**The Official New York Yankees Thread**

[DieHardYankee26]

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http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/17077458/new-york-yankees-front-office-odds-whether-sell-assets

According to a baseball source who spoke to ESPN on condition of anonymity, the opposing factions are composed of the baseball operations people, led by general manager Brian Cashman, who believe the team should sell off its assets and plan for the future, and the business side, which is led by owner Hal Steinbrenner and team president Randy Levine, who hold to the belief that the club is still in contention.

According to the source, the baseball people would be willing to trade the core of the team, players such as closer Aroldis Chapman, first baseman Mark Teixeira, starting pitchers Nathan Eovaldi and Ivan Nova, and right fielder Carlos Beltran, who has been the team's best hitter all season and its only position player to make the All-Star team.

"All the talk of buying or selling is speculation at this point,'' Levine said. "There's two weeks to go, and at that time we'll make a decision. You can't make any decisions until you have specific transactions in front of you.''

Levine refused to directly address questions about whether the hierarchy was divided over the direction the club should take at the Aug. 1 trade deadline.

"We believe in this team,'' he said.

2 and a half weeks...

[NYJets]

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It's mind boggling if they are really still debating this. The team isn't good, it's not going to change, their washed up players aren't going to suddenly be not washed up. There is zero buzz about the team. None of the guys rumored to be traded would cause some sort of outcry if we moved them.

They have time, and if they are just trying to keep the perception that they aren't sellers for leverage purposes, fine. But this ownership and front office hasn't earned that benefit of the doubt.

[CMH]

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I feel they're losing leverage as teams will look for other players and once Chicago has a reliever, there goes the Andrew Miller sweepstakes.

[DieHardYankee26]

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Miller's tough, his value will never be higher but I don't know what that's worth. Seems like the Cubs won't bite on Schwarber. I'll be interested to see what he could pull in.

The Yankees are discussing the possibility of trying to extend closer Aroldis Chapman, according to Rosenthal. Talks to this point are just internal and haven’t been raised with Chapman’s representatives, but the club isn’t set on selling off big league assets over the next few weeks. Team president Randy Levine maintained to Rosenthal that the Yankees like their team and won’t make a call on trading away veterans until much closer to the Aug. 1 non-waiver trade deadline.

For the love of God, LOL. I don't even know what to say other than LOL. Randy Levine is going to get extended and a raise after this year, Hal has his human shield picked out perfectly.

I don't know how soon "soon" is (and they shouldn't need to see anything more to know this team isn't doing anything) but this is promising I guess:

https://twitter.com/ken_rosenthal/status/754405228519325697

Just reported on @FS1: #Yankees will trade potential FAs Chapman, Beltran if things don't turn. Drawing interest in multiple SPs. Link soon.

Clarification on #Yankees: Nothing certain. Beltran limited no-trade. But NYY will take offers for both him and Chapman if they fall out.

I didn't know Beltran had any kind of no-trade. That's interesting.

[Rocket32]

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Ok I have officially seen enough of this Yankees team. Well ok, I'll be honest, I already saw enough of this team before this point but now I've really seen enough. Not sure how the Yankees front office still can't see that this isn't a playoff caliber team.

I would actually like to see the Yankess extend Chapman but they better make a decision about that quick. Start negotiating with him now (if he will) and if they can't reach an agreement then move him.

And in my opinion the Yankees should just buy out A-Rods deal right now. Theirs no reason to believe he can turn it around and he's just taking up a roster spot at this point. It's a waste having a guy who can barely play the field on your bench, espeacilly when he can't hit. Dosen't really matter if they have quality depth to replace him or not at this point. It would be hard for whoever they have to do worse.

[CMH]

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The Yanks won't improve until they start behaving like a baseball team instead of New York Yankees, pinstripe pedigree of MLB.

Real teams extend players during the season. Real teams ship out players for prospects.

The Yankees still behave as if it's 1999 and payroll is all you need to win.

[DieHardYankee26]

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I've seen people say a scenario where we trade Miller for a pretty decent haul and then extend Chapman because he's younger, that's a decent option I guess. I'd rather get the haul for him now and then re-sign him in the offseason. At this point, I just want us to get something for what we have.

A-Rod won't take a buyout. We could just cut him and eat the money which I would be fine with, but I'm sure for that kind of money they're going to hold out hope that he can get it together and make a run for some milestones to drum up ticket sales.

[Rocket32]

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I've seen people say a scenario where we trade Miller for a pretty decent haul and then extend Chapman because he's younger, that's a decent option I guess. I'd rather get the haul for him now and then re-sign him in the offseason. At this point, I just want us to get something for what we have.

A-Rod won't take a buyout. We could just cut him and eat the money which I would be fine with, but I'm sure for that kind of money they're going to hold out hope that he can get it together and make a run for some milestones to drum up ticket sales.

I think I'm a fan of the scenario where the Yankees trade Chapman and Miler and then reastablish a 1-2 bullpen punch in the offseason by bringing back Chapman in free agency, or signing Kenley Jansen or Mark Melancon in free agency but I have a feeling they will only move Chapman out of the three headed monster. Don't get me wrong, I really like Miller but the Yankees could really use the prospects he would bring back.

[DamnYanks2]

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I feel they're losing leverage as teams will look for other players and once Chicago has a reliever, there goes the Andrew Miller sweepstakes.

There should be no rush on Miller, unless the package is to good to pass up. The cubs want to play hard ball, fine. There's plenty of other suitors.

You think the nationals want to go into the playoffs with Papelbum? The market for Miller and Chapman will be there with the Cubs or without, so breathe easy.



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[jb12780]

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Sell em all. The last stretch of wins was a fluke.

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[DieHardYankee26]

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Agreed on Andrew, like I said in the trade deadline thread, they have no leverage. Someone else can offer a big package, if they dont, we just keep him and run him out again to contenders next year if we're in the same spot. We have no real incentive to give him up unless blown away.

[DamnYanks2]

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That umpire tonight may have given me a few strokes.

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[DieHardYankee26]

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Article about one of Cashman's stat guys, the head of our analytics department:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/25/sp...-equation.html

I'm getting probably an unhealthily level of obsessed about front office mechanics this summer so I thought it was pretty good.

Gossage’s comments were met mostly with eye-rolling, just another crank shouting at children to get off his lawn, and they also earned him a scolding from Cashman.

I had no idea that Cashman talked to Goose about that stuff lol, I love it.

Earlier this year, Headley asked David Grabiner, the director of quantitative analysis for the Yankees, to bring him something that might be useful.

“It can be frustrating when you get information passed down to you without any communication,” Headley said. “More than anything, I’m trying to get that relationship going so that when he brings me something there’s that trust that this is something that might really help me, it’s not just some obscure number.”

When put like this, I understand why athletes don't like analytics and the way they're pushed. People just throwing arbitrary numbers at you, telling you your wOBA is too low or you don't have a high enough UZR, I can see why that would be frustrating.

But Miller, the reliever, said he believed that would change with the next generation who will come up understanding metrics such as Z-scores or wOBA and use them to influence how they swing the bat or throw the ball.

I hate reading about Andrew sometimes man, I love the dude and he might end up traded. He brings so much to the team, he's best friends with Dellin, and I remember an article about how he keeps a notebook full of how all of his at bats go (not unheard of, but stuff that guys like Maddux did) and can remember sequences and stuff like that and he gives Dellin advice sometimes. Dude is just really smart, I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up a pitching coach one day if he wanted to. He comes off as that kind of guy. He's one of my favorites for sure.

[jb12780]

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If that's the price for a rental Chapman, the haul for Miller would be bananas.

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[DamnYanks2]

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Article about one of Cashman's stat guys, the head of our analytics department:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/25/sp...-equation.html

I'm getting probably an unhealthily level of obsessed about front office mechanics this summer so I thought it was pretty good.



I had no idea that Cashman talked to Goose about that stuff lol, I love it.



When put like this, I understand why athletes don't like analytics and the way they're pushed. People just throwing arbitrary numbers at you, telling you your wOBA is too low or you don't have a high enough UZR, I can see why that would be frustrating.



I hate reading about Andrew sometimes man, I love the dude and he might end up traded. He brings so much to the team, he's best friends with Dellin, and I remember an article about how he keeps a notebook full of how all of his at bats go (not unheard of, but stuff that guys like Maddux did) and can remember sequences and stuff like that and he gives Dellin advice sometimes. Dude is just really smart, I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up a pitching coach one day if he wanted to. He comes off as that kind of guy. He's one of my favorites for sure.

First off I had no idea, their was such a thing as fantasy surfing lol.

No, it was a great read, good find, I find myself even more excited about the team's future, sounds like it's in excellent hands.




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