Seattle Mariners 2012 team thread

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No matter which way you put that lineup together they are still a bottom three team in the AL, offensively speaking, along with Oakland and Minnesota. I doubt shuffling their lineup around would really matter much at this point. They just flat out don't have any bats.

[bsurocksrule]

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That sir, is a lie. Sure most of our players aren't doing as well as we think they should be doing, but I feel like they're doing a lot frickin better than last year towards the start. They just need to get on a good streak and they'll be very good.

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Whatever you say, broski.

[MarinersVsDodgers]

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I like your lineup, Apostle. However, I do actually agree with Triunfel being brought up! The youth movement isn't getting any youth at short (Brendan Ryan's bat's gone sour, Kawasaki is an utility man) and would most likely benefit. That being said, it won't make the Mariners a playoff team, but the youth could create a push towards a .500 season, or maybe even 1 or 2 games above .500!

Oh, and btw, Shawn Kelley has been called up from Triple A and sent to the M's bullpen.

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No matter which way you put that lineup together they are still a bottom three team in the AL, offensively speaking, along with Oakland and Minnesota. I doubt shuffling their lineup around would really matter much at this point. They just flat out don't have any bats.

I would never argue otherwise. My point is if you're going to see which young players are legit future contributors to this organization, the youth movement should be all encompassing with the exception of Ichiro (crossing my fingers that it's only one more year). Playing these young guys will be brutally painful for M's fans who want to see wins, because they're en route to another 90-95+ loss season.

I think running out Brendan Ryan (.146 BA) and Miguel Olivo on a routine basis is stupid at this point. I don't expect Olivo to mash but he goes on torrid cold streaks that just kill this offense and the same could be said for Ryan, but he's actually a worse hitter.

There's no equation or group of players, young or not, that will make the M's anything but a bottom of the barrel offense in the AL, but let's get the kids as many at-bats as we can. Like I said, it will be painful, but this is the direction set forth by management so get rid of the dead, older weight.

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I like your lineup, Apostle. However, I do actually agree with Triunfel being brought up! The youth movement isn't getting any youth at short (Brendan Ryan's bat's gone sour, Kawasaki is an utility man) and would most likely benefit. That being said, it won't make the Mariners a playoff team, but the youth could create a push towards a .500 season, or maybe even 1 or 2 games above .500!

Oh, and btw, Shawn Kelley has been called up from Triple A and sent to the M's bullpen.

Yeah, Ramirez sent down to stretch out his arm in AAA in preparation of hitting the M's starting rotation next month. I like it. Kelley should just add more stability to a shaky bullpen and Ramirez will improve the rotation when he takes the place of Millwood or Noesi.

I hope they bring up Triunfel. I don't think it would be a bad move in the least. I'd bet my house that they will never sniff .500 again this season, regardless of what they do with their current roster in respect to the organization's youth. Hope I'm wrong...

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Nice to see Seager get the big 2-out hit!

2-0, Mariners... That should be plenty for Felix going forward, now the bullpen actually holding on to the lead is another story...

[thaima1shu]

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Wedge pulls Felix, who was throwing a one-hitter complete game shut out, in favor to give Delabar an inning of relief.

I'll tell you all now, Wedge won't be the Major league manager of the Mariners when they are competing for the playoffs in a few years!

He was at 107 pitches with a huge lead. I don't see what the problem is.

[goblue1523]

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Wedge pulls Felix, who was throwing a one-hitter complete game shut out, in favor to give Delabar an inning of relief.

I'll tell you all now, Wedge won't be the Major league manager of the Mariners when they are competing for the playoffs in a few years!

Yeah, and if he gets hurt, Wedge looks bad for leaving him in so he can get a complete game shutout.

[MarinersVsDodgers]

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I would've liked to see Felix throw a cg shutout, because last night's game was probably one of the only opportunities he will have to throw one this season. I just was worried that the collapsible bullpen the M's have would give up another lead, like they have tended to do.

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This isn't MLB 12: The Show though, this is real life.

Sending a guy out there in the 9th inning with a 7 run lead who had already thrown 107 pitches is foolhardy.

Plus, he had already given up a base hit so it wasn't like him finishing the game would be some major feat anyway. Now, if he had a no hitter still going then that would be much different.

[MarinersVsDodgers]

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Listening to the pregame show on ESPN radio today, Wedge had asked Felix if he wanted to pitch the ninth, and Felix said "I'm good." So it was Felix's decision...my bad.

[Coug00]

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Not a bad week for Felix. 16 innings pitched, 6 hits, 1 run, 18 k's, and ONE line drive allowed. ONE. He faced 59 batters and gave up a single line drive. If you add the Detroit start before that, he's given up just 3 line drives in 23 innings and 85 batters faced. That's unreal.

BTW...Walker had another great performance yesterday for Jackson. As long as he stays healthy and continues a normal progression, we're going to have a 20 year old starter for the Mariners in the 2nd half of 2013.

[thaima1shu]

Not a bad week for Felix. 16 innings pitched, 6 hits, 1 run, 18 k's, and ONE line drive allowed. ONE. He faced 59 batters and gave up a single line drive. If you add the Detroit start before that, he's given up just 3 line drives in 23 innings and 85 batters faced. That's unreal.

BTW...Walker had another great performance yesterday for Jackson. As long as he stays healthy and continues a normal progression, we're going to have a 20 year old starter for the Mariners in the 2nd half of 2013.

Guess Felix's velocity issues haven't caused any negative results yet. Still looks dominant to me.

Wish we could fast forward to 2013 to see the Jackson trio come up.

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Wedge pulls Felix, who was throwing a one-hitter complete game shut out, in favor to give Delabar an inning of relief.

I'll tell you all now, Wedge won't be the Major league manager of the Mariners when they are competing for the playoffs in a few years!

Didn't bother me. 107 pitches, a 7-0 lead... Felix made the choice on whether or not to finish the game. He was done, he knows his body and arm better than any of us do.

I would not blame that on Wedge.