who we turn to. Wood usually comes in with the bases empty. Marmol does it all.

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                • ezekiel55
                  Th*s F*c* C*sh*s Ch*cks
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 2156

                  #503
                  Re: 2008 Chicago Cubs

                  Not to be a stickler but its Clint Hurdle :wink:

                  Speaking of acquiring another pitcher though, I'm predicting the Cubs make a play for C.C. Sabathia before the deadline...What do you guys think?

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                  • fugazi
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 3749

                    #504
                    Re: 2008 Chicago Cubs

                    Originally posted by zekey55
                    Not to be a stickler but its Clint Hurdle :wink:

                    Speaking of acquiring another pitcher though, I'm predicting the Cubs make a play for C.C. Sabathia before the deadline...What do you guys think?

                    i dont really know what to think about that...it would certainly feel a bit out of character.
                    Australian Rules Football...just sayin'

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                    • Jistic
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 16405

                      #505
                      Re: 2008 Chicago Cubs

                      Originally posted by zekey55
                      Man...If we could just play as well on the road as we do at home our record would be amazing.

                      And the Braves would be the '27 Yankees.
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                      • ezekiel55
                        Th*s F*c* C*sh*s Ch*cks
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 2156

                        #506
                        Re: 2008 Chicago Cubs

                        Originally posted by Jistic
                        And the Braves would be the '27 Yankees.
                        Wow!

                        I just checked out their home and away records...what a discrepancy!

                        I had no idea they were playing that poorly on the road.

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                        • Perceptor
                          MVP
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 4364

                          #507
                          Re: 2008 Chicago Cubs

                          5-4 now with Fukudome up....c'mon let's try and get another run

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                          • fugazi
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 3749

                            #508
                            Re: 2008 Chicago Cubs

                            great win...tough win.

                            The Rockies left a TON of men on base....I wonder what the record is...

                            Soto comes up big with another sac fly...but he is going to die out there if he catches every game...how many has he sat out? 2?
                            Australian Rules Football...just sayin'

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                            • ZM Punk
                              We Spent Some Money!
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 6260

                              #509
                              Re: 2008 Chicago Cubs

                              Originally posted by fugazi
                              Ask any manager in the NL....

                              He is more than a setup man...he is the go-to guy.

                              Cliff Hurdle should pick him...or he should be fired.

                              And FWIW, ARam is #2 behind the buzzsaw that is Chipper Jones in OPS. And has been rather clutch this year, too. Braun has some gawdy numbers, but Ramirez beats him in walks, avr, on-base, and ops.


                              I'm not by any means saying that Carlos doesn't deserve it, but deserving it and actually getting selected are two different things. Let's face it, setup men hardly ever get selected to all star games. Now if he was our closer like he should be, he would be a shoe in.
                              "The academic support at Ohio State, there is no way you can fail. Even if you're giving minimal effort there is no way you can fail."

                              Adolphus Washington-Ohio State Freshman

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                              • Happy29
                                All Star
                                • Jan 2006
                                • 5489

                                #510
                                Re: 2008 Chicago Cubs

                                Can you believe this it's 10-9 now the baseball Gods are smiling down upon Wrigley this year
                                “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
                                Benjamin Franklin

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