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  • LorenzoDC
    MVP
    • Sep 2010
    • 1857

    #361
    Re: NBA 2K17 Defensive Settings Community Wiki

    Originally posted by loso_34
    if i set my team defensive settings to ice every on ball screen...yet go to individual matchups and say play under on a non shooter how does that work out?

    does it confuse the ai?
    Your player by player settings control what your team does. The main screen is just a way to set the default for your defensive scheme but you can create exceptions using the individual player screens. So the only confusion will be if you take over manual defense and forget to ice when your teammates expect you to. Then your defense will break down: when you and your CPU teammates are not using the same PnR tactics.

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    • BigL32
      Rookie
      • Oct 2015
      • 38

      #362
      Re: NBA 2K17 Defensive Settings Community Wiki

      I feel your pain! The same exact thing happens to me. It like the your AI teammates get caught ball watching or something. My Center constantly gets beat down floor too. I don't mind the CPU scoring, but at least let me players play some respectable defense. Probably not going to get fixed this year, but hopefully next year it does.

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      • BigL32
        Rookie
        • Oct 2015
        • 38

        #363
        Re: NBA 2K17 Defensive Settings Community Wiki

        I'm confused! What does the Stay Attached PnR setting mean? Does it mean if select "Stay Attached" for CP3 and Blake sets a screen, i'm just switching, or am I just going over, or double CP3. Or does it mean stay attached to CP3 if he sets a screen?

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        • Smirkin Dirk
          All Star
          • Oct 2008
          • 5179

          #364
          Re: NBA 2K17 Defensive Settings Community Wiki

          Originally posted by BigL32
          I'm confused! What does the Stay Attached PnR setting mean? Does it mean if select "Stay Attached" for CP3 and Blake sets a screen, i'm just switching, or am I just going over, or double CP3. Or does it mean stay attached to CP3 if he sets a screen?
          It means your big will stay attached to Griffin and prevent the pick and pop.
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          • alabamarob
            MVP
            • Nov 2010
            • 3344

            #365
            Re: NBA 2K17 Defensive Settings Community Wiki

            I cant get the switch option to work versus the pnr. Anyone have any tips?
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            • Diceman7
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              • Sep 2016
              • 92

              #366
              Re: NBA 2K17 Defensive Settings Community Wiki

              Originally posted by alabamarob
              I cant get the switch option to work versus the pnr. Anyone have any tips?


              I believe there is an option called switch everything in the quick defensive menus. It might work.


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              • ThatMichiganFan
                Pro
                • Apr 2014
                • 801

                #367
                Re: NBA 2K17 Defensive Settings Community Wiki

                Originally posted by alabamarob
                I cant get the switch option to work versus the pnr. Anyone have any tips?


                It doesn't like to work when one defender is User controlled and one defender is CPU controlled. Make sure you have switch rules set to all. Try to jump the screen early, sometimes that can trick 2K into switching assignments.
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                • TkJay
                  Rookie
                  • Jan 2017
                  • 6

                  #368
                  Re: NBA 2K17 Defensive Settings Community Wiki

                  I get the settings but what I dont get is switch sometimes they do it, but most of the time they dont. I know you have to be off ball for it to work but if the CPU wants to score they will.

                  I just played a game where Reggie Jackson score 22 by the half cause the would not switch on the pick plays. However, when its and unfavorable matchup for you they will switch like kyrie on a center.

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                  • harryl
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 2663

                    #369
                    Re: NBA 2K17 Defensive Settings Community Wiki

                    You don't have to be off-ball for it to work. I've said it before in other threads, but I think *some* of the unreliability has to do with us players not showing, clearly enough, to the CPU's criteria, that we are going to switch when controlling one of the two defenders.

                    So if you control the big in defending a P&R, I find that one is more likely to get the switch correctly if one very obviously is playing for the switch...which means, basically, to hedge/show hard and step up. If you control the big and are too soft in the hedge, the CPU may try to take the ballhandler's defender and Go Over/Under.

                    Haven't tried it so much the other way, with the ballhandler's defender. But I imagine, one has to at least Go Under and be careful to very obviously decide to stick with the screener.

                    Which is not to say this results in high dependability of the switch action. It's still unreliable to a point that goes beyond a mis-play rate that is realistically mimicking real-life misplay.

                    Nonetheless, I think the secret to using Switch as effectively as possible is to be mindful of conveying to the CPU that one is going with the program.

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                    • harryl
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 2663

                      #370
                      Re: NBA 2K17 Defensive Settings Community Wiki

                      I think an issue can also be Hedge settings. If you think about it, there should be no hedge...But not No Hedge. Hard Hedge, if anything, but without recovery back to original man.

                      If I set hedging to Auto, Switching seems to work more reliably.

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                      • Smirkin Dirk
                        All Star
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 5179

                        #371
                        Re: NBA 2K17 Defensive Settings Community Wiki

                        Yeah no hedge will put the big back and I guess the CPU will think you have not switched.
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                        • JoFri
                          Pro
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 1486

                          #372
                          Re: NBA 2K17 Defensive Settings Community Wiki

                          Originally posted by Smirkin Dirk
                          Yeah no hedge will put the big back and I guess the CPU will think you have not switched.


                          I actually think "No Hedge" setting is not working correctly as CPU will react accordingly to the situation. It happens in 2K16 and 2K17.

                          For instance, I set "No Hedge" and I control the man guarding onball. Suppose I didnt manage to fight through the screen, my CPU defender big guarding the screen man will still hedge to help on the dribbler. When this happens, the weak side offball defender will run over to help in 2K16. In 2K17 if I set "No Help" at all, the weak side help does not come. However, my big on hedge is still happening.

                          Not sure how this will affect the issue in question. For info.


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                          • Smirkin Dirk
                            All Star
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 5179

                            #373
                            Re: NBA 2K17 Defensive Settings Community Wiki

                            Originally posted by JoFri
                            I actually think "No Hedge" setting is not working correctly as CPU will react accordingly to the situation. It happens in 2K16 and 2K17.

                            For instance, I set "No Hedge" and I control the man guarding onball. Suppose I didnt manage to fight through the screen, my CPU defender big guarding the screen man will still hedge to help on the dribbler. When this happens, the weak side offball defender will run over to help in 2K16. In 2K17 if I set "No Help" at all, the weak side help does not come. However, my big on hedge is still happening.

                            Not sure how this will affect the issue in question. For info.


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                            Do you mean when you end up going under the screen with your guard? Ive definitely seen that when Ive got it set to Go over/No hedge and I go under.

                            I think it's the CPU trying to compensate for our error.
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                            • JoFri
                              Pro
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 1486

                              #374
                              Re: NBA 2K17 Defensive Settings Community Wiki

                              Originally posted by Smirkin Dirk
                              Do you mean when you end up going under the screen with your guard? Ive definitely seen that when Ive got it set to Go over/No hedge and I go under.



                              I think it's the CPU trying to compensate for our error.


                              I mean fighting thru the screen by "going over" everytime.

                              You are right on the "help" my cpu big gave to stop the dribbler as a form to compensate my bad. The opponent big many times do set very good screen. This year, the dribbler can go the other way when I "cheat" the defense by shading to the side where I know where the screen is coming from. I like the way cpu defense is reacting, so we have to really pick our poise whether to hedge or not to hedge for specific players.


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                              • harryl
                                MVP
                                • Apr 2015
                                • 2663

                                #375
                                Re: NBA 2K17 Defensive Settings Community Wiki

                                Originally posted by Smirkin Dirk
                                I think it's the CPU trying to compensate for our error.
                                I think this is one of the key issues to keep in mind when trying to get Switch to work. If controlling the screener's defender, need to show hard. If controlling the ballhandler's defender, need to neither go over, nor under...or maybe just under the screener because you're going to defend him and prevent the roll or stay attached for the pop.

                                Last night I tried with Hedge settings all set to Auto and was mindful of how I reacted to the screen. Switch worked nicely, no matter which guy I was controlling.

                                Later on in the game, things started to break down and I started to wonder if the game forgets settings within the same game. Tried setting Defensvie PoE to Switch Everything in the in-game menu and I think I recall that helping me get back on track.

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